Deadline Day Thread

~Rebel~

EdenHazard wrote: »

Big fan of McCarthy(who will be underrated by so many on here because he's not a signing from La Liga) but a 13.5 centre mids team should not be getting relegated imo.

Roy Keane got relegated with Forest at around the same age.

EdenHazard

Paully D wrote: »

You can't have a dig by saying he'll be underrated by many on here and then in your very next sentence basically say that he's overpriced as he didn't single-handedly keep his team up.

Not something I really think but perhaps it could be an argument against his fee, tbh all things considered its pretty much what he should be worth.

Insect Overlord

Hope Nick Powell gets plenty of game time in midfield for Wigan now.

swoody

think this was last summers window, it's your man that told the pool fans to shssssss earlier.

miralize

Rayne Wooney

Occupation: Fúcker

Made my sides hurt :pac:

swoody

poor fella's out of a job now and thx fúck for that.

Seaneh

JPA wrote: »

Not really, how much better is he than say Ashley Westwood? Similar player.
£13 million is actually insanity for a cash strapped club. That money should be spent on match winners.

They aren't cash strapped though.
Before a ball was kicked this year they were £40 million richer than last year, then they sold Screech for £27m and Anachebie for £5m, that's so that's £70m there that they could afford to spend on transfers without effecting their balance sheets compared to last year.

It's not like they are broke.

Richard Hillman

I noticed they didn't have anyone around Stoke today. I think Sky will change the way they operate on deadline days after todays goings on. It was definitely the worst I have seen since deadline day has become a big event.

They had to stop filming outside Carrington and moved the guy from Melwood to Anfield. There were a few other incidents where they moved at Crystal Palace, Sunderland, Arsenal and Everton.

Nothing really happened today at Liverpool but Carrington was the important one (although Fellaini didnt actually go to Carrington apparently). Seeing people arrive at the grounds is a big part of the excitement of the day but was taken away because of the local chavs.

A few clubs like Everton, Palace and West Brom seem to have accommodated the reporters somewhere else after incidents. Hopefully during the next window we see the reporters in places that are less accessible to the public. Nobody enjoys seeing all the hood rats making gestures and shouting things they think are funny. It spoils the enjoyment for everybody at home. It makes it uncomfortable viewing.

I think it is important that we as viewers complain about the goings on.

Seaneh

Smithwicks Man wrote: »

In terms of what?

£11M for Carlos Tevez is a very good deal

£13.5m for McCarthy is getting the job done, despite paying over the odds. Not an "amazing" deal by any stretch of the imagination imo

Tevez is (a) knocking on 30, (b) on insane wages, (c)had one year left on his contract and (d) a player his club wanted rid of.

Comparing the two transfers if daft.

smellmepower

Lot of money leaving the EPL in comparison to it's rivals.

Premiership OUT: £610.2m IN: £188.4m MINUS £421.8m
La Liga OUT: £336m IN: 432m PLUS £96.4m
Serie A OUT: £334m IN: £345m PLUS £10.9m
Ligue 1 OUT: £314m IN: £184m MINUS £130.2m
Russian Liga OUT: £239m IN: £223m MINUS £16.1m
Bundesliga OUT: £231.6m IN: £179.8m MINUS £51.7m

Pj!

smellmepower wrote: »

Lot of money leaving the EPL in comparison to it's rivals.

£610m out can't be right can it?

GTR63

Pj! wrote: »

£610m out can't be right can it?

Pretty sure they spent about that.

WoollyRedHat

GTR63 wrote: »

Pretty sure they spent about that.

Spurs alone spent around 88m, Arsenal 44m and thats just for starters.

Beefy78

Those figures are wrong. Total spend was less than £600m and a lot of that stayed in England.

Also it's ridiculous when people compare transfer fees as if that's the only cost of a transfer, as people were a couple of pages back. The wage is at least as important.

simongurnick

Richard Hillman wrote: »

I noticed they didn't have anyone around Stoke today. I think Sky will change the way they operate on deadline days after todays goings on. It was definitely the worst I have seen since deadline day has become a big event.

They had to stop filming outside Carrington and moved the guy from Melwood to Anfield. There were a few other incidents where they moved at Crystal Palace, Sunderland, Arsenal and Everton.

Nothing really happened today at Liverpool but Carrington was the important one (although Fellaini didnt actually go to Carrington apparently). Seeing people arrive at the grounds is a big part of the excitement of the day but was taken away because of the local chavs.

A few clubs like Everton, Palace and West Brom seem to have accommodated the reporters somewhere else after incidents. Hopefully during the next window we see the reporters in places that are less accessible to the public. Nobody enjoys seeing all the hood rats making gestures and shouting things they think are funny. It spoils the enjoyment for everybody at home. It makes it uncomfortable viewing.

I think it is important that we as viewers complain about the goings on.

