Bad shows on TV that everyone else thinks are great?

snausages

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

I never get this attitude. If you hate it, its **** and youbdont watch it, how does it even reguster with you enough that you cant wait till its finished. How do you even know its finishing this season seeing as you dont watch it and hate it?

When you invest 100 hours of your life into something it becomes difficult to just drop it when it turns bad. I'm sure Lost and BSG fans get what I mean.

BeerWolf

Coronation Street, Neighbours, Home and Away, etc.


All are a load of CRAP!



And on a side note to OP: The Simpsons was good for the first 10 seasons, it's been running on fumes since!

Rebel Rebel

I find that "The late late Show" is 95% of the time a terrible watch and end up switching over with in the 1st 10-20 min

Tea 1000

Sunglasses Ron wrote: »

Maybe it is a class and cultural thing. The characters in Only Fools are specifically related to a working class subculture of dodgy, but generally not malevolent, good natured crooks of limited intellect. We all know a version of a Del Boy. Because it is so aligned with a particular culture, that is he reason why any US remake would likely be so terrible. Either way I would be baffled as to how someone could not rate Only Fools (mind you the very first series took a few episodes to find its feet, and the very final three were not great, but the rest were like nothing else)

Completely agree. I rate it as one of the few genuinely clever comedys around. It has a tendency to hit the nail on the head more accurately than you expected. You knew where it was going with something, but the way it got there was frequently excellent.

Tea 1000

BeerWolf wrote: »

Coronation Street, Neighbours, Home and Away, etc.


All are a load of CRAP!



And on a side note to OP: The Simpsons was good for the first 10 seasons, it's been running on fumes since!

Everyone says the first 10 seasons, but I think it was season 3 or 4 at least before it started to get good. After 13 or 14 you were only getting 1 or 2 good episodes per season really.

Wibbs

Frank Lee Midere wrote: »

Exactly. Firstly only fools and horses is critically acclaimed and isn't good.

It was the perfect example of a show outstaying it's welcome, long after it jumped the shark. That said some of the early ones were good. Obviously IMH and all that. The one with the chandelier springs to mind, as does the one where they mistakenly use luminous paint to clean up their mothers gravestone. There were a few diamonds in the rough. Watch the pre Uncle Albert ones again. Some real beauts among them.

Disliking friends is as common amongst the pseudo cool but for what it is - a house share comedy - it's pretty good.

+1. It was a well put together show and although "safe" it kept it's own level of quality up pretty much right to the end. Very few shows can claim that, especially ones that lasted that long.

Personally I never got the Office, UK or US. Then again I've not worked in one so maybe I miss many of the situations and jokes?

Glee is beyond dire. I hate musicals in the first place, so adding in a rogues gallery of right on stereotypes the Onion would baulk at fielding in a story makes it beyond risible for me.

Big Bang theory was interesting and funny at the start, but again shark jumped. For me two and half men from the same stable kept it's head for longer(more one joke show mind you).

Big Brother/X factor/Britains got special needs etc are demonstrably bad television with not even the smell of an aspiration to be quality. Lowest common denominator shíte. That's the cutoff for me. I abhor guff like Glee, but at least it's trying(and failing) to be more.

GLaDOS

Watched the first 3 episodes of Breaking Bad and wasn't particularly impressed (awfully depressing too!). Some BB fans seem to get personally offended when I tell them this . I don't watch much TV though, probably required more patience.

_Puma_

HighClass wrote: »

Big Bang Theory, Two And a Half Men, How I Met Your Mother

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One of these seem to always be on when I sit down to watch TV in the evening. Leads to an instant panic looking for the remote to turn over! I'd rather watch Nationwide. Have a particular hatred for How I met your Mother and the most unlike-able characters in TV history. The early episodes of Two and a Half men are passable if I'm in the mood!

Love/Hate was another one I missed out on when it was first aired and constant fawning over it by people on facebook/the radio etc.. started to grate on me. Recently started watching it from the first season and I can see now what the hype was about, it is a great show, with Nidge been the shows highlight performance! Probably the fact that people kept raving about it is what annoyed me about it. I'm Guessing this is why the OP mentions Breaking Bad cause in my opinion it is one of the best written shows on TV at the moment.

Has anyone mentioned Lost yet! Terrible post season 1.

Caonima

Wibbs wrote: »

Glee is beyond dire. I hate musicals in the first place, so adding in a rogues gallery of right on stereotypes the Onion would baulk at fielding in a story makes it beyond risible for me..

