Sean O'Rourke Today Show

Callan57

Leo is a breath of fresh air

foxtrot101

Callan57 wrote: »

Leo is a breath of fresh air

Is he really? I find him just as evasive as any other politions. He's just better at hiding it than others.

neris

ah brilliant a great way to ruin a friday morning Ronan "your all going to hell" Mullen

Callan57

neris wrote: »

ah brilliant a great way to ruin a friday morning Ronan "your all going to hell" Mullen

He is one almighty pain in the butt

Harry Palmr

Wondering who this caveman was.

ThisRegard

He's a hateful man.

Callan57

Oh you can be sure Ronan will speak on it Ad nauseam - he's kinda obsessed with other people's sex lives

neris

Callan57 wrote: »

Oh you can be sure Ronan will speak on it Ad nauseam - he's kinda obsessed with other people's sex lives

If your talking about it, it means your not getting it

Loafing Oaf

Callan57 wrote: »

Oh you can be sure Ronan will speak on it Ad nauseam - he's kinda obsessed with other people's sex lives

Plus 50/50 rules mean himself and Fidelma HE are going to spending an awful of time in radio/tv studios over the next few months. What I'm not clear on is does the rule apply even if SSM is only intended to be a brief part of the panel discussion concerned? I suspect we could see more of what happened this morning: because Ronan is on the panel, the topic will push everything else aside...

Callan57

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

Plus 50/50 rules mean himself and Fidelma HE are going to spending an awful of time in radio/tv studios over the next few months. What I'm not clear on is does the rule apply even if SSM is only intended to be a brief part of the panel discussion concerned? I suspect we could see more of what happened this morning: because Ronan is on the panel, the topic will push everything else aside...

and push me to Lyric :rolleyes:

alaimacerc

foxtrot101 wrote: »

Is he really? I find him just as evasive as any other politions. He's just better at hiding it than others.

His evasiveness is so evasive it evades perception?

Now that's clever.

foxtrot101

alaimacerc wrote: »

His evasiveness is so evasive it evades perception?

Emm...no. It's still fairly obvious, but not as blatant as the rest them.

Leo is a bit too right-wing on economic matters for my taste, so I don't really find his perceived frankness that refreshing.

my friend

foxtrot101 wrote: »

Emm...no. It's still fairly obvious, but not as blatant as the rest them.

Leo is a bit too right-wing on economic matters for my taste, so I don't really find his perceived frankness that refreshing.

Reality a difficulty for you?

alaimacerc

foxtrot101 wrote: »

Emm...no. It's still fairly obvious, but not as blatant as the rest them.

Leo is a bit too right-wing on economic matters for my taste, so I don't really find his perceived frankness that refreshing.

He's vastly right-wing on economics! And says so! Hence I don't get this bit that he's "evasive". Just sounds like "I don't like him, so here's a random insult, don't much care if it fits".

LV is personally responsible for me voting quite a way down the local ticket to avoid FG following his chilling "we're going for an overall majority" soundbite. I hate to think what loose cannons I must have given a low preference to. He's exactly the opposite of what I believe in economically. But I have to give him credit for at least saying it. As opposed to the fauxialists in FF, who after sitting in the most crazed right-wing pro-cyclic boom-and-bust capitalist government in the history of the state, now try to play the socially concerned Keynsians from opposition.

foxtrot101

alaimacerc wrote: »

He's vastly right-wing on economics! And says so! Hence I don't get this bit that he's "evasive". Just sounds like "I don't like him, so here's a random insult, don't much care if it fits".

In the interview with O'Rourke he avoided answering quite a few of the health service related questions properly ie. he was being evasive, imo. He may have been more forthright when he was later asked more general political queations, but he didn't really answer the far more important questions related to his brief.

constitutionus

Jaysus this girls burying herself on the radio right now.

