2014 NFL Draft

Morrison J

HigginsJ wrote: »

I couldnt agree more on this. Outside of these 3 the rest are late rounders at best.

Two words...Deone Bucannon.

Gonna be a great addition for anyone who picks him up. Wouldn't be at all surprised if he slips into the 1st round even.

Ed Reynolds is also going under the radar. I actually really like the class of safeties this year!

Son Of A Vidic

mikemac1 wrote: »

The wise football fans booked Friday off work a long time ago :cool:

Paully D

HigginsJ wrote: »

I couldnt agree more on this. Outside of these 3 the rest are late rounders at best.

I cooled a bit on pryor when he measured in 3 inches shorter than his listed at the combine, but I have come back onside and I would have him ahead of HaHa

Pryor's a heat seaking missile. He's going to spend so much of his rookie money on fines :pac:

Hazys

Interesting article on why trading up is foolish:

http://www.vox.com/2014/5/7/5683448/how-nfl-teams-ignore-basic-economics-and-draft-players-irrationally

But the data says that teams just aren't very good at figuring out when this is true. On average, the chance that first player will start more games than the second one picked at his position: 52 percent. Compared to the third, it's still only 55 percent, and compared to the fourth, it's merely 56 percent.

These numbers suggest that moving up eight picks (the average distance between the first and second players at the same position) should cost a small amount, since you're only increasing the odds of a getting a more productive player by four percent or so. But as the steep curve shows, teams pay a ton to move up, especially at the top of the draft.

Paully D

The top rated mockers from the last five years:

Bob McGinn's mock draft.

Jason Boris's mock draft, though the website seems to be down for the last couple of hours.

Ben Standig's mock draft.

Dan Kadar's mock draft.

Mel Kiper's mock draft (ESPN Insider access required).

Dohnny Jepp

So assuming the experts are right, titans will definitely be drafting, Barr, or Bortles, or Manziel, or whoever Boris and Kiper have mocked :P.

HigginsJ

Dohnny Jepp wrote: »

So assuming the experts are right, titans will definitely be drafting, Barr, or Bortles, or Manziel, or whoever Boris and Kiper have mocked :P.

Kiper gave ye Barr as well

Hazys

https://twitter.com/hartmatt9/status/464438414633627648/photo/1

JaMarcusHustle

Take note of Todd McShay's final mock draft released today.

Bridgewater to the Browns
Manziel to the Cowboys
Mosley to the Ravens
Clinton-Dix all the way down to the Eagles

This is the first time he's had any of the four above scenarios, and all on the same day when Mayock released his first mock draft which included the above.

Draw your own conclusions.

Knex*

Cowboys and Manziel. Mother of Christ. All you can do is laugh :pac:

UnitedIrishman

Clinton-Dix shouldn't make it as far as the Eagles with us (Packers) ahead of them.

Most mocks have us picking Shazier or Mosley which would be decent.

chris snee is a very good analyst hes on nfl network at the moment

Knex*

Gerald Polite Smallpox wrote: »

chris snee is a very good analyst hes on nfl network at the moment

Nice one. Will take a look

Knex.

Knex. wrote: »

Nice one. Will take a look

hes gone now.

theres not enough ex o-lineman analysts out there

Knex*

Gerald Polite Smallpox wrote: »

hes gone now.

theres not enough ex o-lineman analysts out there

Have game pass so can go back. Was it Snee or Shaun O'Hara, who is often on and is quite good? Have never seen Snee on it before. Plus, he's still playing

Knex.

Knex. wrote: »

Have game pass so can go back. Was it Snee or Shaun O'Hara, who is often on and is quite good? Have never seen Snee on it before. Plus, he's still playing

sorry your right it was shaun o hara

Paully D

Here's my final mock for tonight:



It's without doubt going to be miles off, but I just get this sneaking feeling that has been in my head for the last couple of days that the Browns are going to get sense and take Bridgewater. I honestly didn't see the McShay pick of him mentioned by JaMarcus or any other link for Bridgewater/Browns before finishing this mock either.

Some other changes I've made:

Vikings pass on a QB with Teddy off the board and go for Donald, the Bears as a result select the heat seeking missile that is Calvin Pryor as they badly need safety help despite just missing out on Clinton-Dix. This also results in the Cowboys needing to adjust and taking Jernigan. Final adjustment is that the Panthers decide to go big WR with Benjamin and the 49ers go for pass rush in Dee Ford.