Oh lord, I had the misfortune of having to choke down 15 or 20 minutes of this one time... bang on what you said - tick-the-box stereotypes in a whore's abortion of a show. Truly cringeworthy for the non-retarded:cool:

Wibbs

Caonima wrote: »

bang on what you said - tick-the-box stereotypes in a whore's abortion of a show.

Yep and I find it insulting because it uses such stereotypes. EG they have gay characters, rather than characters that happen to be gay. On that front Doctor Who in it's "new" run from 05 on nailed that one right. It had characters that happened to be gay or bi or whatever. It wasn't a selling point, it was just another part of a story and they did it in a family show. Kudos to them on that one.

Tom M

Tea 1000 wrote: »

Everyone says the first 10 seasons, but I think it was season 3 or 4 at least before it started to get good. After 13 or 14 you were only getting 1 or 2 good episodes per season really.

Season 3-9 were brilliant. The Simpsons died in 1998.

mutley18

The Angelus is pretty terrible, I don't understand how it hasn't been axed yet, same auld shíte every episode, the dialogue and character development are non-existent and the actors are awful.

VinLieger

Mrs browns boys, I seriously think anyone who enjoys it must have been dropped as a child

michael.dublin

any of the ridiculous about of cooking programs, every day without fail it is on, worst have to be come dine with me (they really know how to kill a good meal)
Is it too much to ask for, just one day without one of them programs on. Please and thanks

Caonima

Wibbs wrote: »

Yep and I find it insulting because it uses such stereotypes. EG they have gay characters, rather than characters that happen to be gay. On that front Doctor Who in it's "new" run from 05 on nailed that one right. It had characters that happened to be gay or bi or whatever. It wasn't a selling point, it was just another part of a story and they did it in a family show. Kudos to them on that one.

Agreed, and shows like The Wire did this, too; characters who incidentally were gay rather than it being a central focus, e.g.

Captain Rawls

Irish Guitarist

The Simpsons was great until about 1997. It went downhill but there was still the occasional laugh. Now it's not even remotely funny. You just know what's going to happen in every episode - Homer gets a new job and there's a load of celebrity voices portraying themselves.

I can't stand South Park. Badly animated, unfunny drivel.

I thought The Wire had its moments but overall it was too slow for my liking. It was on Sky Atlantic last year and I used to record it and save it for when I had nothing else to watch.

SpaceTime

VinLieger wrote: »

Mrs browns boys, I seriously think anyone who enjoys it must have been dropped as a child

It's in the classic music hall derived genre of television comedy like Are You Being Served and to an extent Allo Allo..

They're basically stage shows and they still have a big audience.

Wouldn't really be my cup of tea.

One British show I don't quite get through is Last Of The Summer Wines. It's like it's set in a village that fell into a time warp. I know it's supposed to be present day but like many O`Irish movies it also looks like the 1950s ... Other than the odd glimpse of modernity like a mobile phone being used by Nora Batty or something.

It's like Yorkshire viewed through the prism of some Soft Southerners' stereotype of what life must be like Up North...

It makes Ballykissangle seem fairly accurate.

Also that Awful 1980s/90s show with Mrs Bucket .... Makes me want to break the tv.

krudler

Sam Kade wrote: »

Sounds unmissable :rolleyes:

It is. Glad you agree

Doctor Who is something I could never get into, its cheap crappy sci-fi, I know a few people who love it to bits, I tried, watched a few episodes but it's just not my thing at all, and I like sci-fi.

SpaceTime

Star Trek Voyager....
(Shudders)

PropJoe10

The Big Bang Theory
Anger Management
Two And A Half Men

Seriously, how can anyone think that Friends or Breaking Bad are awful?

krudler

ScienceNerd wrote: »

Watched the first 3 episodes of Breaking Bad and wasn't particularly impressed (awfully depressing too!). Some BB fans seem to get personally offended when I tell them this . I don't watch much TV though, probably required more patience.

When I first started it I thought the first ep was brilliant, then it slows down a fair bit and I wasn't getting it, but once you become invested in the characters it goes to another level. People who write it off saying there's no character development are talking out of their hole, there's a ton of it. Is it flawless? no, some of the characters don't do much and there are some really contrived plot devices at times, but it's all done so brilliantly the overall show is worth any shortcomings.

see? not all BB fans are beyond criticising it :pac:

SpaceTime

That 1960s variety / chat show on RTE that they can't seem to kill off ...

krudler

oh oh, anything than Danny Fackin' Dyer hosts or narrates, his "awright geezer I'll fackin' do you my son" faux hard man act is laughable.

reality shows like Storage Wars, it's not reality tv if all the situations are set up.

