McDonalds Templebar

KTRIC

Just noticed the sign up on the building in Temple Bar Square over the weekend. It was some steak house at some stage but judging by the current fit out it looks like its going to be a nicely finished Mc Donalds.

I'm in two minds over it, on the one hand I think its a nice looking Mc Donalds, which we have very few of and on the other hand I'm annoyed thats its going to take pride of place in the center of Templebar.

What do you guys think ?

OU812

They can pay the rent, steakhouse can't. As long as there's no neon, discrete signage (haven't seen it) & they keep outside the place clean, I've no problem with it.

Slunk

On one hand its another multi national ruining the city and on the other its temple bar, its a bit of a Kip anyway. Just be nothing left for the tourists but rip off pubs.

Whatsernamex33

Are they still planning to take up the cobblestones in Temple Bar? Just out of curiosity. :pac:

It'll do good business on the weekends though.. I'm assuming it'll be 24 hours.

KeithTS

It's been a long long time since Templebar has been the nice little cultural hotspot of quirky record stores and small independent shops and whatnot so although I'm against the idea of a McD's in Templebar my rational and reasoning behind those feelings is outdated and harks back to a time yonder.

They're gonna make an absolute mint too. Also long gone are the days of stumbling over to Grafton street for a burger or into Charlies for a feast after a tipple.

Get Real

I fully understand people being against a McDonald's in a cultural area. For example there are numerous places in Ireland I would oppose one being placed in. And not just McDonald's but any of those places. I find the placement of a Supermacs on Inis Mor slightly off putting.

But although Temple Bar is designated as a cultural area, I don't think it is. McDonald's will have no adverse impact in a cultural/ astethic sense. There is already a Supermacs, Abrakebabra, Hard Rock cafe, TGI fridays and guys in red jackets that walk around promoting a casino/ exotic dance club.

These outlets/ activities listed above are no different. All have numerous outlets, all cook frozen food, buy in pre packaged and pre prepared goods. Don't see the big deal. There's a Tesco in Temple Bar too. That's a MNC, which uses intensive chicken farming, sells cheap pastries, raises pigs indoors (not for all their products of course)

But it just means-Those that are opposed to it, then you must remain consistent in your logic and get rid of all the other establishments too. Only have independent, local food places.

It'll be closing at 12 anyway, so the mayhem, disorder, screaming, puking and littering in the early hours will still be confined to supermac's, abrakebabra, and mostly just the streets of the area. As has always been:rolleyes:

smellmepower

PP was for opening hours of 7.30am-midnight apparently.Signage looks alright,considering it's McDonalds.

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The approval was discussed here last year - http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056336149

Jesus Wept

Temple bar is a kip, thus, I don't really understand the concern.

hfallada

Finally there is somewhere affordable to eat even if it is McDonald's. They are one of the biggest, if not the biggest buyers of irish meat. A third of all mcdonalds burgers in europe come from ireland.

I hope they don't put a Starbucks in temple bar next. That is a step to far.

Honey-ec

hfallada wrote: »

I hope they don't put a Starbucks in temple bar next. That is a step to far.

Mr.S wrote: »

Why? I'd say they would make a killing if they put one there!

There already is one, on the corner of College Green and Anglesea St.

smellmepower

Andy Carroll wrote: »

Temple bar is a kip, thus, I don't really understand the concern.

Ah the IFI is nice,some of the markets are good too.

vicwatson

Andy Carroll wrote: »

Temple bar is a kip, thus, I don't really understand the concern.

Actually y'know Temple Bar is quite a nice area of Dublin, real nice character of some building, nice pubs and restaurants -

IT'S THE PEOPLE THAT VISIT TEMPLE BAR THAT MAKE IT A KIP !!!!

Lux23

I'm not bothered really, I mean isn't there a Hard Rock Cafe and a Supermacs? What's the difference really?

Basq

Lux23 wrote: »

I'm not bothered really, I mean isn't there a Hard Rock Cafe and a Supermacs? What's the difference really?