Down with that sort of thing.

kryogen

Isnt it odd that transfermarket, who are normally pretty reliable don't have Bales fee down as a world record one, they have it as 80.03 million

Gringo180

kryogen wrote: »

Isnt it odd that transfermarket, who are normally pretty reliable don't have Bales fee down as a world record one, they have it as 80.03 million

Id say its Sky talking bollocks again.

kryogen

Gringo180 wrote: »

Id say its Sky talking bollocks again.

Dunno, just found it odd is all. Do either of the clubs have to declare the actual transfer fee?

Gringo180

kryogen wrote: »

Dunno, just found it odd is all. Do either of the clubs have to declare the actual transfer fee?

I honestly couldnt tell ye mate. But you would think they would considering it could be a world record fee.

kryogen

Spurs definitely wouldn't afaik, they are a private company, not sure about Madrid though

Richard Hillman

Real Madrid would have to release their finances every year for all of their members. It may not be known until the annual report comes out.

K-9

Did the Coentrao deal fall through in the end?

Apparently United announced the Feilani signing for an undisclosed amount, Everton published the £27.5 Million figure a couple of hours later. Ouch!

LuckyLloyd

K-9 wrote: »

Did the Coentrao deal fall through in the end?

Apparently United announced the Feilani signing for an undisclosed amount, Everton published the £27.5 Million figure a couple of hours later. Ouch!

Haha, fair play Everton - that's what you get for trying to disrespect a club in the fashion Utd did.

~Rebel~

K-9 wrote: »

Did the Coentrao deal fall through in the end?

It appears that way. No confirmation of him on their website. There were reports yesterday that Real would only put through their side of the loan agreement if they got Sequeira on loan themselves, but he went to Benfica.

K-9

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Haha, fair play Everton - that's what you get for trying to disrespect a club in the fashion Utd did.

Great bit of business from them yesterday, McCarthy might be a bit over priced but that's 2 excellent loan signings, impressive stuff.

ciaran76

Lads here is a nice site of all Prem. teams and their signings and costs etc.

http://www.transfermarkt.com/en/premier-league/transferuebersicht/wettbewerb_GB1.html

Red Crow

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Haha, fair play Everton - that's what you get for trying to disrespect a club in the fashion Utd did.

What's this disrespect bollox all about? Are we going to pretend that low ball offers don't happen all the time? By the same token Everton disrespected poor-old championship Wigan.

Some people will try anything for a little pathetic dig.

GavRedKing

I've no time for Wigan and their media whooooore chairman TBH, so the more he gets screwed over the better.

LuckyLloyd

Eli Manning wrote: »

What's this disrespect bollox all about? Are we going to pretend that low ball offers don't happen all the time? By the same token Everton disrespected poor-old championship Wigan.

Some people will try anything for a little pathetic dig.

You offered £28m for both Fellaini and Baines and then a few weeks later were forced to pony that up for the former alone. Ye played it bad and lost. Happens to everyone from time to time.

Clubs do it all the time, and sometimes they pay a price for doing so. Liverpool paid for disprespecting Fulham last year, and Utd pay for disprespecting Everton this year. Suck it up!

aidan24326

For all the criticism of Woodward Moyes has to take some stick too as he wasted a lot of time chasing Fabregas when that deal was never really on.

Seaneh

aidan24326 wrote: »

For all the criticism of Woodward Moyes has to take some stick too as he wasted a lot of time chasing Fabregas when that deal was never really on.

I think some people think Managers are far more involved in transfer negations than they really are.

Odds are Moyes gave the club a list and said "work off that" and the club took it from there.

Its not the 80s anymore with harry redknap tapping up players behind chip vans.

LuckyLloyd

aidan24326 wrote: »

For all the criticism of Woodward Moyes has to take some stick too as he wasted a lot of time chasing Fabregas when that deal was never really on.

Utd should have completed the Fellaini deal a long time ago tbh. Seems clear they wanted two midfield players last night so they should have brought Fellaini in, had him available for the first couple of competitive games, and then provided breathing room to secure a second target whether it be Herrera or an ambitious poke at Ozil / Fabregas / whoever.

Grayditch

Imagine getting a free Baines. Cheeky.

Richard Hillman

Seaneh wrote: »

I think some people think Managers are far more involved in transfer negations than they really are.

Odds are Moyes gave the club a list and said "work off that" and the club took it from there.

Its not the 80s anymore with harry redknap tapping up players behind chip vans.

Poppycock. Harry Redknapp was hanging around a Kiev stripclub all this week waiting for Niko Kranjcar to pop in for his usual.

Nuri Sahin

K-9 wrote: »

Did the Coentrao deal fall through in the end?

Apparently United announced the Feilani signing for an undisclosed amount, Everton published the £27.5 Million figure a couple of hours later. Ouch!

