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Sean O'Rourke Today Show

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,822 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Yes that's fair enough, but people are generally not stupid Brendan. If they're going to loan sharks they probably have no other choice, and it's a bit naïve suggesting they trot up to the credit union. That's all I'm saying. The credit union is now just as risk-averse as the banks are, and it follows very strict lending criteria.

    If someone just wants a breather for themselves and their family, I don't really blame them for going to a moneylender, risky and expensive as that this.

    Eeeey........ I think that about says it all.

    We’ll leave it at that. No point in going any further here.

    Thanks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 667 ✭✭✭lola85


    Miriam is one if the worst presenters on the radio.

    Pushing the minister to compromise in the backstop this morning basically blaming a no deal on Ireland.

    Reading questions from a script.

    She is clueless.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70,731 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    lola85 wrote: »
    Miriam is one if the worst presenters on the radio.

    Pushing the minister to compromise in the backstop this morning basically blaming a no deal on Ireland.

    Reading questions from a script.

    She is clueless.

    In fairness - as an impartial journalist that is her job. Devil's advocate.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 667 ✭✭✭lola85


    In fairness - as an impartial journalist that is her job. Devil's advocate.

    But she was anything but impartial??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70,731 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    lola85 wrote: »
    But she was anything but impartial??

    She took the other view...as devil's advocate. Kenny and any decent journalist does that all the time. In Kenny's case you wouldn't know what his personal politics was = a good journalist imo.

    Miriam isn't at that level, but she was doing the exact same thing here.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 667 ✭✭✭lola85


    She took the other view...as devil's advocate. Kenny and any decent journalist does that all the time. In Kenny's case you wouldn't know what his personal politics was = a good journalist imo.

    Miriam isn't at that level, but she was doing the exact same thing here.

    She was making out it’s the Irish governments fault we are heading for a no deal Brexit.

    That is not impartial, that is expressing her opinion which no one else except the British believe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70,731 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    lola85 wrote: »
    She was making out it’s the Irish governments fault we are heading for a no deal Brexit.

    That is not impartial, that is expressing her opinion which no one else except the British believe.

    Clue = she was playing devil's advocate...taking the other side?


  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    lola85 wrote: »
    She was making out it’s the Irish governments fault we are heading for a no deal Brexit.

    That is not impartial, that is expressing her opinion which no one else except the British believe.
    But surely Lola her job is to robustly examine elected public representatives. In doing so, she's not expressing a personal opinion. Their claims stand or falls based on merit, which must be tested.

    I just remembered something MO'C said in an interview, years ago, maybe in her conversation with Tony Benn (if you Google it, it should be available online). She said that the mark of a good journalist is to ask the toughest and most challenging questions.

    I personally find Sean O'Rourke's style of interviewing a little... Chummy? A bit like George Hook barking and snarling like a drunk terrier, but you know he only has the bite of a sleepy kitten. Tickle his belly or dangle the string of a Connaught Final before his eyes, and he starts mewing.

    Say something nostalgic about The Irish Press and you can almost imagine him purring.

    O'Callaghan s a qualified solicitor, and she probably would have made a formidable yet sympathetic lawyer. I'm not saying that as a particular fan of hers, by the way: Miriam Meets was a crime against television, and maybe there are better candidates to replace Sean O'Rourke. Such as Audrey Carville or Bryan Dobson.

    Anyway, the bottom line is that Miriam O Callaghan is currently showing-up some serious defecits in the Seán O'Rourke show and his ability to cover all of the various topics required of a magazine format.

    I'd say he'd only love being put out to pasture doing reports from Leinster Club Football Championship or the Walsh Cup for Saturday Sport, anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,420 ✭✭✭✭sligojoek


    She gave Geoffrey Donaldson an easy ride. A new question after every monosyllabic answer he gave


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 667 ✭✭✭lola85


    sligojoek wrote: »
    She gave Geoffrey Donaldson an easy ride. A new question after every monosyllabic answer he gave

    Exactly my point.

    Was reading from a script and has no tact abut Brexit.

    Donaldson knew this and played her like a fiddle.

    She is stealing a living.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    sligojoek wrote: »
    She gave Geoffrey Donaldson an easy ride. A new question after every monosyllabic answer he gave
    Perhaps she thought she was talking to Daniel O Donnell . Easy mistake to make !;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,726 ✭✭✭An Claidheamh


    lola85 wrote: »
    Exactly my point.

    Was reading from a script and has no tact abut Brexit.

    Donaldson knew this and played her like a fiddle.

    She is stealing a living.


    Miriam is always very cushy with the unionists.

    Anytime she has a Shinners on it's a different story - she uses emotive language and brings up the Provos, etc.

    Let's not forget, Miriam worked for years for Maggie Thatcher's BBC, is a Fianna Fáiler through and through and us out of her depth, genuinely.

    Martin McGuinness was right to call her out as fraud.

    We should get Bosco to interview the Dee Ewe Pay next time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 667 ✭✭✭lola85


    Miriam is always very cushy with the unionists.