Call me mad but if I rang Kenya 19 times at a cost of over 2k I'd remember it .

touts

Michelle Mulherin is babbling incoherently. She claims that the only thing she knows about it is what was reported in the media but then she says she is the one who made the calls. She says she doesn't know what numbers were called then she says the calls were to represent someone else with an "ongoing problem". She says she made some calls to "Africa" but not sure it any of the calls were to Kenya.

Now she half sobs that she couldn't have made any personal calls because she doesn't have a personal life as she is so busy serving the people.

Give me a break!

ThisRegard

She's displaying a text book example of how not to handle such things. It's all the meeja, the meeja.....

P. Breathnach

Sean is handling the interview extremely well - he's at his best in dealing with things like this.

touts

I'd have a lot more respect for her if she just came out and said yes I was phoning my boyfriend back in Kenya. I made a mistake and I'll refund the money. I'm sure every other TD phones their partner on the Dail phone from time to time. Instead all this babbling about not wanting to talk about a "third party" and needing an investigation into which number were called did her more harm than good.

Callan57

touts wrote: »

I'd have a lot more respect for her if she just came out and said yes I was phoning my boyfriend back in Kenya. I made a mistake and I'll refund the money. I'm sure every other TD phones their partner on the Dail phone from time to time. Instead all this babbling about not wanting to talk about a "third party" and needing an investigation into which number were called did her more harm than good.

Agree, the very fact that she says she is prepared to refund the cost proves it was not a legitimate expense otherwise why would she refund it?
She should just have put her hands up & accept responsibility

constitutionus

this lads taking a VERY long time to say "no the irish government DONT want to have our debt wrote off"

Bits_n_Bobs

Meh - Irish lads still intent on getting crumbs from the table of our masters. Given the absolute lack of change in attitude between old FF government and current FG/Lab one has to wonder if this tugging the forelock to our EU betters is at the behest of the civil servants.

constitutionus

oooh this is fun

FG head is now saying noony didnt say what they said, rewriting history now they have to put up or shut up.



yer spoofing simon !

Loafing Oaf

ThisRegard wrote: »

She's displaying a text book example of how not to handle such things. It's all the meeja, the meeja.....

Speaking as a Ballina native, I'm afraid this line may actually enable her to turn the whole episode to her advantage when she's fighting to retain her seat at the next GE. This is the constituency that re-elected Beverly Flynn after all...

Bellerstring

MLOD waxing lyrically about UFC/Conor McGregor.:rolleyes:

touts

Bellerstring wrote: »

MLOD waxing lyrically about UFC/Conor McGregor.:rolleyes:

Feck it I'm missing it. Please tell me she took him on in the ring..

Callan57

touts wrote: »

Feck it I'm missing it. Please tell me she took him on in the ring..

I'd nearly pay to watch that

Bellerstring

touts wrote: »

Feck it I'm missing it. Please tell me she took him on in the ring..

Not quite, but she was positively drooling over the tight fit bodies, the balletic movements, the rippling muscles, etc.....
It made for uncomfortable listening

Callan57

Bellerstring wrote: »

Not quite, but she was positively drooling over the tight fit bodies, the balletic movements, the rippling muscles, etc.....
It made for uncomfortable listening

Why does Sean insist on inflicting that silly woman on us? Moment she is mentioned I'm gone to Lyric and regularly forget to go back. You couldn't pay me to listen to her silly over the top twittering :mad:

Callan57

In all honesty couldn't any of us be walking around meeting our half brothers/sisters? None of us know how responsible our parents were in their relationships do we?
OK accepted with sperm donation the odds are probably higher in a small population pool but nonetheless.

alaimacerc

Callan57 wrote: »

Why does Sean insist on inflicting that silly woman on us? Moment she is mentioned I'm gone to Lyric and regularly forget to go back. You couldn't pay me to listen to her silly over the top twittering :mad:

If one really must have MLOD -- and I'm not at all sure one must! -- she belongs on VinnyB. Needs a strong sour "acid" note to counteract all the saccharine mushiness. Sean is much too mellow these days to provide that.

alaimacerc

touts wrote: »

Michelle Mulherin is babbling incoherently.

