Arcade machine for the house

chunkis

Some of the irish fighting game guys and i are coming together to buy some astro city arcade machines. Currently there are 4 machines for sale at 300 euros each.

If anybody is interested check out this thread

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057022373

o1s1n

Bargain!!!

TechnoFreek

Great price assuming the cabs are in reasonable shape especially the monitors.

kevin2me

Love one but dear lord see the way they are being shipped, Thats abuse

o1s1n

Worrying alright. Even the act of stacking them like that would have to result in some marks/scratches/cracks.

CosmicSmash

I wouldn't be putting a penny down without seeing more pictures, cab standing up and plugged in.

CathalDublin

Not trying to put a downer on this as I wouldn't mind throwing €300 down but I'd be worried about VAT, Customs clearance, terminal handling, ageny fee, security fee.
That €1400 shipping could soon rise to €2500 when you pay all the above, has anyone contacted the agent in Dublin that will receive the goods as its not like getting a package in the post, I've imported large parts from China, USA, japan before and you usually need to factor in €500-€1000 depending on alot of things.
That could bring the machines to €510+ each

unky chop chop

Chunkis, that is a good point...has all vat and custom taxes been factored into this dealio. I just presumed it had but get it contact with the dude that's receiving the goods at the port..or is that you? If so contact seller to see if he's sorted it.
Good luck man 300€ for a shipped Astro will be a dream come true.

Anyway another pic of mine with VF5 to get people tempted

horgan_p

I'm going to take a punt on this.
Early christmas present for myself (at least thats how I'll justify it to her indoors)

KeRbDoG

From that thread What would the import taxes be?

CathalDublin

The seller is going to find out who the agent is in Ireland and contact them on monday.

o1s1n

I still can't look at that photo without wincing.

o1s1n

o1s1n wrote: »

I still can't look at that photo without wincing.

seriously needs some retrobrite!

Myrddin

Ugh, the poor cabs! Fair play to whoever organised it etc, but that packing!

martineatworld

Hmmm, half thinking of having a punt on this. What are peoples opinions?

Are they easy to disassemble to get through a door or will there be complications?

o1s1n

Whether the bolts are rusted or not will play a big part in it

martineatworld

o1s1n wrote: »

Whether the bolts are rusted or not will play a big part in it

You're not filling me with confidence here...!

Andrew76

martineatworld wrote: »

You're not filling me with confidence here...!

Pyongyang got an NAC where the bolts were rusted so he had to drill them out before being able to open the cab up and get it indoors. Got new bolts for it. Actually that cab has since passed on to someone else afaik. I think the whole front comes off including control panel, almost like the cab is split in half when looking at it side on.

But that was just one experience, I'm sure other folks had no problem. Not as straight forward as an AWSD or E2/E3 where the control panel alone comes off - but no big deal I would say. Being able to open up it wouldn't be the issue that puts me off one at that price - not knowing the condition of the monitor would though.

o1s1n

Just make sure you have the tools to take bolts out handy for when it arrives (and some plastic sheets to cover the cab up)

The bottom of the control panel is connected to the molding of the cab - so you need to remove the whole bottom panel section at the front.

You can see the seams of it here on the side. See the way the bottom of the control panel curves down into the lower section on the front of the cab.



Two main things worrying me about this deal now -

The way they're stacked is going to have to damage them in some way
VAT and import duties have not been factored into the €300 price.

Worst case scenario, you end up with a cab that was damaged in transport (or had a wonky monitor to begin with) which after taxes, costs you the guts of one from Ronnie.

Best case scenario, you get a lovely NAC for a mere €300

chunkis

the good news on the shipping is that they will replace anything that is broken if machines arrive faulty. but yeah the customs charge is definitely something to consider, is it worth it? can people afford it if it adds an extra 100 euros or more on to the cost, i mean how badly do people want a machine you know? I am not even sure i want one now, but without people coming together nobody can afford to get one and we all miss out.

its going to be 33 days or more before the machines arrive so even if you had to pay 300 this week and then an extra 100 for customs it wouldn`t really break the bank, i mean for a machine your going to pay 500 or 600 straight up or more depending on condition and then for delivery your going to pay at least 250, so thats 850 before you even put boards in it, so for people who are serious about having a machine its definitely the best option, but yeah lots to consider, i guess ill know more tomorrow when i find out how much customs is going to cost.

o1s1n

An Astro from Ronnie will cost you on average €500. He'll take a million pictures for you though and show you what shape the screen geometry is in. So you know exactly what you'll be getting.