About €10 difference between a burger in both!

carlmango11

Temple Bar really isn't a kip. I'm curious what people are comparing it to to come to that conclusion. Henry Street? O'Connell Street?

It's a nice cobblestoned set of streets with a modest square, interesting shops/galleries, pubs. It has markets, the IFI, a nice atmosphere. I mean it's not claiming to be the greatest place in the world but it's hardly a kip.

L1011

I have no idea what idealised city centre people are comparing us to - Dublin's no different to any other city. Main street in Amsterdam is the tackiest, fast food and tat shop laden street you're going to find in the western world. Paris sort-of protects the Champs Elysees but there's still a McDonalds.

Cienciano

In fairness, if you're unfortunate enough to spend time drinking in Temple Bar, you at least deserve somewhere cheap to get food.

smellmepower

If someone is stupid enough to pay the extortionate drink prices in most Temple Bar pubs,then they are probably stupid enough to pay McDonalds to eat their version of food!

power pants

I very rarely eat macdonalds maybe once or twice a year but when I do I really enjoy their big macs.

Zaph

I just feel sorry for anyone who ends up working there. It's irrelevant that it'll be closing relatively early, it'll still be an absolute zoo, particularly at the weekends.

Ravelleman

Zaph wrote: »

I just feel sorry for anyone who ends up working there. It's irrelevant that it'll be closing relatively early, it'll still be an absolute zoo, particularly at the weekends.

No more so than any other purveyor of fast food in the city centre.

JupiterKid

When is it due to actually open?

Get Real

Zaph wrote: »

I just feel sorry for anyone who ends up working there. It's irrelevant that it'll be closing relatively early, it'll still be an absolute zoo, particularly at the weekends.

Used to work there during college, wouldn't feel sorry at all. Night rate is 15 per hour, sunday pay the same. Proper paid breaks and paid taxis after night shift. One of the best employers in that industry.

My friend in college worked in a very well known, upper class, dublin hotel. Minimum wage, no paid breaks, no sunday pay, finishing at midnight and being in at 6 the next day. Worse than the standards at mcdonalds. Because of the employment situation there are many graduates working there, i know of an engineer, gynacologist and a girl straight out of medicine.

Save your pity for those working in the pubs in temple bar.

liffeylite

I think Temple Bar gets a bad rep sometimes. Sure there are some over priced pubs there, but there are some great pubs and bars too - Vintage cocktail club, button factory, mezz, Sin, the Garage, bison Bar, Gypsy Rose, Liquer rooms, Thomas reads, porterhouse etc etc

Add to that all of the restaurants and there are still plenty of independent stores there. Love the one that sells the retro football shirts and there are plenty of vintage stores and cool cafes in the area. Not to mention the Art house cinema, the meeting squares, the markets and the galleries and the newish IBAT college.

Dublin would miss Temple Bar if it wasn't there, there is something there for everyone.

As far as Mcdonalds is concerned, shame its a fast food place rather than another independent in the area, but they will do well, make money and create jobs. I wouldn't imagine the 11:30pm curfew will last too long...foot in the door for Mcdonalds as far as I am concerned

ErnestGravy

There's a Supermacs in TB already so no point in objecting to a McDonalds.

January

Thought the Supermacs was on Westmoreland St? Technically not Temple Bar, right?

BonkeyDonker

January wrote: »

Thought the Supermacs was on Westmoreland St? Technically not Temple Bar, right?

There is another one in Temple Bar - on Fleet Street.

Cathmandooo

January wrote: »

Thought the Supermacs was on Westmoreland St? Technically not Temple Bar, right?

Westmoreland Street supermacs is gone, if I remember correctly!

January

Cathmandooo wrote: »

Westmoreland Street supermacs is gone, if I remember correctly!

Shows you when the last time I was in the City Centre was!

Cathmandooo

Oh no I may be thinking of abrakebabra!