Otherwise it's unchanged.

Only 1 QB off the board. Unlikely, but I can't get anyone else in. I've come to the conclusion that Jerry Jones is just trolling if he takes Manziel. I'm fully convinced that he's playing a blinder and will get someone to make a trade up to take him at #16, but that would be giving him too much credit :pac:

Knex*

Gerald Polite Smallpox wrote: »

sorry your right it was shaun o hara

Cool. Fully agree, find his analysis is often quite good. I'd be bias, naturally, but he certainly beats the likes of Miller and Sapp.

madalig12

I think the Texans will trade back and take a QB with their first pick.

helimachoptor

The excitement! This time last year I was positive who the titans were taking this year it have no idea

madalig12

helimachoptor wrote: »

The excitement! This time last year I was positive who the titans were taking this year it have no idea

Would you wet yourself if they traded into first for Clowney??

Dublin Red Devil

Paully D wrote: »

Here's my final mock for tonight:



It's without doubt going to be miles off, but I just get this sneaking feeling that has been in my head for the last couple of days that the Browns are going to get sense and take Bridgewater. I honestly didn't see the McShay pick of him mentioned by JaMarcus or any other link for Bridgewater/Browns before finishing this mock either.

Some other changes I've made:

Vikings pass on a QB with Teddy off the board and go for Donald, the Bears as a result select the heat seeking missile that is Calvin Pryor as they badly need safety help despite just missing out on Clinton-Dix. This also results in the Cowboys needing to adjust and taking Jernigan. Final adjustment is that the Panthers decide to go big WR with Benjamin and the 49ers go for pass rush in Dee Ford.

Otherwise it's unchanged.

Only 1 QB off the board. Unlikely, but I can't get anyone else in. I've come to the conclusion that Jerry Jones is just trolling if he takes Manziel. I'm fully convinced that he's playing a blinder and will get someone to make a trade up to take him at #16, but that would be giving him too much credit :pac:

You think Bridgwater will be the first QB off the board? And get picked before Sammy Watkins? I can't see it.

No way Taylor Lewan is still on the board at 17

Bortles will sure be off the board in round one also

Hulk Hands

Paully D wrote: »

Here's my final mock for tonight:



It's without doubt going to be miles off, but I just get this sneaking feeling that has been in my head for the last couple of days that the Browns are going to get sense and take Bridgewater. I honestly didn't see the McShay pick of him mentioned by JaMarcus or any other link for Bridgewater/Browns before finishing this mock either.

McShay mocks him at 26 to the Browns though. I havent seen a mock for about a month that has him going top 5. I have a dangerous amount of money on him going after 5 so dont be making me nervous!

Dublin Red Devil

What time will the actually 1st pick be announced live. After all the posturing and promotion build up that drags on at the start of the program

padraig_f

Knex. wrote: »

Cowboys and Manziel. Mother of Christ. All you can do is laugh :pac:

Please make it happen.

Morrison J

Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 16m
Blake Bortles at the top RT @ProFootballTalk: Now the Cowboys are saying Johnny Manziel's not atop their draft board http://wp.me/p14QSB-9tyF

helimachoptor

Is it 2 rounds tonight? Beer/sun has made me forget!

helimachoptor

helimachoptor wrote: »

Is it 2 rounds tonight? Beer/sun has made me forget!

just 1, rounds 2/3 are tomorow and the rest the night after

Paully D

Dublin Red Devil wrote: »

You think Bridgwater will be the first QB off the board? And get picked before Sammy Watkins? I can't see it.

No way Taylor Lewan is still on the board at 17

Bortles will sure be off the board in round one also

Yep, I think there's going to be a lot of surprises in terms of QB's behind all the bluster in this draft, but I'm obviously just guessing and in all honesty we all might as well be throwing darts at a board with players stuck on it as trying to predict what will happen :pac: If I even got 7 or 8 picks spot on I'd be delighted considering the best ranked experts average 10.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if Bortles goes to the Vikings at #8. Cardinals at #20 probably his only other real shot at going in the 1st IMO, I've seen a few people mock him there and I don't think any of the QB needy teams at the top of the draft will pull the trigger on him so early. If the Vikings and Cardinals pass he could easily slip out of it for me.

