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Ash.J.Williams

jack presley wrote: »

How did the Colombia 3 get out of Colombia that time? Were there passports not taken when they were released?

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TheNap

Deleted User wrote: »

When I was in Ibzia the people offering drugs were neither young, pretty, nor girls.

Dont know what part you were in tbh , not saying you're wrong or anything . However, this year , each time there was a knock on my hotel it was a young pretty girl in her late teens or early twenties

kylith

Deleted User wrote: »

I must have had a look about me

It's probably because I went with a friend whose idea of a wild night out was some tapas, one vodka mule, and back to the hotel for an early night, and we stayed on the opposite side of the island to the clubs. I wouldn't have gone clubbing (good gracious, no!), but I'd have liked to get plastered once or twice.

Nodin

TheNap wrote: »

Dont know what part you were in tbh , not saying you're wrong or anything . However, this year , each time there was a knock on my hotel it was a young pretty girl in her late teens or early twenties

...maybe they tailor their delivery services to the tastes of their clientele....

Ice Storm

TheNap wrote: »

Been to Ibiza a lot over the last 5 years . Each time the people approaching you or knocking on your hotel door looking to sell you drugs are young ( pretty ) girls from the UK and Ireland . They've gone over for the summer and get a taste for the highlife . They make money while they are sunbathing by pools or walking on a beach . These 2 girls clearly got caught up in that and either ran up a debt of their own , or were naive enough to believe they would get away with it and it would be handy money . They have to leave with the consequences . Dont see why theres such a big deal being made of it .

No, I think the problem is that they can't leave. :pac:

blade1

DellyBelly wrote: »

I don't know why but I think they are telling the truth. I was a bit suspect at first but the more I read about this case the more I believe them. What an awful thing to happen them. There are some evil people in the world ready to take advantage of young innocent people. I really hope the judge weighs up the evidence and feels the same way and they can come back home.

Can I come and live in your world?

BKWDR

Originally Posted by TheNap
Dont know what part you were in tbh , not saying you're wrong or anything . However, this year , each time there was a knock on my hotel it was a young pretty girl in her late teens or early twenties

Nodin wrote: »

...maybe they tailor their delivery services to the tastes of their clientele....

I have travelled extensively around the globe and I never have been offered drugs as many times as when I stayed in the 'family friendly' part of Ibiza (Figueretas).
I was offered coke or ecstasy 3-4 times walking from the restaurant to the hotel. Pestered day and night and on the beach and in the hotel lobby (which i complained about to the rep but she kind of shrugged her shoulders). That's just my experience and why I wouldn't return to Ibiza, but it was everywhere!

pundy

BKWDR wrote: »

I have travelled extensively around the globe and I never have been offered drugs as many times as when I stayed in the 'family friendly' part of Ibiza (Figueretas).
I was offered coke or ecstasy 3-4 times walking from the restaurant to the hotel. Pestered day and night and on the beach and in the hotel lobby (which i complained about to the rep but she kind of shrugged her shoulders). That's just my experience and why I wouldn't return to Ibiza, but it was everywhere!

eh... figueretas is NOT a family friendly part of ibiza - it's the main beach that leads from the Ibiza Town centre right down to Playa D'en Bossa (which is the more upmarket San Antonio - older crowd, more expensive etc etc) but it's awash with drugs and people selling and buying.

BKWDR

pundy wrote: »

eh... figueretas is NOT a family friendly part of ibiza - it's the main beach that leads from the Ibiza Town centre right down to Playa D'en Bossa (which is the more upmarket San Antonio - older crowd, more expensive etc etc) but it's awash with drugs and people selling and buying.

That could be the aspect of why it was sold to me as 'family friendly'. But my point stands, without getting bogged down in Ibiza geography.

pundy

BKWDR wrote: »

That could be the aspect of why it was sold to me as 'family friendly'. But my point stands, without getting bogged down in Ibiza geography.

your point still stands yes.

i think weren't the girls in San Antonio? i've been to Ibiza a few times, and the first time i went i remember hearing horror stories about the drunks/druggies and all that, and then stayed in Playa D'en Bossa and there was no trouble - yes, you're asked if you want this or that, but a simple "no thanks" sufficed.

but yeah, i can see how they would have been roped into the dark side over that side of the island. seems to be a lot more crime and ex pat criminals over that side of the island.

donegal.

bumper234 wrote: »

But America (the united states) IS a country. Anywho back to the Peruvian issue of poor girls not getting foot massages or some ****

Do you actually think America is a country? sweet Jesus. What about Africa, is that a country too?

enda1

donegal. wrote: »

Do you actually think America is a country? sweet Jesus. What about Africa, is that a country too?

And are we supposed to call Mexico the United Mexican States? The UK becomes the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland?

Jesus, stop being so anal, it's common shorthand for the country.

DeanAustin

donegal. wrote: »

Do you actually think America is a country? sweet Jesus. What about Africa, is that a country too?