    Anytime she has a Shinners on it's a different story - she uses emotive language and brings up the Provos, etc.

    Let's not forget, Miriam worked for years for Maggie Thatcher's BBC, is a Fianna Fáiler through and through and us out of her depth, genuinely.

    Martin McGuinness was right to call her out as fraud.

    We should get Bosco to interview the Dee Ewe Pay next time.

    Never knew any of this.

    Cheers.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    Miriam is RTE Royalty . You are commanded to ; Adulate her , serfs !


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,331 ✭✭✭jeremyj1968


    This is a great oul row. Fair play to this lad for getting stuck into the journalist.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    This is a great oul row. Fair play to this lad for getting stuck into the journalist.

    Who was it?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,331 ✭✭✭jeremyj1968


    Who was it?

    Some British journalist and Dearbhail Mcdonald


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,745 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Given the amount of rubbish produced by the Irish Independent on a daily basis, you'd think Dearbhail would be a bit more cautious with her criticism of other newspapers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70,731 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Who was it?

    Brendan (my family are peasant stock) O'Neill editor of Spiked and a fervent brexiteer, Dearbhail O'Donnell and Roy Greenslade. Media commemtator and contributor the The Guardian.

    O'Neill continues to provide the laughs.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    Brendan (my family are peasant stock) O'Neill editor of Spiked and a fervent brexiteer, Dearbhail O'Donnell and Roy Greenslade. Media commemtator and contributor the The Guardian.

    O'Neill continues to provide the laughs.
    Apparently peasant stock makes good soup .;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,420 ✭✭✭✭sligojoek


    Jesus the irony of RTE not having a spokesperson to discuss the licence.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    sligojoek wrote: »
    Jesus the irony of RTE not having a spokesperson to discuss the licence.
    They are a law unto themselves :eek:


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,331 ✭✭✭jeremyj1968


    sligojoek wrote: »
    Jesus the irony of RTE not having a spokesperson to discuss the licence.

    The truth of it is that RTE realise that nobody is watching their content any more, so they want to charge everybody for viewing stuff on the Internet, with the fake pretense that they are charging people for RTE Internet based services.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,331 ✭✭✭jeremyj1968


    I'm only waiting for one of the contributors to state that "it's a disgrace that RTE could not provider a spokeperson today" just to complete the whole ridiculousness of the entire situation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,570 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    Before Michael Healy Rae started speaking I was able to come up with each point he was going to make. He's nothing if not on brand...

    That point re post offices closing irks me, if they are not profitable is there a real need to have as many as there are?

    Local one by me closed a few months ago and there was a few protests. The next nearest post offices are about a 5-10 minute walk in 3 different directions...


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,331 ✭✭✭jeremyj1968


    Nobody has a problem paying for public service broadcasting, it's the excesses that p1ss people off. And the bias. Duffy on 400K a year to answer the phones, ridiculous.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,331 ✭✭✭jeremyj1968


    Does Larry Bass not get work from RTE. Why is he on here, to make sure that he has work in the future?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,331 ✭✭✭jeremyj1968


    Remember the last time this yank was on. "It will be finished in April, hopefully". Finished in August. f**king clown.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,741 ✭✭✭withless


    Is Miriam's voice more annoying on radio? To this listener, the answer is yes.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,799 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    withless wrote: »
    Is Miriam's voice more annoying on radio? To this listener, the answer is yes.

    Definitely.

    Her lisp is much more noticeable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,822 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    Definitely.

    Her lisp is much more noticeable.

    Lisp...what lisp......it’s accent dude.

    “Moye ghasts tudhaay are....”

    Speaks through her ‘ naaause’ bro.

    It’s the auld accent man... the ‘u’ becomes ‘a’ as ‘ Mooy gass is’ as opposed to ‘My guess is’

    Where the fuuerkhe are you getting lisp from, padre.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,420 ✭✭✭✭sligojoek


    "As Braaaaxit comes hurtling down the tracks"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,799 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    Lisp...what lisp......it’s accent dude.

    “Moye ghasts tudhaay are....”

    Speaks through her ‘ naaause’ bro.

    It’s the auld accent man... the ‘u’ becomes ‘a’ as ‘ Mooy gass is’ as opposed to ‘My guess is’

    Where the fuuerkhe are you getting lisp from, padre.

    There's a lisp there definitely.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,420 ✭✭✭✭sligojoek


    Nice one Miriam.

    As soon as a bit of a debate starts she shuts it down and goes to Tony Connolly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,822 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    There's a lisp there definitely.

    Aah Padd, can’t risk another trimming down on this platform after yesterday.

    If you say there’s a lisp, then there must be a lisp.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,020 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    I refuse to listen to silly season radio here anymore. As if anyone cares what I think lol.

    We have plummy Miriam sitting in for SOR, or bombastic (to me), Jonathon Healy.

    Nope.

    LBC radio is great for the hiatus. Kind of an upgraded Joe Duffy thing, with good presenters, giving us a view on Brexit and other things from across the pond.

    Addictive if they have topics you are interested in!

