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CBT would it be effective for somebody with the following kind of anxiety issues

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  • 24-08-2013 5:05pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 7


    What is your opinion of CBT cognitive behaviour therapy as a therapy for people with a lot of anxiety issues ? I'm talking for somebody who has agoraphobia for past 5 years, is panicky nervous a lot, has health anxiety, worries about getting a serious illness, or having a serious illness, has obsessions compulsions, feels need to repeat certain sentences ritualistically at times to in their mind prevent something dreadful from happening !

    Do you think CBT would be an effective type of therapy for such a person ? thanks


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,735 ✭✭✭dar100


    Yes, most definitely, it would be the best therapy for these issues by far


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭JuliusCaesar


    Here's a list of some of the disorders for which CBT is proven to work well for. Lots and lots of studies on the effectiveness of CBT if you do a Google/Google Scholar search.


  • Registered Users Posts: 64 ✭✭sam30


    It can be effective but my advice would be to find a clinical psychologist who can do a proper formulation around the difficulties and determine best course of therapeutic intervention based on that formulation rather than going to someone who will do CBT as if reading from a manual whether it is appropriate or not.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭JuliusCaesar


    sam30 wrote: »
    It can be effective but my advice would be to find a clinical psychologist who can do a proper formulation around the difficulties and determine best course of therapeutic intervention based on that formulation rather than going to someone who will do CBT as if reading from a manual whether it is appropriate or not.

    May I point you at the How To Find A Therapist sticky.


  • Registered Users Posts: 64 ✭✭sam30


    Sorry Julius C, I don't understand what you mean?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭JuliusCaesar


    Information about CBT training, and the accreditation of CBT therapists. Of course, as we know, there's nothing to stop untrained, badly trained, half-trained people claiming to be CBT therapists, or to be capable of delivering CBT.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25 singsong321


    Yes, it is extremely effective!! Cognitive behavioral therapy is tailored to people who suffer from both anxiety and depression. :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,856 ✭✭✭Valmont


    Assuming we are talking about people who want to improve, wouldn't CBT always be appropriate, no matter what the issue?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,735 ✭✭✭dar100


    Valmont wrote: »
    Assuming we are talking about people who want to improve, wouldn't CBT always be appropriate, no matter what the issue?

    I'm sure there may be a case for your point Valmont, but I wonder how much the persons personality variables would impact upon the CBT approach been effective.


  • Registered Users Posts: 239 ✭✭rustopher


    That's a good point, I am interested in this area and was wondering if I could base my 4th year social care dissertation on it but then I suppose I would prob need a qualification in CBT? maybe something similar then?? Any suggestions??


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭JuliusCaesar


    rustopher wrote: »
    That's a good point, I am interested in this area and was wondering if I could base my 4th year social care dissertation on it but then I suppose I would prob need a qualification in CBT? maybe something similar then?? Any suggestions??

    I'm not sure what your question is. Could you clarify?


  • Registered Users Posts: 37 Molecule


    Valmont wrote: »
    Assuming we are talking about people who want to improve, wouldn't CBT always be appropriate, no matter what the issue?

    Nope, CBT isn't always the most appropriate form of therapy. This may be due to the particular presenting issue (e.g. borderline personality disorder, where Dialectical Behavioural Therapy appears to show the best results), or to the individual personality or needs of the client. Some people may resist the very structured, manualised, homework-based nature of CBT, and so the therapy may have to be adapted to take account of what is likely to be more effective for them or a different approach used, such as psychodynamic, schema therapy, EFT, mindfulness etc. Also, some people may say that they want to improve but when it comes to it, they're just not at that point yet and may need more general, supportive input to start with. I've also met a fair few Clinical Psychologists who would argue that they find approaches such as psychodynamic or schema therapy to be more effective, particularly in complex cases. CBT is often presented as a catch-all miracle cure but as with anything, one size does not fit all.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭JuliusCaesar


    CBT is not a monolithic type of therapy - it encompasses DBT, Mindfulness, Compassion-focussed, ACT, and numerous other varieties of CBT. In fact, the school might be thought of as 'evidence based therapies' rather than CBT. If you check out the SIGs on the webpage of the BABCP, you might be a little surprised.


  • Registered Users Posts: 37 Molecule


    CBT is not a monolithic type of therapy - it encompasses DBT, Mindfulness, Compassion-focussed, ACT, and numerous other varieties of CBT. In fact, the school might be thought of as 'evidence based therapies' rather than CBT. If you check out the SIGs on the webpage of the BABCP, you might be a little surprised.

    Was this for me? I'm well versed in the different CBT-related or derived therapies. My post above related to what I suppose you could call 'pure' CBT. I speak from the experience of having had many referrals from CBT nurses after CBT failed to work. I feel that one of our biggest strengths as CPs is the ability to adapt our therapeutic approach based on evidence but also on individual need and suitability. And after all, doesn't most of the research show that it's the quality of the therapeutic relationship rather than the specific therapeutic technique that is the most effective element of psychotherapy?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭JuliusCaesar


    Molecule wrote: »
    And after all, doesn't most of the research show that it's the quality of the therapeutic relationship rather than the specific therapeutic technique that is the most effective element of psychotherapy?

    It's necessary, but not sufficient.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,735 ✭✭✭dar100




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