Sean O'Rourke Today Show

HeidiHeidi

Oops69 wrote: »

How's about a double helping of Gaa banter with the sports presenter .

I've given up on them all.

The soothing tones of Lorcan Murray it is for me, until I hear that something approaching normal service has resumed.

(although that GAA match does seem to have been quite the event in fairness )

Oops69

"American football has been plagued by court cases about head injury" says the sports presenter , whatever about the players who suffer the consequences of head injury? , appalling' commentary ' by a 'sports journalist '
RTE needs t set up an RTE sports channel so muppets like this can waffle on without bothering normal people.

God I'm grumpy today , It wouldn't be the first Monday in January by any chance ?

neris

paddy in his element again today with the homeless lads, though sounded like one guy was getting a bit aggro with him over the interviews

Callan57

The more money we throw at Health the worse the outcome seems to be! Clearly money is not the issue

touts

Callan57 wrote: »

The more money we throw at Health the worse the outcome seems to be! Clearly money is not the issue

I didn't hear a single argument today that has not been trotted out a million times. The problem is the whole health service is dysfunctional and designed to keep backroom staff (managers, accountants, pharmacists, electricians, cooks, etc) in jobs at the expense of the patient and the frontline staff. It has been like this for years and I'd say we could pull up a segment a week for the entire history of the show where almost identical problems in the health service were discussed.

neris

Callan57 wrote: »

The more money we throw at Health the worse the outcome seems to be! Clearly money is not the issue

worryingly the unions are very vocal in wanting more staff in hospitals lately. more staff equals more money going to health and the same ques/bed block and mayhem. Try to cut the unneeded clerical staff and more unions go in to uproar. The unions have to much say in how our health system is run and managed and until that stops all the money been fecked at health wont make it an easier job for any health minister. Harney was screwed, reilly was screwed, leos screwed and who ever takes over after leo is screwed unless some serious reform and changes happen

Callan57

neris wrote: »

worryingly the unions are very vocal in wanting more staff in hospitals lately. more staff equals more money going to health and the same ques/bed block and mayhem. Try to cut the unneeded clerical staff and more unions go in to uproar. The unions have to much say in how our health system is run and managed and until that stops all the money been fecked at health wont make it an easier job for any health minister. Harney was screwed, reilly was screwed, leos screwed and who ever takes over after leo is screwed unless some serious reform and changes happen

... and anyone who tries some serious reform or changes will be (as you put it) screwed - there are so many vested interests in keeping it a monumental mess.
Instead of trying to "eat the elephant" maybe someone should just take one hospital & try to sort it out?

Callan57

Good to see David Drumm's arrogance & deceit coming back to bite him in the ass - the yanks do not like liars

CountyHurler

Why is she putting such a PR spin on it... ?? And then blaming the fact that "people left it late"...

sudzs

Why is that GP talking down the NHS?? I'be been using the NHS over the last 6 or so years and have never had the experiences he describes.

Sheldons Brain

neris wrote: »

The unions have to much say in how our health system is run and managed and until that stops all the money been fecked at health wont make it an easier job for any health minister.

The unions give every indication of having a better clue how to limit damage than the minister, who does not seem to have a clue.

alaimacerc

sudzs wrote: »

Why is that GP talking down the NHS?? I'be been using the NHS over the last 6 or so years and have never had the experiences he describes.

I think the docs, and most especially the GPs, have a very different perception to the average end-user. For them, it's scary socialism and... *gasp* collective wage negotiation. Teh horror! They'll be flouncing out and working in Boston if we very dare think of such a thing!

I'm not sure it seems that way to most people, though. I suppose maybe to the people just about clinging on to their private cover, who have a quiet dread and horror of being thrown into the public sector with the hoi polloi and either having to wait in line, or pay more tax for the queues to be made shorter.

win2one

Talking about petrol prices on todays show ......why they deemed it necessary to send a reporter around Dublin and Cork to give examples of the variation in price when a look at www.pumps.ie would be far more comprehensive and at no cost to you and I .

L1011

sudzs wrote: »

Why is that GP talking down the NHS?? I'be been using the NHS over the last 6 or so years and have never had the experiences he describes.

Didn't hear the show but I'm going to guess it was about the GP waiting lists in certain areas of the NHS?

They exist and they're bloody terrible. In London it was a case of waiting three to four weeks for a non-emergency appointment, or paying more than a private patient here pays to go to a private GP (and buying any prescription private too). Other areas of the UK you'll get seen same day. The term "postcode lottery" was invented for the NHS for a reason.

alaimacerc

L1011 wrote: »

Didn't hear the show but I'm going to guess it was about the GP waiting lists in certain areas of the NHS?

Don't think he mentioned those, at least not in that context. Didn't mention anything in particular, that I recall. It was pretty much an impressionistic matter of "like the NHS, perish the thought", with visions of the contributor shuddering and crossing himself (ending with a firm grasp of his own wallet for the sake of safety).

Callan57

Strikes me that "max effect on the French state" is exactly the publicity these terrorists set out to achieve & we're giving them exactly what they want.

Lapin

Ah, Congrats to Fionnan Sheehan. I'm delighted for him.

Callan57

Roisin Shortall's constant interrupting is very annoying to listen to - can she not listen to someone speak & then make her point?

Harry Angstrom

The Abbot of Glenstal mustn't have much to worry him :rolleyes:

Meathlass

What a ridiculous piece to air.

CountyHurler

I was listening to Rona Mahony and Rory Cowan droning on when I could have been enjoying this...

