[DISCUSSION] Let's just give a family a house.

JONJO THE MISER

Yeah go on ill throw in a Tenner.

anncoates

MadsL wrote: »

Can you get a room?

Are you going to have a telethon to pay for that as well?

MadsL

TheTorment wrote: »

I'm in too.

Nice idea OP.

€€99,840 to go. Fantastic, thanks.

DARK-KNIGHT

considering i am one of those that got scorched by the celtic tiger ill take the tenner you want and put it towards my kids education.....

MadsL

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Yeah go on ill throw in a Tenner.

Thank you

€€99,830 to go.

Momentum

MadsL

DARK-KNIGHT wrote: »

considering i am one of those that got scorched by the celtic tiger ill take the tenner you want and put it towards my kids education.....

Could you ask the kids for a tenner?

DARK-KNIGHT

MadsL wrote: »

€€99,840 to go. Fantastic, thanks.

can i ask why or who you are doing this for? also set up a registered charity for this so anyone donating knows where their money is going..

Frank Lee Midere

Isn't this guy from the richest country in the world and isn't he a warrior who fought for the American elites, and people in that order? Can they not chip in? Even if opposed to general "socialism" surely looking after people who fought for the country - however misguided the fight - would be the moral prerogative of the State which sent him to fight and not random charities. Ask George W for a few bob. He can afford a house out if chump change. And it's his fight.

MadsL

EireGreg wrote: »

priory hall resident maybe?

Actually not a bad idea. Poor sods.

MadsL

Frank Lee Midere wrote: »

Isn't this guy from the richest country in the world and isn't he a warrior who fought for the American elites, and people in that order? Can they not chip in? Even if opposed to general "socialism" surely looking after people who fought for the country - however misguided the fight - would be the moral prerogative of the State which sent him to fight and not random charities. Ask
George W for a few bob. He can afford a house out if chump change.

US politics

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Are you in or out?

darkpagandeath

Is this a new version of im a Nigerian general with a lot of money i need to get out of the country ? please give me your account details and send me €80 to process the wire transfer ??

Dtp79

Why 100k??? Plenty of houses for 40-60k. The house doesn't have to be in Dublin ya know!!

Frank Lee Midere

MadsL wrote: »

US politics

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Are you in or out?

I'm out.

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MadsL

Frank Lee Midere wrote: »

I'm out.

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> US politically motivated fund raising.

Wtf? I'm not talking about buying US Soldiers houses in Ireland..

MadsL

Dtp79 wrote: »

Why 100k??? Plenty of houses for 40-60k. The house doesn't have to be in Dublin ya know!!

A house.

If we have to drop to 60k so be it.

I'm aiming at just getting a roof over someone's head.

MadsL

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Is this a new version of im a Nigerian general with a lot of money i need to get out of the country ? please give me your account details and send me €80 to process the wire transfer ??

No.

Established boardsie in house plea.

In or out?

EireGreg

MadsL wrote: »

Actually not a bad idea. Poor sods.

well i read as i say many others did about that man who killed himself i reckon his family could do with it

DARK-KNIGHT

MadsL wrote: »

Wtf? I'm not talking about buying US Soldiers houses in Ireland..

but why 100,000 as somebody said there are apartments and houses selling for 40,000?? are you gonna set up an official charity??? if your not then people are mad to contribute to this IMO

MadsL

EireGreg wrote: »

well i read as i say many others did about that man who killed himself i reckon his family could do with it

One option, but lets not go public on those yet. They cannot be discussed in a public forum. Keep that on the backburner for now.

Mint Sauce

I can see two outcomes.

1. Wreaked in a week.

or

2. Sky installed, 50 inch LCDs, wooden floors, and a state of the art kitchen.

Frank Lee Midere

MadsL wrote: »

Wtf? I'm not talking about buying US Soldiers houses in Ireland..

Right. I misread the post. Still no. Unlike the US Ireland has a large social welfare state which pays for people's housing for life.i believe about 40% of the population avail of it. I am in the private rental sector and yet pay 52% marginal to fund this. As well as capitalising the banks which have left buy to lettors off with 50% haircuts and, if I ever get a mortgage at retail rates I will be subsidising people in houses twice the price of mine at the same mortgage cost because they have tracker mortgages not available to me. The luck of the draw but still a subsidy.

I'm feeling I have done enough here.

