Man your pumps, Wetherspoons are coming

AlmightyCushion

revz wrote: »

From Twitter. That's cheap. Wonder what the guest ales at €2.50 are?

Those are great prices. Hopefully, they make their way to Sligo soon.

StopWatch

Ravenid wrote: »

Has anyone actually confirmed if the Silver Tassie in Loghlinstown was bought by Wetherspoons?

They are closed for renovation at the moment, is that Wetherspoons starting to work or are we looking at another attempt to do it up?

Nothing to do with Wetherspoons.
Its going to be a high end wine bar/ restaurant

And most likely a failure

Ravelleman

The €2.50 guest ales represent a 50c price increase from the last time I was there, though that was due to overstock, I understand. That being said, I welcome the overall price decrease.

coylemj

They were announcing new food items on Twitter earlier today - BBQ Hog burger and a Philly Cheese Steak sandwich but the menu on the website hasn't been updated

Meet our new BBQ Hog Burger! Now available on our new menu!
Introducing the Philly Cheese Steak sandwich! Now available on our new menu!

irish_goat

Got a sample of the Philly "cheese" steak on Wednesday there. The thing itself was just ok and I've put cheese in inverted commas for a reason there. I don't mind most of the spoon's food but I'd not recommend this one anyway.

Big Nasty

Let's face it, the food is mediocre.

It's the beer we go for.

BeerNut

The beer looks pretty sub-mediocre to me. No new happy price for the Six Point cans; none of the Lagunitas or Devil's Backbone beers they've introduced to the UK.

Ravelleman

BeerNut wrote: »

The beer looks pretty sub-mediocre to me. No new happy price for the Six Point cans; none of the Lagunitas or Devil's Backbone beers they've introduced to the UK.

Depends on what guest ales they have going on any given day, I guess. That would make the difference for me.

In light of what you say it might be a bit disappointing but the same stuff for cheaper is hardly bad. I do quite enjoy Beamish, especially for €2.50. Shipyard is also daecent for under €3.

Geuze

I think these are substantial price changes.

Beamish 3.95 to 2.50 - a 36% price cut - this is so cheap for south Dublin, I find it difficult to believe

Murphy's 3.95 to 2.95 - 25% off


Heineken, Staropramen, Shipyard PA - reduced from 4.75 / 4.95 to 2.95 - that's a 42% price cut.


As I write this, I simply can't believe these prices are permanent............

Given 23% VAT here vs 20% in UK, and given rents/property costs/overheads, how can they do it???


Huge purchasing power? Maybe........


But why not these prices from opening day???

Lucena

Maybe they decided to run for a couple of months with 'normal' prices to see how business went. If they got a lot of business, then they didn't need to use their UK model of low prices. If business was slow, no worries, they have loads of money behind them and I'm sure that this first site is being studied carefully before they roll out the next pubs.
It's also easier, in terms of public image, to start out too high and then come down as opposed to the other way round.

Marcusm

irish_goat wrote: »

Got a sample of the Philly "cheese" steak on Wednesday there. The thing itself was just ok and I've put cheese in inverted commas for a reason there. I don't mind most of the spoon's food but I'd not recommend this one anyway.

If you'd had it in Phildelphia, you'd have to put "cheese" in inverted commas too; wizz, I believe is the colloquial term.

Big Nasty

Spoons entry pub here is reasonably priced with nice decor and fairly decent clientele. I'd say the idea was to set themselves up this way with intention of defining themselves as a considerable cut above what we might have expected from a Spoons: cheap drink and cheaper clentele in a sticky carpet and poker machine environment.

Now that they've won us over they can release their true pricing structure and make a serious dent in local trade.

adamski8

Lucena wrote: »

Maybe they decided to run for a couple of months with 'normal' prices to see how business went. If they got a lot of business, then they didn't need to use their UK model of low prices. If business was slow, no worries, they have loads of money behind them and I'm sure that this first site is being studied carefully before they roll out the next pubs.
It's also easier, in terms of public image, to start out too high and then come down as opposed to the other way round.

I think it also might have to do with loads of more pubs here opening and now they have better deals in place for the future pubs and hence lower costs where they can now afford to lower prices.

BaZmO*

Or it's all of the above, combined with a sh1tload of free advertisement? Those prices won't go unreported.

Blut2

They're absolutely fantastic prices! Wetherspooon's expansion can't come fast enough. Once theres a few places dotted around the city center serving at those prices it'll put serious pressure on other pubs, hopefully.

Ravelleman

BaZmO* wrote: »

Or it's all of the above, combined with a sh1tload of free advertisement? Those prices won't go unreported.

Yes, the likes of the Journal can monetise anything as long as it generates a few clicks.

slayerking

Amazed how cheap it is out here! Shipyard APA on draft 1.99, cask 2.50. No Irish cask on unfortunately, but still. Crazy prices. How is this sustainable.