Callan57

This is probably causing more embarrassement to the President than all of Callan's output ... beyone silly

Callan57

Why does that lady keep saying "marriage is the only relationship that brings children into the world" having already accepted that it is (of course) not the ONLY relationship. She needs to think through her argument in more depth IMO

Del.Monte

Sean "Fixer" Doherty should have been in jail himself - moral outrage from his daughter LOL. :rolleyes:

Callan57

So she knows nothing about it .. what is she doing on the prog then?

RayM

Callan57 wrote: »

Why does that lady keep saying "marriage is the only relationship that brings children into the world" having already accepted that it is (of course) not the ONLY relationship. She needs to think through her argument in more depth IMO

There are no valid arguments against marriage equality. Zero. Someone needs to tell them that repeating different variations of the Helen Lovejoy quote isn't fooling anyone. The anti-marriage equality side (which seems to consist entirely of various Catholic groups) should just start being honest and admit that it's not about children at all - it's about their opposition to homosexuality itself.

CountyHurler

Mary O'Rourke should not be on the review of the Charlie drama every week. She is simply there in defence of her family members.

touts

Callan57 wrote: »

Why does that lady keep saying "marriage is the only relationship that brings children into the world" haveing already accepted that it is (of course) not the ONLY relationship. She needs to think through her argument in more depth IMO

It's the same "Mother and Father Family unit is best" argument that saw children taken from single mothers and widowed fathers in the 50s and 60s and sent to institutions where they could be looked after by brothers, priests or nuns. They were so terrified of anything but their definition of a perfect family that they failed to see the bigger threat from the brothers, priests and nuns in the institutions.

brooke 2

Del.Monte wrote: »

Sean "Fixer" Doherty should have been in jail himself - moral outrage from his daughter LOL. :rolleyes:

Doherty is alleged to have made life very difficult for Garda Tully in Roscommon who
was trying to do his job.

brooke 2

CountyHurler wrote: »

Mary O'Rourke should not be on the review of the Charlie drama every week. She is simply there in defence of her family members.

Bad as she is, I would prefer her to the other woman. Sounds like a right harridan!

HeidiHeidi

brooke 2 wrote: »

Bad as she is, I would prefer her to the other woman. Sounds like a right harridan!

Kathy Sheridan is brilliant! Won't hear a word against her.

brooke 2

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

Kathy Sheridan is brilliant! Won't hear a word against her.

I like reading her articles but not listening to her.

HeidiHeidi

Why is everyone saying that Van Persie is out of the running for tonight because he's injured and can't turn up for the ceremony?

That's about the fifth time I've heard it said since yesterday.

It may be a two-horse race, but surely it's nothing to do with whether he's there or not.

I really, really hope that Stephanie does it!

BarryD

Given up on that Sean O'Rourke again - I've lost count of the number of political items he's covered recently and mostly Fianna Fail politics. Talk about reverting to type. Don't mind a bit of political intrigue but there's a limit!

alaimacerc

Callan57 wrote: »

Why does that lady keep saying "marriage is the only relationship that brings children into the world" having already accepted that it is (of course) not the ONLY relationship. She needs to think through her argument in more depth IMO

Some people would find it very inconvenient if they were only able to make arguments they'd thought through to a logical conclusion. Much better to just peddle whatever it is that people are buying. And there's clearly a market for some line of blather that'll help people vote no, and simultaneously put a few extra words in between "the gays" and "are terribly bad and immoral".

CountyHurler

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

Kathy Sheridan is brilliant! Won't hear a word against her.

I think she is good as well... She's very clear and concise.. But I can see how she might be seen to be "preachy" at times.

Callan57

Wasn't that the old Jewish area of Dublin?

IvyTheTerrible

Why doesn't Paddy ask them if being insulted by a cartoon justifies killing people?

sudzs

"Stephanie looked great"

Why was that the first thing he could say about the sportswoman??? :mad:

neris

sudzs wrote: »

"Stephanie looked great"

Why was that the first thing he could say about the sportswoman??? :mad:

did you see the state of Messi

IvyTheTerrible

sudzs wrote: »

"Stephanie looked great"

Why was that the first thing he could say about the sportswoman??? :mad:

It's the first thing a lot of people say about women in lots of fields, unfortunately.

Oops69

sudzs wrote: »

"Stephanie looked great"

Why was that the first thing he could say about the sportswoman??? :mad:

Thought he was quite chauvinistic and condescending in the space of a few words , SEan was as blind to it as he was .

Oops69

Brian DoWling can't even give the results of an opinion poll without garbling up the numbers into an incomprehensible mish- mash and sean needing to repeat all the numbers, then he goes on about them as if theres some great relevations within.

CountyHurler

Not impressed by this guy at all...

Are there off the shelf packages that could do the job?
I'm sure there are ...

Callan57

How stupid are people?
Predicting the weather is by it's nature an inexact science - count yourself lucky if the worst of the storm passed you & stop whinging.

sudzs

Poor Seth is about to pass out!!

...just tuned in, who is he?

Callan57

Wow! Getting very heated & our law society very, very defensive

EmptyTree

Seth's argument is being completely undermined, listening to him becoming so exasperated is hilarious.

Oops69

Is sean going to cover the real issues of the day at some point ?e.g Honohan at the banking enquiry , instead of this amateur 'century ireland ' and crap pretend news bulletins from 1915 , awful rubbish .

serfboard

sudzs wrote: »

Poor Seth is about to pass out!!
...just tuned in, who is he?

Callan57 wrote: »

Wow! Getting very heated & our law society very, very defensive

EmptyTree wrote: »

Seth's argument is being completely undermined, listening to him becoming so exasperated is hilarious.

For those who didn't hear it, could ye please enlighten us? Somebody debating with the Law Society? How did it turn out?