Didnt the post you quoted qualify that to say United States? Not being funny or anything.

OhHiMark

enda1 wrote: »

And are we supposed to call Mexico the United States of Mexico? The UK becomes the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland?

Jesus, stop being so anal, it's common shorthand for the country.

But when used in the context of the American Convention of Human Rights, it's a very important distinction.

kraggy

Slightly off topic but, what's Ibiza like? Is it full of young Irish and British scumbags?

Can someone in their 30s go clubbing or is it all youngsters?

Is it expensive?

Rightwing

kraggy wrote: »

Slightly off topic but, what's Ibiza like? Is it full of young Irish and British scumbags?

Can someone in their 30s go clubbing or is it all youngsters?

Is it expensive?

Nice island, like everywhere else, just depends on what part of it you go to, but you can def avoid the clubbers.

genericguy

DellyBelly wrote: »

I don't know why but I think they are telling the truth. I was a bit suspect at first but the more I read about this case the more I believe them. What an awful thing to happen them. There are some evil people in the world ready to take advantage of young innocent people. I really hope the judge weighs up the evidence and feels the same way and they can come back home.

Can I ask out of interest what it was that changed your mind?

Idbatterim

How the hell are they being charged with 11kg, when they were carrying 5.5 each? If someone else had been caught at the same time, would theirs have been added to the two girls total as well?!!!

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Idbatterim wrote: »

How the hell are they being charged with 11kg, when they were carrying 5.5 each? If someone else had been caught at the same time, would theirs have been added to the two girls total as well?!!!

This. I don't get it? Surely either one says yeah all 11 kgs were mine or they were split between the two of them.

onemorechance

It's probably because they both conspired to export 11kg.

DeanAustin

onemorechance wrote: »

It's probably because they both conspired to export 11kg.

Exactly. Not that hard to understand.

DellyBelly

genericguy wrote: »

Can I ask out of interest what it was that changed your mind?

The fact they haven't budged with their story over the last week. Really thought if they were guilty they would have cracked. I know this a little silly but they look so innocent in the photos. I think if I was a juror I'd find them not guilty. I may be wrong but got a feeling that I'm not

DeanAustin

DellyBelly wrote: »

The fact they haven't budged with their story over the last week. Really thought if they were guilty they would have cracked. I know this a little silly but they look so innocent in the photos. I think if I was a juror I'd find them not guilty. I may be wrong but got a feeling that I'm not

Jesus will be weeping for some time.

starWave

DellyBelly wrote: »

The fact they haven't budged with their story over the last week. Really thought if they were guilty they would have cracked. I know this a little silly but they look so innocent in the photos. I think if I was a juror I'd find them not guilty. I may be wrong but got a feeling that I'm not

We don't know the facts, but looking innocent is not a reason to believe anything. The evidence seems to be stacking up against them if anything. They haven't cracked because they still probably think they will be home in few weeks.

OhHiMark

DellyBelly wrote: »

The fact they haven't budged with their story over the last week. Really thought if they were guilty they would have cracked. I know this a little silly but they look so innocent in the photos. I think if I was a juror I'd find them not guilty. I may be wrong but got a feeling that I'm not

This is why cases get thrown out sometimes if they get too much media exposure. They look innocent so you'd find them not guilty?

EDIT: Not thrown out, retrial.

jack presley

DellyBelly wrote: »

The fact they haven't budged with their story over the last week. Really thought if they were guilty they would have cracked. I know this a little silly but they look so innocent in the photos. I think if I was a juror I'd find them not guilty. I may be wrong but got a feeling that I'm not

I hope if I'm ever on trial for anything, that you're on the jury.

Idbatterim

Originally Posted by onemorechance View Post
It's probably because they both conspired to export 11kg.
Exactly. Not that hard to understand.

well whoever set up the deal, bringing in just up to the limit each, to get a lower sentence in case they were caught, didnt do them any favours in the end!!!

hatrickpatrick

^ Unlike everyone else in this thread who would apparently be willing to find them guilty based solely on media reports without even hearing their or anyone else's testimony :rolleyes:

If anything I sincerely hope no AHer is ever on any jury that I have to stand before.

Idbatterim

In my opinion, they deserve some time regardless! they had opportunities to inform security or customs on multiple occasion! the fact they thought that risking smuggling drugs with the consequences was better than this option, shows their poor decision making skills, even IF they are telling the truth...

The fact they haven't budged with their story over the last week. Really thought if they were guilty they would have cracked. I know this a little silly but they look so innocent in the photos. I think if I was a juror I'd find them not guilty. I may be wrong but got a feeling that I'm not

I think it more like they are like rabbits caught in the headlamps! They are obviously knocked for six at what has happened...

Phoebas

Idbatterim wrote: »

How the hell are they being charged with 11kg, when they were carrying 5.5 each? If someone else had been caught at the same time, would theirs have been added to the two girls total as well?!!!