BMJD

are they not serving 8 Degrees Knockmealdown Porter any longer?

slayerking

BMJD wrote: »

are they not serving 8 Degrees Knockmealdown Porter any longer?

They had bottles in the fridge with the rest of the 8 degrees stuff. Didnt see it on draft though.

corkonion

Strange that wetherspoons purchased their second Irish premises in Ireland in December 2013 but have not even started to prepare it for opening, though they originally announced a Nov 2014 launch. The old Newport bar in Cork was bought just one month after their initial blackrock purchase. They recently announced that they have purchased a second Cork pub, but no details of where that is..

Geuze

Some delays with the Cork site, there may be more info over in the Cork forum.

SteeveeDee

BeerNut wrote: »

The beer looks pretty sub-mediocre to me. No new happy price for the Six Point cans; none of the Lagunitas or Devil's Backbone beers they've introduced to the UK.

I was there on Friday by chance and had no knowledge of the new pricing. I was happily surprised!

Anyhow you'll be happy to know all cask ale is 2.50

Devil's backbone is on tap at 2.95 and is lovely indeed.

Six Point cans and 8 Degrees bottles are 2.49

and finally whiskey is a decent price at 3.95 for Jameson or Powers.

SteeveeDee

BeerNut wrote: »

The beer looks pretty sub-mediocre to me. No new happy price for the Six Point cans; none of the Lagunitas or Devil's Backbone beers they've introduced to the UK.

I was there on Friday by chance and had no knowledge of the new pricing. I was happily surprised!

Anyhow you'll be happy to know all cask ale is 2.50

Devil's backbone is on tap at 2.95 and is lovely indeed.

Six Point cans and 8 Degrees bottles are 2.49

and finally whiskey is a decent price at 3.95 for Jameson or Powers.

SteeveeDee

BeerNut wrote: »

The beer looks pretty sub-mediocre to me. No new happy price for the Six Point cans; none of the Lagunitas or Devil's Backbone beers they've introduced to the UK.

I was there on Friday by chance and had no knowledge of the new pricing. I was happily surprised!

Anyhow you'll be happy to know all cask ale is 2.50

Devil's backbone is on tap at 2.95 and is lovely indeed.

Six Point cans and 8 Degrees bottles are 2.49

and finally whiskey is a decent price at 3.95 for Jameson or Powers.

Earendil

I think Steeveedee was in there on friday lads.

AdMMM

Earendil wrote: »

I think Steeveedee was in there on friday lads.

I'm so tired, I still read each post individually!

Geuze

SteeveeDee wrote: »

I was there on Friday by chance and had no knowledge of the new pricing. I was happily surprised!

Anyhow you'll be happy to know all cask ale is 2.50

Devil's backbone is on tap at 2.95 and is lovely indeed.

Six Point cans and 8 Degrees bottles are 2.49

and finally whiskey is a decent price at 3.95 for Jameson or Powers.

It's a pity the new menu only displays some products.

It doesn't mention the new spirits prices, for example.

Geuze

http://www.jdwetherspoon.ie/pdf/irish_menu.pdf

Just found new menu.

Ok, so a double Power's or Jameson is now 5.95, that's an effective price of 3.00 per 35.5ml measure.

A double G&T is 5.95 - at last some value, this is what we have been waiting for.

I don't drink this stuff, but I hated to see prices like 10 euro for a double G&T.


Bottles of wine are from 13 - 14.50, this is what we need to get people out to pubs.

330/355ml bottles are now 2.45 - Lord, have we waited for this.

To see pubs charging 4.50-5.00 for a 33cl bottle, which is 1.00-1.50 in a supermarket - CRAZY.

Now we can pay a sensible 2.45 for a 33cl bottle.

Geuze

BeerNut wrote: »

The beer looks pretty sub-mediocre to me. No new happy price for the Six Point cans; none of the Lagunitas or Devil's Backbone beers they've introduced to the UK.

Six Point cans = 2.45 for 355ml

Devil's Backbone American IPA = 2.95 per pint

Happy prices!!

cruhoortwunk

€2.45 for Goose Island is cheaper than the off licenses. Porter house in town charges about €6.50 for it.

irish_goat

cruhoortwunk wrote: »

€2.45 for Goose Island is cheaper than the off licenses.

This is how I view Wetherspoons up here. It's cheaper to buy pints in the bar than go next door into Tesco and buy the beer in bottle.

kooga

serious reductions i kept the old menu

beamish down from 3.95 to 2.50
heineken down from 4.75 to 2.95

staropramen down 2 euro to 2.95

realistic prices.....................now open in cork please

JONJO THE MISER

Big Nasty wrote: »

Spoons entry pub here is reasonably priced with nice decor and fairly decent clientele. I'd say the idea was to set themselves up this way with intention of defining themselves as a considerable cut above what we might have expected from a Spoons: cheap drink and cheaper clentele in a sticky carpet and poker machine environment.

Now that they've won us over they can release their true pricing structure and make a serious dent in local trade.