Here's his website. He can source so many different cab types. Bit of a waiting list for rarer ones.

http://www.rklok.nl/

Postage is €195. So you're talking €695 in total for a machine which will come tested and working right to your front door on a palette. No risk of VAT or anything as it's in the EU.

Postage takes 4-5 days.

I would imagine your ones will come in at €400 after the VAT. So you just need to ask yourself do you want to risk it, or pay an extra €295 to have a bit more security.

You want two right? I guess the margin of difference in the price really grows when you consider two machines.

CathalDublin

o1s1n wrote: »

The whole marking something down as a gift to avoid VAT is grand on smaller packages, I really don't think you're going to get away with it on a container of cabs though! That'd be some gift... :pac:

VAT for an item outside of the EU could be up to 23% (I think that's the figure, been a while since I checked). And that includes the postage fee as part of the calculation.

Dam right, Customs/the agency receiving the container in the port are not going to entertain 'Gift', they may even decide to value them themselves if you go that route, also if the container was rough loaded, got wet, etc there would be zero comeback.

From previous experience importing goods from China these are the figures I would expect
10% duty on total cost inc shipping.(based on €1900=€190)
23% vat on total cost inc shipping.(based on €1900=€437)
Then there is customs clearance (avg.€60), terminal handling (avg.€150), agent fee (€60-€100), Equipment handover/Bill of landing (€100).
So about an extra €1100 give or take which would bring the total cost to 2400 for 6 cabs or €500ea I also noticed there are 7 in the container
I wonder what else will be filling that container, imagining a big jeep rolling back and forth lol

I'm interested in this group buy but I think it may only work to bring in a full container of cabs of different values some of the higher more sought after stuff too.

o1s1n

I'd assumed they were stacked like that as more cabs were to go in too.

So the order is for 7 cabs, but they wouldn't put them all standing up? That seems really weird to me.

I can see it now, you open the container to get the cabs and 20 Chinese people run out :eek:

Dude111

Monkeykube wrote:

I wouldn't be putting a penny down without seeing more pictures, cab standing up and plugged in.

I agree.... We went down to the place where we bought my SUPER PACMAN arcade game and made sure it worked!!

sham69

o1s1n wrote: »

An Astro from Ronnie will cost you on average €500. He'll take a million pictures for you though and show you what shape the screen geometry is in. So you know exactly what you'll be getting.

Here's his website. He can source so many different cab types. Bit of a waiting list for rarer ones.

http://www.rklok.nl/

Postage is €195. So you're talking €695 in total for a machine which will come tested and working right to your front door on a palette. No risk of VAT or anything as it's in the EU.

Postage takes 4-5 days.

I would imagine your ones will come in at €400 after the VAT. So you just need to ask yourself do you want to risk it, or pay an extra €295 to have a bit more security.

You want two right? I guess the margin of difference in the price really grows when you consider two machines.

I always wanted one of these cabs and Ronnie seems to be the man to get them from.

Could we not organise a deal with Ronnie on the basis that we buy 6 or 7 cabs or whatever?

Even if the shipping was split surely it would save us some money with quality guaranteed.

Fair play to the OP for posting this but it does seem a tad risky.

+1 Ronnie!

o1s1n

I was talking to a guy before on AO who has an order for 7 cabs from Ronnie coming. Might be possible to cut a deal with him.

The only thing would be the wait time. I doubt he'd have 6 or 7 Astros ready to go at once. So you'll probably need to give him a bit of time to get them ready.

Optimus Prime

Initially i was going to go for this, but its too risky, too much unknown and the way they are stacked up, jaysus! if i ever was to get one, in a group buy on here, i wouldnt mind paying extra for peace of mind. If a arcade and retro group buy like this from ronnie ever comes up id be in.

sham69

o1s1n wrote: »

I was talking to a guy before on AO who has an order for 7 cabs from Ronnie coming. Might be possible to cut a deal with him.

The only thing would be the wait time. I doubt he'd have 6 or 7 Astros ready to go at once. So you'll probably need to give him a bit of time to get them ready.

More time for us (me) to save the money....
Sounds good.

o1s1n

Also more time to research into Japanese cabs and realize you want something rarer and far more expensive - trust me, just avoid doing this

Then you end up with this in your dining room

sham69

wouldnt bother me in the slightest...
The missus on the other hand

I only have 2 cabs at the moment and she hates them...

Ha ha
I sold one last night so down to 3,
what have you ?

sham69

I sold one a couple of months ago aswell.

I had got 2 mame full size cabs and a bartop that I am working on for my niece.
The bartop should be finished but I made a mess of spray painting the plexi for the bezel.

