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[DISCUSSION] Let's just give a family a house.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,097 ✭✭✭Dtp79


    Why is everyone pulling against the OP. His ( I presume ) idea is a great idea. Why can't us begrudging Irish just get behind the idea and see it through to the end. Only good can come from it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    MadsL wrote: »
    I was at a baseball game last night, and a wounded veteran was called out on the field with his family. He lost a leg in Afghanistan after an IED explored. A construction company donated a house to him and his family and he now gets to live mortgage free.

    There are 613,742 accounts on boards.ie, the current most viewed thread on boards has over 8,000 replies. We easily have the ability to put a family in need of help into a 3 bed house for €10 each if 10,000 of us stand together.

    I'm sure everyone is feeling the pinch, but how about if someone didn't have to emigrate, or see themselves out on the street, or end up living with relatives?

    Could boards do this, and have the satisfaction of saying "Yeah, that house, we gave it to that family" I'm sure Santa Strike Force has come across someone who needs this and can suggest the family we do it for.

    I'm in. We can do this by Christmas.

    I pledge €10.

    Who's with me?

    Personally I would rather help raise money for two very special houses that will help a lot of families http://www.clicsargent.org.uk/content/northern-ireland-appeal


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,829 ✭✭✭Nemeses


    Why not offer one of your rooms OP?

    Charity begins at home...in this case.. me.


    I've a lot of debt to clear.


    No interest.


    Edit: To actually not sound like a prick...

    Nil Se agam.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Pawwed Rig wrote: »
    I'm in for a tenner.

    Awesome. We are at €99,830 to go. I think. I'll double check - I think we need a pledge thread.
    Arawn wrote: »
    I deserve one

    Now you just have convince the rest of us. Like an amp test if you will..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 484 ✭✭guppy


    I'm sorry, I can't read all of the thread first, so I'm not sure if this has been said before.

    This is a great idea! We should all do it. Everyone with any "handy" talent should help out first. They should lay foundations. Then bricklayers should come in next. Electricians would be useful, as would plumbers, etc.

    Eventually we'll all have a home to live in without needing to pay a penny to anyone (I will be willing to provide food, drink, tools and materials for the workers).

    So, whats the downside?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Personally I would rather help raise money for two very special houses that will help a lot of families http://www.clicsargent.org.uk/content/northern-ireland-appeal

    That's great. Please everyone donate to it.

    But if you still have a tenner after, why not have a bit if craic making an thread into a house.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,217 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    MadsL wrote: »
    My undying sense that boardsies are amazing.

    Don't disappoint...are you in?

    Being perfectly honest, I have an issue with giving people money who I dont know and over the internet. Call me a traditional :pac:

    But in all seriousness, imagine if boards.ie actually ran a charity pledge to help someone in need gain a house. Talk about advertising for the website. Sheesh. Every paper and website would mention it (Note to boards if in that event give me credit? :confused: ) lol.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    guppy wrote: »
    I'm sorry, I can't read all of the thread first, so I'm not sure if this has been said before.

    This is a great idea! We should all do it. Everyone with any "handy" talent should help out first. They should lay foundations. Then bricklayers should come in next. Electricians would be useful, as would plumbers, etc.

    Eventually we'll all have a home to live in without needing to pay a penny to anyone (I will be willing to provide food, drink, tools and materials for the workers).

    So, whats the downside?


    Planning permission for a 10,000 bed house.

    We are just paying for the house, easiest least complicated way.

    Would you like to pledge a tenner?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,829 ✭✭✭Nemeses


    MadsL wrote: »
    Awesome. We are at €99,830 to go.

    Whoa! What houses are you looking at??


    Maybe I should be a consultant for house buying! Count me in as House Buying management.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,871 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    MadsL wrote: »
    Awesome. We are at €99,830 to go. I think. I'll double check - I think we need a pledge thread.



    Now you just have convince the rest of us. Like an amp test if you will..

    It took 14 pages and 200 posts to get 16 people to join up. This thread could turn into a record breaker.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Being perfectly honest, I have an issue with giving people money who I dont know and over the internet. Call me a traditional :pac:

    But in all seriousness, imagine if boards.ie actually ran a charity pledge to help someone in need gain a house. Talk about advertising for the website. Sheesh. Every paper and website would mention it (Note to boards if in that event give me credit? :confused: ) lol.

    So lets do it.

    I'll put in sound audited controls and promise never to have access to the money.

    We can surely get a way to run it through a charity account.

    It's a simple idea, it might just work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    It took 14 pages and 200 posts to get 16 people to join up. This thread could turn into a record breaker.

    How many pages before you sign up?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5 gitchin


    Brilliant MadsL, I like your style. €10 easy decision, I'M IN!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,084 ✭✭✭✭Kirby


    gitchin wrote: »
    Brilliant MadsL, I like your style. €10 easy decision, I'M IN!!

    Member since 2009 and has a grand total of four posts..........

    You're a picky fecker aren't you? Takes a special thread to get you to post obviously :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5 gitchin


    yeah its an annual event for me... Damn nothing for 2014 now...