MadsL

DARK-KNIGHT wrote: »

but why 100,000 as somebody said there are apartments and houses selling for 40,000?? are you gonna set up an official charity??? if your not then people are mad to contribute to this IMO

A bout the minumum I could see would be 90-100k in Dublin, elsewhere maybe we could funish it. We don't want to gift a headache of a property either.

Are you in now?

darkpagandeath

MadsL wrote: »

No.

Established boardsie in house plea.

In or out?

what's your registered charity id thing your supposed to have then i may donate ? will there be public accounts that we could see where and who the money goes? and that its not wasted on admin and wages ? or is it just send it to my paypal i will sort out the rest

MadsL

Frank Lee Midere wrote: »

Right. I misread the post. Still no. Unlike the US Ireland has a large social welfare state which pays for people's housing for life.i believe about 40% of the population avail of it. I am in the private rental sector and yet pay 52% marginal to fund this. As well as capitalising the banks which have left buy to lettors off with 50% haircuts and, if I ever get a mortgage at retail rates I will be subsidising people in houses twice the price of mine at the same mortgage cost because they have tracker mortgages not available now.

I'm feeling I have done enough here.

Grand.

Your choice.

Next.

DARK-KNIGHT

MadsL wrote: »

A bout the minumum I could see would be 90-100k in Dublin, elsewhere maybe we could funish it. We don't want to gift a headache of a property either.

Are you in now?

CHARITY ID? WILL THERE BE PROPER ACCOUNTS? ARE ALL FUNDS GOING TO COST OF HOUSE OR ARE YOU TAKING ANYTHING AT ALL FOR YOURSELF?

MadsL

darkpagandeath wrote: »

what's your registered charity id thing your supposed to have then i may donate ? will there be public accounts that we could see where and who the money goes? and that its not wasted on admin and wages ? or is it just send it to my paypal i will sort out the rest

Give me chance - I'm not asking for money, only a pledge. If things go well, we'll post on the legal and banking forum to get some advice on how to set this up easily and legally without a ton of fees.

Paypal is one option as is fundit. Although 5k in fees is steep for those kickstarter/fundit indiegogo type websites.

Anyone any ideas on a cheaper way?

Frank Lee Midere

MadsL wrote: »

Grand.

Your choice.

Next.

Ah no. The point of that post was to rubbish your entire proposal. As my situation would be common on boards.

We pay large personal taxes in this country to house everybody. The us doesn't even house veterans. It doesn't work like that here. We don't contribute to housing charities because the State is our contribution.

MadsL

DARK-KNIGHT wrote: »

CHARITY ID? WILL THERE BE PROPER ACCOUNTS? ARE ALL FUNDS GOING TO COST OF HOUSE OR ARE YOU TAKING ANYTHING AT ALL FOR YOURSELF?

I don't even want access to the money.

If we can get this sorted by the following method;

Fundit website or similar.
CC details given for pledge (to the broker not me)
We hit target.
CC charged
All funds transfered to seller (hoepfully we have an estate agent on boards who will verify/audit the sale)
Keys handed over.

We need to just spot the tax minefields.

MadsL

Frank Lee Midere wrote: »

Ah no. The point of that post was to rubbish your entire proposal. As my situation would be common on boards.

We pay large personal taxes in this country to house everybody. The us doesn't even house veterans. It doesn't work like that. We don't contribute to charity because the State is our contribution.

Look, go start another thread if you want an argument. I'm not biting.

Go derail this or something...http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057028378

UCDVet

darkpagandeath wrote: »

what's your registered charity id thing your supposed to have then i may donate ? will there be public accounts that we could see where and who the money goes? and that its not wasted on admin and wages ? or is it just send it to my paypal i will sort out the rest

Shhhhhhhhhh - don't you want to help????

MadsL

UCDVet wrote: »

Shhhhhhhhhh - don't you want to help????

Do you think I would start a scam on a 10 year old boards account with 12k posts? Seriously?

This is a take the temperature thread...and we are getting warmer.

catallus

It's a lovely fuzzy idea, MadsL. But what family in this country needs this kind of thing? It is impossible for any person in this country to be homeless, unless they actively choose to be.

darkpagandeath

MadsL wrote: »

Do you think I would start a scam on a 10 year old boards account with 12k posts? Seriously?

This is a take the temperature thread...and we are getting warmer.

yes!

you making out your account is worth the same price as the house you want to get someone? so there would be no reason for you to run off with the money.

MadsL

darkpagandeath wrote: »

yes!

you making out your account is worth the same price as the house you want to get someone? so there would be no reason for you to run off with the money.