That pretty much seems up her public and media appearances since... well, always.

Callan57

Ah Lord will you listen to this idiot

There is a real urgency for people to wise up and realise this mob are not just anti-water charge but are also anti-democratic. The people have been on the street .... SOME people have been on the street, the rest of us were too busy working for a living

neris

Callan57 wrote: »

Ah Lord will you listen to this idiot

There is a real urgency for people to wise up and realise this mob are not just anti-water charge but are also anti-democratic. The people have been on the street .... SOME people have been on the street, the rest of us were too busy working for a living

theyre not anti democratic theyre anti things not been done the way they want and the state not been more socialist and handoutish :rolleyes:

These people seem to be of a certain demographic that hurl abuse at politicians, water workers, the gardai and anyone else whos opinion varies to their hardline stance

touts

Callan57 wrote: »

Ah Lord will you listen to this idiot

There is a real urgency for people to wise up and realise this mob are not just anti-water charge but are also anti-democratic. The people have been on the street .... SOME people have been on the street, the rest of us were too busy working for a living

Higgins has been a total let down as president. Promised a lot during the campaign on the basis of his track record as a TD but now that his life ambition is achieved he has returned the office to the traditional role of the invisible old man coming out to shake hands when his party leader summons him.

That said the office deserves more respect no matter who holds it. They only hold it for a few years and we can but hope that a better person gets it next time. This mob don't care about democracy any more than they care the issue they protest over. I'd say a fair few of them were among the brave souls who bravely stormed Footlocker and liberated hundreds of pairs of runners during the Love Ulster Riot. They like causing trouble and that is their only aim when they head out in the morning.

The leadership of the anti-water campaign, such as this fellow on now, need to be stronger in condemning the extremists.

Oops69

Mc williams is an expert on the airline industry now apparently , he's really taking the piss now , O rourkes show is slowing becoming a boring old parade of has beens and the same old reliables.

alaimacerc

touts wrote: »

Higgins has been a total let down as president. Promised a lot during the campaign on the basis of his track record as a TD but now that his life ambition is achieved he has returned the office to the traditional role of the invisible old man coming out to shake hands when his party leader summons him.

And conversely, he also gets stick for being "too political" a president. For example on Vinnie B last night. If anyone was expecting a presidential coup, I think they've maybe not read the manual right.

That said the office deserves more respect no matter who holds it.

I think Micky D's been a pretty good president, and in line with what he said he'd do, but yes, the office deserves some respect in any event.

But I don't think they were attacking him for being a "bad president". Or for being who he is. Well beyond being a "Labour traitor", of course. They're attacking him because he's a "target".

The leadership of the anti-water campaign, such as this fellow on now, need to be stronger in condemning the extremists.

I totally agree. I find a lot of the online debate (see the thread on this site, for example) rather uncomfortable. We get extreme language of vilification of the government and IW, and veryveryvery weak words about the protest. "Most of the protest is peaceful" is pretty much the blanket response to pointing out any given part that wasn't peaceful.

To me, that's too much like what happens just before there's a pub fight. People getting their blood up. Sensing who's got their back up. Roaring and shouting at each other. Pretty soon it gets out of hand, and it's not just the person who threw the first punch that takes all the responsibility.

Callan57

touts wrote: »

Higgins has been a total let down as president. Promised a lot during the campaign on the basis of his track record as a TD but now that his life ambition is achieved he has returned the office to the traditional role of the invisible old man coming out to shake hands when his party leader summons him.

That said the office deserves more respect no matter who holds it. They only hold it for a few years and we can but hope that a better person gets it next time. This mob don't care about democracy any more than they care the issue they protest over. I'd say a fair few of them were among the brave souls who bravely stormed Footlocker and liberated hundreds of pairs of runners during the Love Ulster Riot. They like causing trouble and that is their only aim when they head out in the morning.

The leadership of the anti-water campaign, such as this fellow on now, need to be stronger in condemning the extremists.