    I will still tune in to LBC, even when the dinosaurs here return.

    Has SOR retired yet?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,293 ✭✭✭pinkyeye


    The irony of people complaining about the licence fee whilst listening to RTE.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,822 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    I refuse to listen to silly season radio here anymore. As if anyone cares what I think lol.

    We have plummy Miriam sitting in for SOR, or bombastic (to me), Jonathon Healy.

    Nope.

    LBC radio is great for the hiatus. Kind of an upgraded Joe Duffy thing, with good presenters, giving us a view on Brexit and other things from across the pond.

    Addictive if they have topics you are interested in!

    I will still tune in to LBC, even when the dinosaurs here return.

    Has SOR retired yet?

    Good good... you don’t mind bad grammar, lack of knowledge about anything,and a diet of Love Island.........ooooooookay:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70,731 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    sligojoek wrote: »
    Nice one Miriam.

    As soon as a bit of a debate starts she shuts it down and goes to Tony Connolly.

    In terms of Brexit, Connelly is the best journalist in Europe, so no complaints from here. Succinct and impartial facts, delivered clearly and without sensation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,420 ✭✭✭✭sligojoek


    sligojoek wrote: »
    Nice one Miriam.

    As soon as a bit of a debate starts she shuts it down and goes to Tony Connolly.

    In terms of Brexit, Connelly is the best journalist in Europe, so no complaints from here. Succinct and impartial facts, delivered clearly and without sensation.
    I appreciate that. But just as the debate was up and running she just swatted them off like flies.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,020 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Good good... you don’t mind bad grammar, lack of knowledge about anything,and a diet of Love Island.........ooooooookay:rolleyes:

    WHAT? care to enlighten me on your post :P

    Not being too serious here either, all good, it is the holliers season!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,822 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    WHAT? care to enlighten me on your post :P

    Not being too serious here either, all good, it is the holliers season!

    My apologies I was more referring to stations other than RTE not LBC in particular or the BBC , more the local commercial ones.

    LBC is indeed an excellent station.


  • Registered Users Posts: 832 ✭✭✭Nevin Parsnipp


    LBC ?where do I get that ...got so annoyed listening to "Thonk you sow muuch" Meeeriam that i nearly flung the faithfull Roberts DAB out the (unopened) window.

    Was a close call ......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,739 ✭✭✭serfboard


    got so annoyed listening to ... Meeeriam that i nearly flung the faithfull Roberts DAB out the (unopened) window.
    Since you're a fan of Roberts, get yourself a Roberts internet radio and you'll never have to listen to Miriam again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14 John the anorak


    I guess it's certain that Miriam will take over Today permanently when SOR retires next year.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,168 ✭✭✭Ursus Horribilis


    I hope you're wrong but it certainly looks like it. Do any other stand-ins get their own branding when they're on air? "Today with Miriam" Here's hoping Pat Kenny doesn't retire soon - I'll be moving the dial permanently to Newstalk at that time of the day instead of switching between him and Sean O'Rourke.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 199 ✭✭Conor84


    With everything (media reports, interviews, long holidays) pointing to Sean O'Rourke's imminent retirement it would have been much better if RTE had given various contenders a week each or something to cover his Summer break rather than genuinely assigning Miriam for the duration.

    I think she is good enough on TV but on radio she jars. Voice is so important and 2 hours of Mo'C can be painful on the ears just as would be the case say with Philip Boucher Hayes (good lawrd). In some of the interviews I've heard she is obviously reading from a list of questions and doesn't have the ability to engage. Her over emotion can be counter producative and her almost cannonisation of Margaret Cash (lastyear??) was painful especially with her breathless interview in a hotel room.

    I would have liked to hear Bryan Dobson in the slot but think he might have faced similar issues to Miriam O'Callaghan although he is pretty excellent on Morning Ireland. It would have been interesting to hear Rachel English in the slot as I think she is a very good presenter and ger interests appear to go beyond current affairs - she has very good and genuine interactions on sports for example whereas with others it seems forced. Maybe Audrey Carville too.

    I think undortunately Miriam will get the gig but I think that would be a bad and lazy decision. I do think it will be a female presenter so would hope they would look at Claire Byrne. i rate her much more than MMOC and think she is more genuine, genuinely than Miriam. She has a more pleasing voice. I think although current affairs are her forte she would be much better able ro mix it with the lighter topics.


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    Conor84 wrote: »

    I do think it will be a female presenter so would hope they would look at Claire Byrne. i rate her much more than MMOC and think she is more genuine, genuinely than Miriam. She has a more pleasing voice. I think although current affairs are her forte she would be much better able ro mix it with the lighter topics.

    Totally agree with this


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,420 ✭✭✭✭sligojoek


    Conor84 wrote: »
    I do think it will be a female presenter so would hope they would look at Claire Byrne. i rate her much more than MMOC and think she is more genuine, genuinely than Miriam. She has a more pleasing voice. I think although current affairs are her forte she would be much better able ro mix it with the lighter topics.

    Mary Mitchel O Connor??


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