SpaceTime

Cash in the Attic and all other associated BBC auction room reality shows

Billy86

The Big Bang Theory is awful (though Jim Parsons is good, but not enough to offset the rest). This is basically every scene:

Character 1: I'm a nerd, get it?
*Laugh track*

Character 2: I'm a nerd, get it?
*Laugh track*

Character 3: You're a nerd, get it?
*Laugh track*

Characters 1 & 2: You're a nerd too, get it?
*Laugh track*

Character 4 (a 'non nerd'): You're ALL nerds!!!! Get it?
*Laugh track*

Wash, rinse, repeat for half an hour.

Tony EH

Bad shows on TV that everyone else thinks are great?

Christ! Where do I start?

'Star Trek', after the second season of the original series. Even though some of 'The Next Generation' was good, the vast majority of the franchise is absolute bollocks.

'Modern Family' :rolleyes: fkn hell

'Lost' Utter rubbish that was made up as the show went along. Amazed that this lasted so long and more people couldn't see through it.

'New Girl' :mad: NO!!!

'Cheers' Never laughed once. 'Frasier' wallops it completely on every level.

'Battlestar Galactica' I tried and I failed. May give it another go at some stage.

'Under the Dome' Stephen King short unbearably dragged out over what seems to be at least two seasons, populated with bland characters and turgid dialogue.

'The Cosby Show' Lost for words...

'Boardwalk Empire' Faux 30's gangsters that look more modern that those in 'The Sopranos'. Could have been great, but too many wrong notes hit to be enjoyable, including a totally unnecessary "Omar" style black character that's alomost completely out of place. Tried hard to like it, as I like the period, but couldn't get past the first half of season one.

'True Blood' Vampires for women. Horror's keystone monster reduced to a teen knicker-wetter's sex fantasy. Ugh...

'Madmen' Boremen...

I could go on and on...

Sunglasses Ron

Caonima wrote: »

Agreed, and shows like The Wire did this, too; characters who incidentally were gay rather than it being a central focus, e.g.

Captain Rawls

That scene was funny, I had to hit rewind to do a double take on whether I was seeing things :pac:

Caonima wrote: »

Oh lord, I had the misfortune of having to choke down 15 or 20 minutes of this one time... bang on what you said - tick-the-box stereotypes in a whore's abortion of a show. Truly cringeworthy for the non-retarded:cool:

What I can't fathom is that it is critically acclaimed. Yes, 14 year old girls and grown men who are as camp as a row of tents should like this rubbish, but what mystifies me is the critical acclaim. The acting and singing are terrible. I assume the plots are (I've never seen more than twenty minutes of it). Yet it has won mainstream awards and critical acclaim. You don't see One Direction sweep the board at the NME awards. The Black Eyed Peas don't get critically fellated by the writers at Rolling Stone. So why does a show with such little artistic merit get such adulation?

ferike1

Big bang theory.

April O Neill

Frank Lee Midere wrote: »

Disliking friends is as common amongst the pseudo cool but for what it is - a house share comedy - it's pretty good.

+1 to the one. Definitely not cool to say you like it.

It dipped in quality in the last few seasons, but there are a lot of really great jokes there, and great cast chemistry, which is very unusual.

I also think Chandler Bing is a genuinely great TV character.

Merkin

I'm not really one to pass comment as I absolutely love sh1te TV - the more vacuous and rubbish the better tbh.

In saying that, Dexter was a phenomenal TV show until the end of Season 4. The scriptwriters then insisted on subjecting us to another four - Season 8 has just a few episodes left thank God and I'd say to anyone about to embark on the boxsets either not to bother or just to finish at Season 4 and not subject yourself to the drivel of Seasons 5/6/7 & 8.

krudler

April O Neill wrote: »

+1 to the one. Definitely not cool to say you like it.

It dipped in quality in the last few seasons, but there are a lot of really great jokes there, and great cast chemistry, which is very unusual.

I also think Chandler Bing is a genuinely great TV character.

season 5 is woeful, with all the Emily/Ross wedding stuff and Pheobe being pregnant, it got funnier again after that then dipped again in season 9 and 10. But when it's funny it's very, very funny. The episode where they bet the apartments against each other and play Ross's game is still hilarious.