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 279 ✭✭thomur


    I'd back a Priory Hall family too[/QUOTE]

    That's a great idea


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    gitchin wrote: »
    Brilliant MadsL, I like your style. €10 easy decision, I'M IN!!

    Cheers

    €99,820 to go.

    Whose will be next, and in the first 100 hall of fame :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    thomur wrote: »
    I'd back a Priory Hall family too

    That's a great idea

    Did you pledge already...trying to keep track?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,871 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    MadsL wrote: »
    How many pages before you sign up?

    I'm thinking about it. But you will really have to set up that account. No good having €1000 or €2000 in pledges and then the whole thing petering out which could happen. That would make me think it was not a serious venture and that people were only pledging to make themeselves look good and they have no real expectation of ever being asked for the actual cash.

    Also you have demonstrated very thorough legal knowledge in various fields in other threads so you should be able to research the legal aspects for this project. I know you were only prompted to the idea a day ago but it is most important that you establish that it does not contravene any law here. I have to leave it to you as the originator of the idea to guarantee that. And what had you in mind when your wrote this? We need to just spot the tax minefields.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 279 ✭✭thomur


    MadsL wrote: »
    Did you pledge already...trying to keep track?

    Count me in


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,124 ✭✭✭joe swanson


    Meh. Donating to a charity would be better. I see plenty of pitfalls in your proposals. Eg how do you ppick the beneficiaries, tax, legalities.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    I'm thinking about it. But you will really have to set up that account. No good having €1000 or €2000 in pledges and then the whole thing petering out which could happen. That would make me think it was not a serious venture and that people were only pledging to make themeselves look good and they have no real expectation of ever being asked for the actual cash.

    Also you have demonstrated very thorough legal knowledge in various fields in other threads so you should be able to research the legal aspects for this project. I know you were only prompted to the idea a day ago but it is most important that you establish that it does not contravene any law here. I have to leave it to you as the originator of the idea to guarantee that. And what had you in mind when your wrote this? We need to just spot the tax minefields.

    Ah you are coming round.

    But this thread needs legs, if we have 2k-3k pledged can realistically ask the mods for things like stickies and a hosted private forum for pledgees to bash out the details and who will be the recipient. I must say that a Priory Hall victim could be a good idea and that could be completely randomised.

    This thread is to build credibility. I will call fundit monday and see can they cap their fees, and look into the legal side on the legal forums and tax on the tax forums tomorrow.

    In the meantime keep the pledges coming.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    thomur wrote: »
    Count me in

    €99,810...another tenner to the next milestone.

    Fair play thomur.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,097 ✭✭✭Dtp79


    Is there some kinda "poll" thingy that we can click that'll count our pledge????


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 265 ✭✭FueledbyCoffee


    Go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on GO ON !!!

    I'm in too - back the Priory Hall suggestion too

    Great idea


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 443 ✭✭Elbaston


    I don't see any unique appeal in fixing 1 big problem for 1 family/person.

    This 1 act would inevitably come at the expense of many other small donations to many people.

    (If I give a tenner today for this (mystery project) - naturally Im less likely to give a tenner elsewhere tomorrow)

    So while you might have one moment of glory for that 1 guy, 1000 others out there miss out on their food parcel, solar panel, water well, goat lol ... or whatever, at a future point. Just how it works unfortunately.

    There are so many long established, well functioning, reputable local charities out there - experienced in their own diverse fields of expertise.
    (some im sure with projects running right now that you can help and watch)


    They have the experience, skills, and management in place to best use any money that comes in.

    Although it may not have the same satisfaction level as being able to point to a deed and say 'hey thats thanks to me' - a small donation will probably be used more efficiently by a reputable experienced charity.

    They're more likely to be able to target the money appropriately for the best effect, they tend to carefully study where to spend.

    ...and will probably be able to take advantage of efficiency of scale for blankets, food and the like. Effectively more bang for your buck ... :)

    In Ireland, the likes of SVDP or the Simon community are dedicated, local, reliable, established and would be the safest bet for the best - most efficient and best targeted - use of those tenners.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,695 ✭✭✭December2012


    Ill give a tenner too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    What's this about?
    Read this thread. before posting below.

    Pledges only below please. No discussion if possible (please, this is just for counting).

    I like the idea, I would give 100 euros if I could.
    mattjack wrote: »
    I pledge a doorbell and a radiator.

    your welcome.
    Dtp79 wrote: »
    I'm in anyway. but there's alot of details need sorting before ya can ask people to donate. Maybe if these details were sorted ya wouldn't be getting negative feedback.
    my my my wrote: »
    i'll do it too,
    hansfrei wrote: »
    Count me in.
    vitani wrote: »
    count me in.
    I'm in.

    That's €80, a door bell and a radiator so far...
    I'm grudgingly in...
    Jennii. wrote: »
    Not everybody without a house is just trying to scam money.
    I, for example am in full time education, trying to support my baby girl and my boyfriend is desperately searching for work and being turned down at every opportunity. We HATE looking like fools who just want everybodys hard earned money, we have pride and we just wish we could make it ourselves!