Hulk Hands wrote: »

McShay mocks him at 26 to the Browns though. I havent seen a mock for about a month that has him going top 5. I have a dangerous amount of money on him going after 5 so dont be making me nervous!

Ah, I see. Everything indicates that you'll be fine with that bet mate. You're on Clowney #1 too aren't you?

padraig_f

Paully D wrote: »

The top rated mockers from the last five years:

Bob McGinn's mock draft.

Jason Boris's mock draft, though the website seems to be down for the last couple of hours.

Ben Standig's mock draft.

Dan Kadar's mock draft.

Mel Kiper's mock draft (ESPN Insider access required).

Bears' target Aaron Donald going at #7 or #8 (Bucs & Vikings) in most, so looks like he won't be there at #14.

Calvin Pryor the most common next pick, though some feel he's not quite worth the #14 pick, so could see the Bears trading down if they can find a partner.

Hulk Hands

Paully D wrote: »

Ah, I see. Everything indicates that you'll be fine with that bet mate. You're on Clowney #1 too aren't you?

Yeah, numerous others too like McCarron over 39.5 and Manziel to go first QB at 2s. Prices have been all over the shop in the last few months. Was going to be an interesting few days regardless, moreso now. Still wouldnt mind the Vikings taking Bridgewater at 8, despite the drop. Indications say theyre swerving QB 1st round though

jesus david carr was sacked 76 times in his rookie year thats insane

JaMarcusHustle

Major spoiler on the 1st overall pick. Derek Carr spotted on stage at the draft with a Texans cap.

http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2014/5/8/5695694/2014-nfl-draft-tv-announcer-bingo-cards

draft bingo

taidghbaby

Stuck €5 on Logan Thomas to be the first QB taken outside Carr, Bridgewater, Manziel and Bortles at 40/1!

Come on you raiders!

Alfred Borden

Please tell me it starts early enough, cant be doing a late one tonight!

Paully D

Raf32 wrote: »

Please tell me it starts early enough, cant be doing a late one tonight!

1am mate. It'll run until around 04:30am, maybe closer to 5am.

Alfred Borden

Paully D wrote: »

1am mate. It'll run until around 04:30am, maybe closer to 5am.

Thanks, i definitely wont be staying up for it so even though its very tempting :pac:

Son Of A Vidic

Raf32 wrote: »

Please tell me it starts early enough, cant be doing a late one tonight!

You sound pretty sick to me there, better get that throat looked at and take tomorrow off.

Alfred Borden

Corvus Maximus wrote: »

You sound pretty sick to me there, better get that throat looked at and take tomorrow off.

Must be contagious around these parts :pac:

Knex*

Charlie Casserly's Mock Draft on NFL Network. He's there swiping at names and they won't move over on the board :pac:

HigginsJ

Not looking at any more of the experts predictions from now on as they are probably going to be inside info.

Anything to be said for a tread that only discusses picks as they are made (or another mass)

Knex*

HigginsJ wrote: »

Not looking at any more of the experts predictions from now on as they are probably going to be inside info.

Anything to be said for a tread that only discusses picks as they are made (or another mass)

That was done last year, wasn't it?

Think most would be up for that. A no spoilers/twitter/experts/etc Draft thread

HigginsJ

Knex. wrote: »

That was done last year, wasn't it?

Think most would be up for that. A no spoilers/twitter/experts/etc Draft thread

Cool, I'll open one later or work away if you want

Knex*

HigginsJ wrote: »

Cool, I'll open one later or work away if you want

Here ya go
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057206298

Rock Lesnar

HigginsJ wrote: »

Not looking at any more of the experts predictions from now on as they are probably going to be inside info.

Anything to be said for a tread that only discusses picks as they are made (or another mass)

Apologies didnt mean my post to be a spoiler or anything, just posted it up without thinking.

billicks a nut job crazy mock (wont say what the picks are i know there are people trying to avoid all that already)

edit:

manziel going number 1

Hulk Hands

Put - spoiler thread in the title here and post away

SimmerDean

Dimitroff saying very unlikely for Falcons to trade up to 1. Could trade up to other spots though. Can't see Texans trading 1st pick now.

OldMrBrennan83

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