I hate Pheobe, people seem to love her but she's an awful character who didn't progress beyond being a kooky weird horrible person in the 10 seasons, Ross got funnier once they stopped him being a drip and he went mental. Jennifer Aniston is probably the most underrated of them, she has fantastic comic timing.

Caonima

Sunglasses Ron wrote: »

That scene was funny, I had to hit rewind to do a double take on whether I was seeing things :pac:

Yeah, me, too. A great rewind moment in an otherwise fantastic show. Rewatching it at the moment, end of season 2.

Sunglasses Ron wrote: »

What I can't fathom is that it is critically acclaimed. ... Yet it has won mainstream awards and critical acclaim. You don't see One Direction sweep the board at the NME awards. The Black Eyed Peas don't get critically fellated by the writers at Rolling Stone. So why does a show with such little artistic merit get such adulation?

You have me on this one, although I don't think Rolling Stone is that credible anymore. I guess it's just more of the same shite rolling through Hollywood or wherever that's getting the plaudits. I mean, it can't be any surprise when Justin Beaver is winning stuff, too, that infantile garbage like Glee is winning things, too. Reflects a poor contemporary culture emerging in the USA at the moment.

Billy86

krudler wrote: »

I hate Pheobe, people seem to love her but she's an awful character who didn't progress beyond being a kooky weird horrible person in the 10 seasons, Ross got funnier once they stopped him being a drip and he went mental. Jennifer Aniston is probably the most underrated of them, she has fantastic comic timing.

I was never a particularly big fan of Friends, but I do remember this being funny. I haven't seen it since it's original run, but there's an episode to do with Ross and Maple Syrup that was brilliant.

It also reminded me of something that was terrible about Friends though - the absolute abuse of the laugh track. Which also shows just how awful Two and a Half Men was:

April O Neill

krudler wrote: »

I hate Pheobe, people seem to love her but she's an awful character who didn't progress beyond being a kooky weird horrible person in the 10 seasons, Ross got funnier once they stopped him being a drip and he went mental. Jennifer Aniston is probably the most underrated of them, she has fantastic comic timing.

Me and the BF both hate Phoebe too, she actually a right bitch most of the time.

+1 on JA. Maybe the best actor on the show.

Sunglasses Ron

April O Neill wrote: »

+1 to the one. Definitely not cool to say you like it.

It dipped in quality in the last few seasons, but there are a lot of really great jokes there, and great cast chemistry, which is very unusual.

I also think Chandler Bing is a genuinely great TV character.

I disliked Friends in its hey day yet quite like watching the repeats now (I wouldn't go out of my way to watch it but if its on I will watch it and get a few laughs).

Probably indicative of how awful most current US sitcoms are more than anything.

Caonima

I remember an episode of Friends with Chandler trapped in a bank with a girl... remember that was a quite heartening two-character exchange. Apart from that, though, in retrospect, Friends was responsible for the hoard of garbage shows we have littering the TV landscape now. Sitcoms weren't a new idea, but Friends really increased their popularity.

sbsquarepants

krudler wrote: »

oh oh, anything than Danny Fackin' Dyer hosts or narrates, his "awright geezer I'll fackin' do you my son" faux hard man act is laughable.

reality shows like Storage Wars, it's not reality tv if all the situations are set up.

There is no one on tv who can promote the urge to punch the screen quite as much as our danny - what a fúcking muppet! Plus i'd say, in reality the git is about as hard as my baby daughters bath sponge - jesus, i can't stand that man.

krudler wrote: »

Jennifer Aniston is probably the most underrated of them, she has fantastic comic timing.

And is also a world class peanut smuggler - every episode without fail:P I love you jen!

krudler

April O Neill wrote: »

Me and the BF both hate Phoebe too, she actually a right bitch most of the time.

+1 on JA. Maybe the best actor on the show.

Phoebe was just a horrible person the entire run of the show, she seemed like the kind of person who'd dump the rest on a whim , and her baffling mother/grandmother/family backstory never made sense. who's her mother? she has her mother, her fake mother, her grandmother? I was never clear on it.

I love the episode where they have to go to some function Ross is at and they're all late, the episode is in real time as far as I remember they have 20 odd minutes to get ready. Chandler stealing all the seat cushions and Joey wearing all his clothes lol.

callaway92

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Because they havent got a clue about what makes a great t.v show, and there opinion is invalid.

ok.

Il Trap

pharmaton wrote: »

best show ever

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4LzGwsL5vs

That reminds me. Mario Rosenstock's sketches are generally sh!te. He's very poor man's Apres Match.

