Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2013/14

tayto lover

Putting them to bed now :D

greendom

SANTI ON FIRE!!!!

(Just as I take him out of my fantasy football team )

efb

Boom boom 2-0

wandatowell

Good man Santi!

FearDark

greendom wrote: »

Girioud was involved in the build up for that goal too. Hate the criticism he gets on this thread

Pity he cant create a goal of his own.

emergingstar

Drop santi they said

Soups123

I wish Wenger gave the first half bollockings at the start of matches

I wouldn't be any absolute cnut to the missus every fckin week for 45-60 minutes

Skylinehead

FearDark wrote: »

Pity he cant create a goal of his own.

Monday ring a bell?

ronjo

Told you all to relax

AdamD

greendom wrote: »

Girioud was involved in the build up for that goal too. Hate the criticism he gets on this thread

Needs to do a lot more than that. He seriously lacks 'quality' as Wenger would say. Being involved in build up is bare minimum stuff..

efb

People here over exaggerate

Soups123

greendom wrote: »

Girioud was involved in the build up for that goal too. Hate the criticism he gets on this thread

In fairness his part in either wasn't anything special or the killer ball that crested the goal.

No one doubts he can hold it up, late it off he just doesn't get enough goals and top teams need a proven goalscorer

He does what he does well we just need something more I think

FearDark

Giroud rolling around in agony again, every single game, he'll be up running around in a minute.

Soups123

ronjo wrote: »

Told you all to relax

When someone tells me to relax when I'm wound up that just makes me worse

greendom

FearDark wrote: »

Pity he cant create a goal of his own.

nonsense - the important thing is that we are scorin.g and winning

FearDark

greendom wrote: »

nonsense - the important thing is that we are scorin.g and winning

How many individual goals has he scored this season?

tayto lover

Here comes the Pod.

Skylinehead

FearDark wrote: »

How many individual goals has he scored this season?

12. What's your point?

wandatowell

Is Nach our first choice left back now do we think?

Drexel

Hate slating Giroud cause he does have some really good qualities but if we had someone of Rooney/Suarez/Agueros ability we would have a goal difference comparable to Citys

FearDark

Skylinehead wrote: »

12. What's your point?

It's more like two.

gosplan

Soups123 wrote: »

He does what he does well we just need something more I think

He's a great all rounder but we do need something more.

Just not right now though.

greendom

FearDark wrote: »

How many individual goals has he scored this season?

Not every player is Suarez or Henry. He does his job, winning headers keeping central defenders busy, clever passes and layoffs, and scoring - vital part of the team

Skylinehead

FearDark wrote: »

It's more like two.

Oh, individual goals. Why do they matter? By that logic Ruud van Nistelrooy was a bit crap.

greendom

Brilliant strike from Poldi - so close

tayto lover

Koscielney is a brilliant defender. Just feckin brilliant.

Green Hornet

wandatowell wrote: »

Is Nach our first choice left back now do we think?

For me, yes.

FearDark

Skylinehead wrote: »

Oh, individual goals. Why do they matter? By that logic Ruud van Nistelrooy was a bit crap.

For me he doesn't score enough thats all. He's like the GAA player playing in a soccer match.

Drexel

tayto lover wrote: »

Koscielney is a brilliant defender. Just feckin brilliant.

hes been immense today

Skylinehead

FearDark wrote: »

For me he doesn't score enough thats all. He's like the GAA player playing in a soccer match.

Sure we'd like a Suarez or Costa, but that's not realistic at the moment. Giroud hasn't exactly hurt us yet either. Calling him a donkey is just completely wrong, Emile Heskey was a donkey.

Again though, why do individual goals matter? They count the same as tapins.

AdamD

Skylinehead wrote: »

Sure we'd like a Suarez or Costa, but that's not realistic at the moment. Giroud hasn't exactly hurt us yet either. Calling him a donkey is just completely wrong, Emile Heskey was a donkey.

Again though, why do individual goals matter? They count the same as tapins.

He has cost us points this season.

greendom

AdamD wrote: »

He has cost us points this season.

I think his balance is hugely positive though both from an attacking and defensive perspective.