Waiting to find someone who can do it for me or alternatively I will go with posterboard behind the plexi.
Hope to finish it in a couple of weeks.

the main cab is a restored electrocoin xenon (its a beast of a cab), I just have it running mame and a few other emu's c64, sega , virtual pinball etc.
It needs a revamp aswell.

Optimus Prime

have a xenon myself, great cabs. spraying the plexi, im restoring a cocktail table and will at some stage have to think about either spraying the glass i get made or sticking a piece of card in behind it. what went wrong with the spraying? is it hard to do ?

sham69

ah I think it was me, I sprayed it too thick from the can.
Don't think I masked it well enough either, it was a complete mess.
When I did the Xenon I just did posterboard covered in vinyl and put it behind the glass.
Much simpler and looks ok.

Optimus Prime

ah grand, ive never sprayed glass before and there is a fair bit of masking to do on a cocktail table, plus ill have to pay to get the glass made so dont want to make a balls of it.

sham69

ah i'd say you will be grand.
Anything electronic wise I am great at but anything handy like wood or painting etc, not a hope.

The missus is the handyman in the house (as such)

CathalDublin

sham69 wrote: »

wouldnt bother me in the slightest...
The missus on the other hand

I only have 2 cabs at the moment and she hates them...

Wait until you start bringing home pinballs, all cabinets are small compared to them:eek:

Myrddin

CathalDublin wrote: »

Wait until you start bringing home pinballs, all cabinets are small compared to them:eek:

You've seen my 50" Gunblade cab right?

is the gunblade back to 100%?

CathalDublin

With the exception of the Mother Gunblade, that's the trick start off with one or 2 massive cabinets, Pinballs then soon your missus will be begging for a house of candies.

Myrddin

urbanledge wrote: »

is the gunblade back to 100%?

Needs a psu, got some from Mitch but they were all busted. Will have to buy a high amp generic cab psu & build a wiring loom to connect it to the Model 2 harness as I don't want to cut off the existing connectors. Like everything, I'll get to it eventually

Dude111

sham69 wrote:

I had got 2 mame full size cabs and a bartop that I am working on for my niece.

I think it would be K-RAD to have mame in a stand up cabinet! (I love early 80s games and having them all IN A CAB would be cool!)

unky chop chop

EnterNow wrote: »

Needs a psu, got some from Mitch but they were all busted. Will have to buy a high amp generic cab psu & build a wiring loom to connect it to the Model 2 harness as I don't want to cut off the existing connectors. Like everything, I'll get to it eventually

http://www.videotronicsuk.com/, cheap as if I remember and recieved in 2 days.

Can't see any on his site now but mail him mo@videotronicsuk.com.
Great little site actually with loads of bits and bobs

Think model 3 psu has the exact same connectors anyway.

Actually a lad called LoRez on AO offered me one for 25 quid inc shipping,hit him up as well

CathalDublin

chunkis wrote: »

that shipping price is only fixed until next Wednesday, i guess after then its too late to get our cabs on that particular boat, so new transport needs to be arranged, i am happy with the price and i don`t care about it going down, but i definitely don`t want it to go up, so want to buy these machines before/on Wednesday, so on mon/tues ill pm the people who are definite and arrange payment details.

I think this ship has sailed!

A full container 40foot
4 cabs wide by 20long could work

http://forum.arcadeotaku.com/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=25241

Nice stacking

o1s1n

Looking at the stacking/wood used, it seems to be the same guys (if not very similar) to the place the OP is getting his.

sham69

CathalDublin wrote: »

Wait until you start bringing home pinballs, all cabinets are small compared to them:eek:

I'd love a pinball machine, a candy, a dedciated driving cab and I think I would be happy then...

Ok maybe a dedicated shooting game, point blank or one of those.

I have 2 shooters for my mame cab but too lazy to connect them up.
They're 2 guncon pistols that I modified with the aimtraks.

Never got them calibarated properly , might give it a go this weekend.

o1s1n

sham69 wrote: »

I'd love a pinball machine, a candy, a dedciated driving cab and I think I would be happy then...

Ok maybe a dedicated shooting game, point blank or one of those.

I have 2 shooters for my mame cab but too lazy to connect them up.
They're 2 guncon pistols that I modified with the aimtraks.

Never got them calibarated properly , might give it a go this weekend.

Isn't it funny how 'the dream' changes when you start actually getting cabs?

Originally I wanted a woody cab. Just the one, then I'll be happy. - bought one, was delighted, then discovered Japanese candy cabs.

So bought one of them, loved it - oh no! how do I play vertical games?

Second candy arrives...fantastic...but now I'm looking at dedicated shooters thinking to myself 'dare I?'

Never bloody happy!

chunkis

Can you link me to that image or copy and paste it, because i can`t view it, cheers