    This thread, and the kind people who would actually do this for the poor, genuine families who really need the help, would have been of a huge help to us last year when we couldn't even afford milk!
    I would of course pledge €10. I'm doing a lot better and even though we still don't get much money, I would happily give what I can to help someone who is where I was last year!

    Good on ya for starting this thread!
    Yamanoto wrote: »
    I'm in if that phrase 'stand together' goes.

    Done.
    The house should be given to a family called the Peterson's.
    Seaneh wrote: »
    I'm in for a tenner.
    EireGreg wrote: »
    im in 100 percent, smashing idea fair play, all the negativity is unbelievable serious its only a tenner and would change a family in need for the better regardless
    Doom wrote: »
    I'll pledge €10....as long as its not a scumbag or travellers
    TheTorment wrote: »
    I'm in too.

    Nice idea OP.
    Yeah go on ill throw in a Tenner.
    Pawwed Rig wrote: »
    I'm in for a tenner. I will give 20 if I can have the house
    gitchin wrote: »
    Brilliant MadsL, I like your style. €10 easy decision, I'M IN!!
    thomur wrote: »
    Count me in
    Go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on GO ON !!!

    I'm in too - back the Priory Hall suggestion too

    Great idea

    Right €200 and a doorbell and a radiator.

    €99,800 to go..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Ill give a tenner too.

    Good on ya


    PLEDGES ON THE OTHER THREAD NOW PLEASE!!

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=86296658#post86296658


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,097 ✭✭✭Dtp79


    Op bring the price down to a realistic 60k. 100k would buy a mansion in this current time


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Ill give a tenner too.

    Good on ya


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,783 ✭✭✭RidleyRider


    Great idea. If you sort out details of how this happens etc.. I'd more than gladly chip in. Promise naked mods.. Worked for SSF :P


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,631 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    Get this done properly and I'm in


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,689 ✭✭✭Karl Stein


    Is this about you?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,466 ✭✭✭Clandestine


    Its a nice idea, but completely unfeasible man. This won't work, and you're better to put your money elsewhere. Why not give to a decent Irish charity at least?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,034 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    EdenHazard himself would be proud of the narcissism in this thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Its a nice idea, but completely unfeasible man. This won't work, and you're better to put your money elsewhere. Why not give to a decent Irish charity at least?

    Pfft - its a tenner, if this doesn't happen I'll give it elsewhere. Hell, name a charity I'll donate a tenner right now to keep you happy. Which one?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,466 ✭✭✭Clandestine


    MadsL wrote: »
    Pfft - its a tenner, if this doesn't happen I'll give it elsewhere. Hell, name a charity I'll donate a tenner right now to keep you happy. Which one?
    Simon Community?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,366 ✭✭✭✭Kylo Ren


    Who is going to get the house? How will you pick the candidate?

    Can I be the candidate?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 443 ✭✭Elbaston


    Its a nice idea, but completely unfeasible man. This won't work, and you're better to put your money elsewhere. Why not give to a decent Irish charity at least?

    100%

    List of charity Projects in Ireland - 20+ pages.

    https://www.idonate.ie/search-charity.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Simon Community?

    They don't take paypal.

    PM me your email address and I'll send you €10 to put in the donation box.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,466 ✭✭✭Clandestine


    MadsL wrote: »
    They don't take paypal.

    PM me your email address and I'll send you €10 to put in the donation box.
    Er yeah.. the donation box ...of course....

    :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 133 ✭✭theGEM


    I'll fap into a jar for a month and give it to you if that's of any use to the pledge??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Elbaston wrote: »
    100%

    List of charity Projects in Ireland - 20+ pages.

    https://www.idonate.ie/search-charity.html

    OK, give your tenner to them. Or give them a tenner and pledge this a tenner.

    I don't really care what you do thanks, either get behind it and pledge or don't.

    All this "you're doing it wrong" is pointless.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Er yeah.. the donation box ...of course....

    :)

    I trust you.

    Got a paypal?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 443 ✭✭Elbaston


    Pledge -

    ¥9513.38

    + ₡42,000


    and ₹913


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,783 ✭✭✭RidleyRider


    Elbaston wrote: »
    Pledge -

    ¥9513.38

    About 4euro?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 443 ✭✭Elbaston


    About 4euro?

    For a turban washer/dryer


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,466 ✭✭✭Clandestine


    MadsL wrote: »
    I trust you.

    Got a paypal?
    definitelynotanigerianprince@aol.com


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 443 ✭✭Elbaston


    MadsL wrote: »
    OK, give your tenner to them. Or give them a tenner and pledge this a tenner.

    I don't really care what you do thanks, either get behind it and pledge or don't.

    All this "you're doing it wrong" is pointless.


    Well its kind of important to get it right.

    Im just suggesting established charities with a record of successes and dedicated volunteers and staff, over a forum whim with no established plan and non-backed "donations" from anonymous individuals.


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