IMO he's only a let down to those who don't understand, or don't want to understand, that the office is purely ceremonial & has no power.
But ceremonial or not he was elected and as such represents the Irish people as a whole and when the office is insulted IMO that is to insult all of us Irish. You can't just be a democrat when it suits

P. Breathnach

Oops69 wrote: »

Mc williams is an expert on the airline industry now apparently , he's really taking the piss now , O rourkes show is slowing becoming a boring old parade of has beens and the same old reliables.

I tend to take McWilliams's pronouncements with a large pinch of scepticism, but I think his comments of the Aer Lingus situation were fairly well on target.

Odyssey 2005

I am not a fan of Michael D's, in fact I pure don't like him. My personal feeling is he is a joke as a Persident.....however the people voted him in so,so be it. I do however respect him and the office he holds and was not very surprised at the abuse he received in Finglas the other day. I saw a YouTube video a couple of months ago where the guards were assisting the animal welfare ppl were taking a horse away from its owner. There were more guards involved in a simple task than graduated from Tempelmore in the good years. They took terrible abuse akin to the episode the other day. The two incidents happened a couple of hundred yards apart. Their mantra seems to be "SHAME ON YOU""

Loafing Oaf

touts wrote: »

Higgins has been a total let down as president. Promised a lot during the campaign on the basis of his track record as a TD but now that his life ambition is achieved he has returned the office to the traditional role of the invisible old man coming out to shake hands when his party leader summons him.

He was very clear that he would not and could not be continuing with the activism of his Dail years if he was elected president. IMO Mary Robinson extended pushed the boundaries of the presidency pretty much as far as they could go under the Constitution: MDH makes the same sort of progressive 'gestures' she did like meeting LGBT groups, but they're old hat now so there's no way his presidency can have the same rejuvenating effect...

Happyman42

A lot of this 'outrage' about protesting is completely over the top. The wrong things have been shouted at protests since time began, what is happening is that technology is allowing it to be recorded and that is being used to deflect a lot of the time.
I wonder was a certain firebomb thrown so that the office owner could cry 'oppression and abuse'.
Some protesters go too far...it's a definite minority though. A healthy bit of over reaction going on here methinks.

Callan57

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

He was very clear that he would not and could not be continuing with the activism of his Dail years if he was elected president. IMO Mary Robinson extended pushed the boundaries of the presidency pretty much as far as they could go under the Constitution: MDH makes the same sort of progressive 'gestures' she did like meeting LGBT groups, but they're old hat now so there's no way his presidency can have the same rejuvenating effect...

Agreed, of any of the candidates he was the most emphatic about appreciating the limitations of the office & I really think anyone who suggests otherwise is talking utter rubbish.

Callan57

Another cheerleader for the "boom" ... go away Tom you're annoying me

Del.Monte

The 'buck' club and it's more than a body can take.

P. Breathnach

Happyman42 wrote: »

A lot of this 'outrage' about protesting is completely over the top....

It's not outrage about protesting: it's outrage about particular events, such as today's discussion about the treatment of Michael D.

Happyman42

P. Breathnach wrote: »

It's not outrage about protesting: it's outrage about particular events, such as today's discussion about the treatment of Michael D.

And far worse 'particular events' have happened at protests over the years, to the protesters too and not a word about it. The slings and arrows of public office have always been so...we need to get over the fact that shiny new phones are recording this stuff and adjust perspective accordingly.

Callan57

If Jackie Jones is 37 years in health education and obecity rates are still growing does she not consider that her approach is also failing?
She sounds very much like someone determined to defend their own territory (and budget, no doubt!)

queensinead

touts wrote: »

Higgins has been a total let down as president. Promised a lot during the campaign on the basis of his track record as a TD ....

What did he "promise" during the campaign that he hasn't delivered?

More than any of the other candidates he kept explaining that the Constitution limited his political power as President and that he was a great respecter of the Constitution. Some of the other candidates spoke as if they would be formulating political policy, but Higgins always pointed out that this was impossible