Yes i think they made prices high as first so as not to have undesirables getting a foothold there, now that they have a good crowd of respectable regulars it will be hard for scumbags to get them shifted.

MadYaker

Are they planning on opening one in Galway?

BaZmO*

And there ya have it, The Journal going with the story.

delahuntv

Even a quick glance would suggest that these prices are not possible long term combined with decent service.

Whilst i'm not in the pub game, I am in retail and what will happen is prices will drop, but so will wages, jobs and service. Service in wetherspoons in the UK is utter crap.

A huge operation like wetherspoons can do this for a year or more - but it will kill many decent pubs and then prices will rise. (check their UK prices in areas they don;t have competition)

As I live in a nice rural location with decent local that serves quality pints and service and great chat, thankfully it is protected from this race to the bottom.

On the flip side - all the skangers will go to wetherspoons and decent pubs will thrive.

Ronan|Raven

delahuntv wrote: »

Even a quick glance would suggest that these prices are not possible long term combined with decent service.

Whilst i'm not in the pub game, I am in retail and what will happen is prices will drop, but so will wages, jobs and service. Service in wetherspoons in the UK is utter crap.

A huge operation like wetherspoons can do this for a year or more - but it will kill many decent pubs and then prices will rise. (check their UK prices in areas they don;t have competition)

As I live in a nice rural location with decent local that serves quality pints and service and great chat, thankfully it is protected from this race to the bottom.

On the flip side - all the skangers will go to wetherspoons and decent pubs will thrive.

Like the "decent" pubs who will still serve up pints of the regular beers with no alternative? I would sooner endure the "skanger" filled Wetherspoons and have a pint of something on cask or a pint of the likes of Shipyard rather than pay my 5euro for a pint of sub zero lager in some the "traditional" pubs.

Pinch Flat

http://entertainment.ie/life/Here-is-the-full-price-list-for-Weatherspoons-here-in-Ireland/298470.htm

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coylemj

Massive price reductions are normally what you do when you open a new pub, not several months later. Clearly this is about getting more bums on seats and stools and the numbers through the door so far haven't met expectations.

I've been there twice so far, I was a bit surprised at the calibre of some of the staff, notably one person behind the counter whom I won't identify with any description but given the level of unemployment in the country at the moment, I was expecting that the standard of staff would be much higher than what I encountered. Doesn't say much for the wages they're paying and/or their selection criteria.

cormacjones

coylemj wrote: »

Massive price reductions are normally what you do when you open a new pub, not several months later. Clearly this is about getting more bums on seats and stools and the numbers through the door so far haven't met expectations.

I've been there twice so far, I was a bit surprised at the calibre of some of the staff, notably one person behind the counter whom I won't identify with any description but given the level of unemployment in the country at the moment, I was expecting that the standard of staff would be much higher than what I encountered. Doesn't say much for the wages they're paying and/or their selection criteria.

I had the exact same experience there. The staff didn't seem to have a clue.

I also agree that the price cuts are probably just an effort to increase turnover.

irish_goat

delahuntv wrote: »

Even a quick glance would suggest that these prices are not possible long term combined with decent service.

Whilst i'm not in the pub game, I am in retail and what will happen is prices will drop, but so will wages, jobs and service. Service in wetherspoons in the UK is utter crap.

A quick glance at what exactly? Their prices in the north have stayed low in the 8 years I've been going to them anyway.

And barstaff tend to get paid minimum wage so their pay can't drop any lower. Service is a lot of English pubs is crap, I don't think you can blame Wetherspoons for that.

the beer revolu

cormacjones wrote: »

I also agree that the price cuts are probably just an effort to increase turnover.

What a strange thing for a business to do!

There was me thinking the price cuts were a costly public service they were engaging in.

SteeveeDee

Earendil wrote: »

I think Steeveedee was in there on friday lads.

Haha. Faultering internet or tremulous fingers to blame!

cormacjones

the beer revolu wrote: »

What a strange thing for a business to do!

There was me thinking the price cuts were a costly public service they were engaging in.

Stay classy. You're really showing your true level there.

the beer revolu

cormacjones wrote: »

Stay classy. You're really showing your true level there.

Sarcasm?
Pot and kettle springs to mind!

cormacjones

the beer revolu wrote: »

Sarcasm?
Pot and kettle springs to mind!

I don't want to drag this thread any further off topic, so I'll leave this now. It's not fair to the other posters on this thread who are interested in discussing Wetherspoons.

BaZmO*

Both of you drop it

irish_goat

Really enjoying the Devils Backbone IPA, only gripe is the serving temperature. I'm never one to normally complain about beer temperature but it's coming out ridiculously cold. It must be hooked up to the "ice cold" chiller. Definitely one of the coldest pints I've had in years.

BeerNut

I noticed that when I was at the Blackrock one: all the keg beers made my teeth hurt.

irish_goat

All beers treated equally, I assume.

Craft beer menu now looks like.