Skylinehead

AdamD wrote: »

He has cost us points this season.

When? Either way he's gained a hell of a lot more than he's lost.

greendom

Poldi is so direct - great to watch

greendom

Poor from Giroud there

FearDark

Ah ffs Giroud.

Soups123

FearDark wrote: »

Ah ffs Giroud.

Oh the drama

AdamD

greendom wrote: »

I think his balance is hugely positive though both from an attacking and defensive perspective.

Skylinehead wrote: »

When? Either way he's gained a hell of a lot more than he's lost.

Miss after miss after miss vs City (during his massive goal drought), misses vs Everton (nearly cost us badly with his fresh air, lucky that Ozil was behind him), had some misses vs Chelsea too.

Genuinely believe most decent strikers would get more chances playing for us than Giroud does, passes need to be inch perfect for him, hes that slow and he rarely takes good touches in his stride (though they are normally good in hold up play)
and of course on balance he will have 'won' more points than hes lost, hes a striker.

I'm not saying hes completely useless but hes not up to the required standard for me, and I think he severely limits the players behind him.

gosplan

AdamD wrote: »

He has cost us points this season.

Please explain.

I don't get how you can say that?

Edited to include:
Ah ok, you explained above.

Skylinehead

AdamD wrote: »

Miss after miss after miss vs City (during his massive goal drought), misses vs Everton (nearly cost us badly with his fresh air, lucky that Ozil was behind him), had some misses vs Chelsea too.

Genuinely believe most decent strikers would get more chances playing for us than Giroud does, passes need to be inch perfect for him, hes that slow and he rarely takes good touches in his stride (though they are normally good in hold up play)
and of course on balance he will have 'won' more points than hes lost, hes a striker.

I'm not saying hes completely useless but hes not up to the required standard for me, and I think he severely limits the players behind him.

He cost us points against City? No, we just lost that game deservedly. "Some misses vs Chelsea" doesn't cut it either, every striker in the world has some misses.

greendom

Kos was onto Bent so quickly there - stoppped a clear strike on goal

TimeToShine

I agree that Giroud isn't good enough for a title challenge but I'd rather him than throwing £30m+ away on Costa or Martinez who IMO would not be much of an improvement. If one of the properly world class strikers were on offer then we should pay whatever is necessary or maybe even Draxler as a CF but the kind of half measures above for a 26+ year old with no PL experience isn't worth it.

Drexel

Il be really disappointed if we dont keep a clean sheet today. Do not want us to let in a late goal


OMG they nearly just did :eek:

AdamD

Skylinehead wrote: »

He cost us points against City? No, we just lost that game deservedly. "Some misses vs Chelsea" doesn't cut it either, every striker in the world has some misses.

We deserved to lose, maybe, but with a clinical striker that game goes to 3-3. That's what the top strikers do, bail you out when you aren't playing well. Tbh I'd look into more detail but I'm really not arsed, its plain as day that his finishing is way below the expected standard.

gosplan

AdamD wrote: »

Miss after miss after miss vs City (during his massive goal drought), misses vs Everton (nearly cost us badly with his fresh air, lucky that Ozil was behind him), had some misses vs Chelsea too.

Genuinely believe most decent strikers would get more chances playing for us than Giroud does, passes need to be inch perfect for him, hes that slow and he rarely takes good touches in his stride (though they are normally good in hold up play)
and of course on balance he will have 'won' more points than hes lost, hes a striker.

I'm not saying hes completely useless but hes not up to the required standard for me, and I think he severely limits the players behind him.

I think you're really getting it wrong tbh. He's been outstanding and is exactly the kind if striker that the players behind him would like.

We need something different but he's a hugely important part of the team.

My only comment on him would be that he'll struggle to make an impact against great defenders.

Drexel

On we march

tayto lover

3 points but we were dire in that first half.
Great to be still on top though.

16 games left. Still tops :D

Turtwig

How many lefties were are in the Arsenal squad? Is that the squad with the most lefties in the Europe/World?

bad2dabone

another 3 points in the bag, another clean sheet.

ronjo

Another win and clean sheet with BFG and Kos at back