Has there been some confirmation that they've each been changed with the full 11kg?
I hadn't seen that being reported explicitly.

Norwesterner

allthedoyles wrote: »

• No food all day Tuesday
• Brother not allowed a visit
• Expected to lie on the floor
• sponge type bed - with no blankets
• Dirty conditions
• water

They simply said they didn't eat. That doesn't commute as being deprived of food.
Maybe they lost their appetite with the nerves of the Court case.
Why didn't the solicitor bring them in some food?

OhHiMark

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

^ Unlike everyone else in this thread who would apparently be willing to find them guilty based solely on media reports without even hearing their or anyone else's testimony :rolleyes:

If anything I sincerely hope no AHer is ever on any jury that I have to stand before.

I'm not saying they're guilty, but to say that you'd find them not guilty because they look innocent is frankly, stupid.

Phoebas

OhHiMark wrote: »

I'm not saying they're guilty, but to say that you'd find them not guilty because they look innocent is frankly, stupid.

Who said that?

Amirani

Phoebas wrote: »

Who said that?

Originally Posted by DellyBelly
"The fact they haven't budged with their story over the last week. Really thought if they were guilty they would have cracked. I know this a little silly but they look so innocent in the photos. I think if I was a juror I'd find them not guilty. I may be wrong but got a feeling that I'm not"

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=86125877&postcount=173

jack presley

Norwesterner wrote: »

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Why didn't the solicitor bring them in some food?

A cake with a file in it would be nice.

Toto Wolfcastle

They're expected in court soon. Sky News had a live feed but they were having issues so they've left it and they're trying to get it back.

onemorechance

Idbatterim wrote: »

well whoever set up the deal, bringing in just up to the limit each, to get a lower sentence in case they were caught, didnt do them any favours in the end!!!

I think that whoever was funding this deal cares only about the cocaine, and not one bit about the welfare of the girls.

keano2012

i'm curious what the auld colombians are thinking about this if they are not involved! getting there names thrown in there!

Idbatterim

They simply said they didn't eat. That doesn't commute as being deprived of food.

maybe Michaela just has one eye on the modelling career for when she's released... :rolleyes:

amdublin

Bobblehead Panda wrote: »

They're expected in court soon. Sky News had a live feed but they were having issues so they've left it and they're trying to get it back.

Why are they back in court? (I thought they were there already today)

Paramite Pie

Keno 92 wrote: »

Yeah, but....do they like Tayto?

Tayto is from Northern Ireland. FACT:P

So all you peeps who refuse to acknowledge Northerner's as Irish must consider Tayto to be British too if your gonna be consistant about it.;)

Norwesterner

Idbatterim wrote: »

How the hell are they being charged with 11kg, when they were carrying 5.5 each? If someone else had been caught at the same time, would theirs have been added to the two girls total as well?!!!

Their tickets were bought under the same reservation afaik.

Toto Wolfcastle

amdublin wrote: »

Why are they back in court? (I thought they were there already today)

No idea. I didn't catch the start of it.

Menas

DellyBelly wrote: »

The fact they haven't budged with their story over the last week. Really thought if they were guilty they would have cracked. I know this a little silly but they look so innocent in the photos. I think if I was a juror I'd find them not guilty. I may be wrong but got a feeling that I'm not

Aside from the 'looks innocent' remark...which has given me a nice wee giggle....Peru does not operate a jury system. It is three judges who preside over the trial from what I know.

Amirani

Paramite Pie wrote: »

Tayto is from Northern Ireland. FACT:P

So all you peeps who refuse to acknowledge Northerner's as Irish must consider Tayto to be British too if your gonna be consistant about it.;)

That's a different Tayto. Sorry about ruining your dig.

genericguy

DellyBelly wrote: »

The fact they haven't budged with their story over the last week. Really thought if they were guilty they would have cracked. I know this a little silly but they look so innocent in the photos. I think if I was a juror I'd find them not guilty. I may be wrong but got a feeling that I'm not

Oh, ok.

Roger_007

The fact that all this is happening in Peru is influencing opinion. If the exactly same thing occurred in Dublin or Cork, nobody would be getting too exercised about it. In fact it would hardly make the news. There is a 'nasty foreigner' prejudice in all this hype.

Fred Swanson

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The bushman

Live on sky now,but signal is bad

Idbatterim

The fact that all this is happening in Peru is influencing opinion. If the exactly same thing occurred in Dublin or Cork, nobody would be getting too exercised about it. In fact it would hardly make the news. There is a 'nasty foreigner' prejudice in all this hype.

To be honest, I dont think anything is being aimed at Peru, its the girls getting it from all angles...

Also I think the fact that Peru actually has what we would regard as a JUSTICE system, makes it more interesting! what would they get here a suspended sentence? 3 months? "Ahhh sure were all make mistakes" "Ah sure wasn't it her upbringing"...