I read it was dependant on Real Madrid signing the LB we (Liverpool) wanted from Granada. Would've been very odd for them to let Coentrao leave without having a replacement, though I suppose Arbeloa could have played there given he's done it a few times in his career, even going as far as to completely lock down Messi on his Liverpool debut :cool:

karma_

aidan24326 wrote: »

For all the criticism of Woodward Moyes has to take some stick too as he wasted a lot of time chasing Fabregas when that deal was never really on.

After all Moyes whinging about the Lescott to City deal he comes out of this looking really bad and loses a fair amount of respect, even though other than pinpointing Fellani and Baines as targets he likely wasn't at fault for the most part, still looks bad by association.

Whole thing was handled so badly, allowing a clause to lapse then paying more on the last hour of deadline day? LOL.

thebaz

karma_ wrote: »

After all Moyes whinging about the Lescott to City deal he comes out of this looking really bad and loses a fair amount of respect, even though other than pinpointing Fellani and Baines as targets he likely wasn't at fault for the most part, still looks bad by association.

don't follow this at all - I take it you just dont like Moyes

karma_

thebaz wrote: »

don't follow this at all - I take it you just dont like Moyes

You don't follow how this could be seen as Hypocrisy?

I don't mind Moyes at all in fairness, I just think he comes out of this looking a little tarnished.

thebaz

karma_ wrote: »

You don't follow how this could be seen as Hypocrisy?

I don't mind Moyes at all in fairness, I just think he comes out of this looking a little tarnished.

not really in the world of 2013 professional management, did very little that no other manager wouldn't do - the only thing I think he did wrong was not going after his targets earlier - and the term Dithering david still persists

GTR63

thebaz wrote: »

not really in the world of 2013 professional management, did very little that no other manager wouldn't do - the only thing I think he did wrong was not going after his targets earlier - and the term Dithering david still persists

Yeah he should of gotten Fellaini earlier but so late in the market I think he felt a bit better the player you know that the one you don't. Everton got good money for him too.

Dempsey

Didnt most media reports say that the clause was due to lapse on the 15th of August and it was only after the 1st of August did it emerge that the clause lapsed after the 31st July. It was a good bit of misinformation from Everton and in general Ed Woodward should be taking bulk of the flak regarding the entire transfer window with the board taking the rest for appointing him with so little experience in transfer dealings.

Smithwicks Man

Nice vote of confidence for Evra too, trying to replace him on DDay. Although I have my doubts that Moyes was going to play Coentrao at LB , but you never know.

Dempsey

Smithwicks Man wrote: »

Nice vote of confidence for Evra too, trying to replace him on DDay. Although I have my doubts that Moyes was going to play Coentrao at LB , but you never know.

I LOL'd at Sky Sports suggesting that they were going to play Coentrao at LB and play Evra on the wing! They really dont have a clue about continental players until they get off the boat in Engerland

Giggsy11

Smithwicks Man wrote: »

Nice vote of confidence for Evra too, trying to replace him on DDay. Although I have my doubts that Moyes was going to play Coentrao at LB , but you never know.

Even if Coentrao was signed he would have been back up or rotated for the LB spot and would have played as winger in few games.

Smithwicks Man

Giggsy11 wrote: »

Even if Coentrao was signed he would have been back up or rotated for the LB spot and would have played as winger in few games.

I'd imagine he'd have established himself as 1st choice on the left wing but thing I'd also expect Kagawa to make the team as well.

Dempsey wrote: »

I LOL'd at Sky Sports suggesting that they were going to play Coentrao at LB and play Evra on the wing! They really dont have a clue about continental players until they get off the boat in Engerland

Clueless, clueless people. They went over to Sky Italia at one stage and asked the reporter there if the Milan fans had forgiven Kaká for leaving for Madrid 4 years ago. Kaká was forced to leave by the club as they needed the money and always wanted to stay and everyone knew it, apparently they can't even google him to find that out though!

And the way they talk about the "Number 10" as though it's some mystical position is laughable.

Cookiemunster

Smithwicks Man wrote: »

Nice vote of confidence for Evra too, trying to replace him on DDay. Although I have my doubts that Moyes was going to play Coentrao at LB , but you never know.

I think the summer long chase of Baines might have let the cat out of the bag before yesterday.......

Paully D

Smithwicks Man wrote: »

And the way they talk about the "Number 10" as though it's some mystical position is laughable.

Like the "famous number 9" shirt they reference during every single Newcastle game. You'd think no other club ever had a player wearing number 9.

Smithwicks Man

Cookiemunster wrote: »

I think the summer long chase of Baines might have let the cat out of the bag before yesterday.......

True :pac:

Nice way to boost morale along with everything else!

Moneymaker

Paully D wrote: »

Like the "famous number 9" shirt they reference during every single Newcastle game. You'd think no other club ever had a player wearing number 9.

You're obsessed.