How do propose I solve that trust issue? Have boards.ie as the beneficary? Would that help? Have the money rest in Micky Dolenz's account?

MadsL

catallus wrote: »

It's a lovely fuzzy idea, MadsL. But what family in this country needs this kind of thing? It is impossible for any person in this country to be homeless, unless they actively choose to be.

Why do they have to be homeless, why not just deserving?

Arawn

I deserve a free house.



Support the op guys!

darkpagandeath

MadsL wrote: »

How do propose I solve that trust issue? Have boards.ie as the beneficary? Would that help? Have the money rest in Micky Dolenz's account?

Nope how about just saying if you have a tenner lying around give it to the Vincent DePaul ? no need to start up anything then and everyone gets a warm fuzzy feeling about donating money to a charity.

MadsL

Arawn wrote: »

I deserve a free house.



Support the op guys!

Are you in for €10 then?

MadsL

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Nope how about just saying if you have a tenner lying around give it to the Vincent DePaul ? no need to start up anything then and everyone gets a warm fuzzy feeling about donating money to a charity.

Where's the fun in that?

How mad would it be to give someone a house...why NOT do it. What an amazing thing for a bunch of basement dwellers to accomplish.

B.A._Baracus

Baseball game?
MadsL?

YOU ARE IN AMERICA?!?! ... Then why do you post so much on boards.ie!? :pac:

Arawn

MadsL wrote: »

Are you in for €10 then?

thought you said you'd give a free house.



Now its a raffle?? where i have to pay in??

MadsL

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

Baseball game?
MadsL?

YOU ARE IN AMERICA?!?! ... Then why do you post so much on boards.ie!? :pac:

My undying sense that boardsies are amazing.

Don't disappoint...are you in?

Royal.Baby

If everyone gave a tenner we could all buy 3 flagons of cider from Aldi, meet in a big field and have karaoke party or something like that

darkpagandeath

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

Baseball game?
MadsL?

YOU ARE IN AMERICA?!?! ... Then why do you post so much on boards.ie!? :pac:

Nope he's been living under a bridge for too long i think. As he's clearly not one of the Billy goats gruff

MadsL

Arawn wrote: »

thought you said you'd give a free house.



Now its a raffle?? where i have to pay in??

After Hours, not reading the OP since 2001.

MadsL

Royal.Baby wrote: »

If everyone gave a tenner we could all buy 3 flagons of cider from Aldi, meet in a big field and have karaoke party or something like that

I see you have been to a boards beers before.

Artful_Badger

MadsL wrote: »

You are right.

They live there for nothing then. Are you volunteering to play landlord and fix everything, because I sure as hell am not.

Keys. Job done as long as there are no tax implications.

Nobody needs to own a house, if you want to help people struggling to keep a roof over their head you could pay someones rent or pay a contribution to many families rent or mortgage. Its a giveaway anyway so whats it matter whether its a house or 100k cash ? You could give 20 struggling families 5k each which would go a hell of a long way for them, hell even 100 families getting a month or two's rent would be an immense help.

But something tells me you're more interested in giving away a house because you seen it at a baseball game rather than looking for a way to help people who need help. So no I wont be contributing to it.

twinytwo

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

WTF has Afghanistan got to do with us ??

US spends one trillion dollars on "defence" a year

The US army has a budget of $523,000 for each of it's active personnel per year https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Armed_Forces

The problem is nothing to do with lack of money, it's just how it's prioritised.

lookup the % of homeless people that were ex-servicemen




Or look at it another way during the recession the net income of three months of the top 100 richest people in the world would end world poverty. THE PROBLEM IS NOT A LACK OF MONEY, JUST THE DISTRIBUTION.

http://www.oxfam.org/en/pressroom/pressrelease/2013-01-19/annual-income-richest-100-people-enough-end-global-poverty-four-times


poor people helping each other just means the super rich don't have to

well them Nuclear aircraft carriers, ICBM's and trident missiles dont look after themselves like.. A single B2 Spirit costs a billion dollars... america gots to have its toys.

Pawwed Rig

I'm in for a tenner. I will give 20 if I can have the house

A couple of people were asking about tax. There would be zero tax liability as you can receive €3000 tax free from each person per annum. As noone would be donating more than €3,000 there is no liability.
The legislation never thought of situations like this for some reason.

I'd back a Priory Hall family too

Arawn

MadsL wrote: »

After Hours, not reading the OP since 2001.

Member since 03...commenting on forum two years before you joined.


You said feel good by giving someone deserving a house.


I deserve one