April O Neill

sbsquarepants wrote: »

And is also a world class peanut smuggler - every episode without fail:P I love you jen!

YES! My BF is always pointing out her nips and has made the same observation. It is SO done deliberately.

vitani

krudler wrote: »

season 5 is woeful, with all the Emily/Ross wedding stuff and Pheobe being pregnant, it got funnier again after that then dipped again in season 9 and 10. But when it's funny it's very, very funny. The episode where they bet the apartments against each other and play Ross's game is still hilarious.

I hate Pheobe, people seem to love her but she's an awful character who didn't progress beyond being a kooky weird horrible person in the 10 seasons, Ross got funnier once they stopped him being a drip and he went mental. Jennifer Aniston is probably the most underrated of them, she has fantastic comic timing.

I thought the quality was great up until Emily and Ross got married, then it dipped for a couple of seasons but then seasons 10 was good again. Phoebe noticeably changed after she gave birth to the triplets - apparently the writers liked the meaner side of her while she was pregnant and decided to keep it going. I much preferred the kooky, uber-moral person she was in the first few seasons.

Disagree completely about Ross. He worked best IMO when he played the straight man against the funnier Chandler and Joey. When they started making him into a comedy character, he just annoyed me. Well, annoyed me most of the time. 'PIVOT! PIVOT! PIVVVVOOOOTTTTT' still makes me grin. He toned it down again for most of the last season (after the freakout over Rachel and Joey) which is probably why I like the season so much.

Matthew Perry was my favourite of the actors, but he was given some awful material to work with near the end. I mean, his story in one of the Thanksgiving episodes was that he'd made the cranberry sauce and was proud of it. Not quite as bad as Joey thinking he could speak French, but still, come on. What were the writers thinking?

April O Neill

krudler wrote: »

I love the episode where they have to go to some function Ross is at and they're all late, the episode is in real time as far as I remember they have 20 odd minutes to get ready. Chandler stealing all the seat cushions and Joey wearing all his clothes lol.

That's one of the best episodes.

handlemaster

Fr Ted. boring

PropJoe10

handlemaster wrote: »

Fr Ted. boring

:eek:

conor2469

SpaceTime wrote: »

Two Broke Girls ... It's like a bad 1970s show full of racist stereotypes. They just openly mock the Asian guy for being Asian basically and have this supposedly Polish lady with an entertaining accent and another Eastern Europe guy again stereotyped. The stereotyped black guy on the till ... They had an Irish guy called 'Irish' - redhead with tatts in prison of course...
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+1

I was waiting for someone to mention that. The biggest load of ****e I have ever seen in my entire life, 2 minutes and it was turned off. The trailers for it make me sick.

_Kaiser_

krudler wrote: »

It's a toss up between that and The Wire or The Sopranos for me

Have to agree - tried The Wire after watching The Shield and thought it was awful.. gave up after a few episodes.

Watched The Sopranos recently for the first time and IMO it only really started getting good around season 4. Before that I considered giving up on it several times as who wants to watch a show like that and be forced to sit through teenage angst, his wife thinking of having an affair, him crying to a shrink etc.

The last 2 seasons were a significant improvement though!

rawn wrote: »

Oh, and Two and a Half Men. How the actual fúck is that show still going?

Yes, it should have been killed off when Charlie was fired. Even the last season or 2 before that it was starting to get stale when they made him settle down with Chelsea.

Caonima

Kaiser2000 wrote: »

Before that I considered giving up on it several times as who wants to watch a show like that and be forced to sit through teenage angst, his wife thinking of having an affair, him crying to a shrink etc.

:rolleyes:

PropJoe10

Kaiser2000 wrote: »

Have to agree - tried The Wire after watching The Shield and thought it was awful.. gave up after a few episodes.

Watched The Sopranos recently for the first time and IMO it only really started getting good around season 4. Before that I considered giving up on it several times as who wants to watch a show like that and be forced to sit through teenage angst, his wife thinking of having an affair, him crying to a shrink etc.

The last 2 seasons were a significant improvement though!

Its hard for me to explain how much I disagree with pretty much everything you've said there, about both The Wire and The Sopranos. Different strokes for different folks though, I guess. For me, the best two television shows that have ever been made.

Caonima

PropJoe10 wrote: »

Its hard for me to explain how much I disagree with pretty much everything you've said there, about both The Wire and The Sopranos. Different strokes for different folks though, I guess. For me, the best two television shows that have ever been made.

Your username is a total giveaway that you like The Wire.

Ever seen Homicide: Live on the streets?