Manchester United Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - 2013/14 mod warning post#7259

Danye

adox wrote: »

OT:
I've sent you a PM Danye. If you've got a problem with me then take it there rather than all these stupid little sound bites. I ****ing hate it when others are at it and have to read it so I'm sure there's many here that don't want to read it.

I've PMed you back.

If you didn't post such nonsense as not playing a midfield I wouldn't need to use "sound bites" even though its written??

Neeson

This is fun

JRant

Nuri Sahin wrote: »

Aye, it should be Shinji playing behind RVP or Hernandez, but in the form Rooney is in at present, it's hard to drop him. There were plenty of times he should have been dropped over the past year and a bit though. I don't get what your scouting and Fergie thought when buying him. Perhaps Fergie was hoping to sell Rooney to a foreign club a couple of summers ago? Who knows. Then there's the manner of how Moyes sets up his teams.

There really isn't much difference between Shinji, Mata, Silva and Ozil for me. They're all in the top category of CAM's around. Yet two of them are just wasting away. If I'm honest, I don't see him returning to Dortmund despite me joking around on occasion, at least not for a few years at the very earliest, but I hope he gets his move (putting aside my Liverpool-ness.. small part of me wants him tale the EPL by storm like I know he can to shut the haters the **** up) to a club where the management will appreciate him. Japanese people are quite stubborn however and that might see him stay for another season after this year.

If we've no intentions of using him then the decent thing to do would be to let him leave. He's far to good to be riding the pine c

adox

Danye wrote: »

I've PMed you back.

If you didn't post such nonsense as not playing a midfield I wouldn't need to use "sound bites" even though its written??

Dude give it a rest.

JRant

Your Airbag wrote: »

Lots of debate about positions but its great to see Young and Valenica dropped. I think Moyes is getting closer to knowing what his starting eleven is.

Slowly but surely he's finding his way. That's all we can really ask for so early into his appointment.

Danye

adox wrote: »

Dude give it a rest.

Give what a rest???

Your Airbag

Conceding a goal in the first 5 mins



I guess we are doing this the hard way

tallaghtmick

Your Airbag wrote: »

Conceding a goal in the first 5 mins



I guess we are doing this the hard way

We're in transition -_-

Danye

tallaghtmick wrote: »

We're in transition -_-

Where was the support for Nani there??? FFS!!

The_Kew_Tour

gosplan wrote: »

Not at all. I'm not backing down or changing my argument in any way. If I was taken up incorrectly, then maybe I could have been clearer.

My understanding was based in the previous posts to mine that said 'Arsenal have a better midfield'. I was basically saying it's midfield and defence.

If you read what I said, you'll see I'm only ever talking about the players as an effective unit and never picking one from each team.

If that's cleared up, I'd prefer you stopped trying to label or belittle me. I'm not putting words in your mouth buddy. Show some respect.

Where am i not respecting you?

Mikeyt086

Ezequiel Garay has been really good for Benfica this season.

nullzero

Lose this and we're in serious trouble. Hard to know how to solve the problems we have. I'd hate United to turn into a knee jerk reaction club, but how many games can we realistically afford to lose? I'm starting to think the players have no confidence in Moyes. Horrible situation but the manager has to take the blame here. We can't afford to lose out on the champions league which we will do if we continue like this.

adox

Danye wrote: »

Give what a rest???

Ok I'll bite.


I think its a stupid idea to play only one CM in a team as you suggested and asked sure why not play no natural midfielders then and only play attacking players? Can you understand that?

Playing one CM is stupid IMO. Your three or four posts after in response to me added nothing to discussing Man Utd and were lazy and childish.

Now respond away to this if you want but I'm done with you on this subject and won't be getting dragged in to your BS again.

Mikeyt086

Nuri Sahin wrote: »

Aye, it should be Shinji playing behind RVP or Hernandez, but in the form Rooney is in at present, it's hard to drop him. There were plenty of times he should have been dropped over the past year and a bit though. I don't get what your scouting and Fergie thought when buying him. Perhaps Fergie was hoping to sell Rooney to a foreign club a couple of summers ago? Who knows. Then there's the manner of how Moyes sets up his teams.

There really isn't much difference between Shinji, Mata, Silva and Ozil for me. They're all in the top category of CAM's around. Yet two of them are just wasting away. If I'm honest, I don't see him returning to Dortmund despite me joking around on occasion, at least not for a few years at the very earliest, but I hope he gets his move (putting aside my Liverpool-ness.. small part of me wants him tale the EPL by storm like I know he can to shut the haters the **** up) to a club where the management will appreciate him. Japanese people are quite stubborn however and that might see him stay for another season after this year.

I believe the idea was for Kagawa in behind Rooney as the main striker, but then RVP became a possibility and we understandably dropped everything and took him.

Rayne Wooney

I was all for giving Moyes time but if this match stays the way it is I really don't know anymore

Dicky Pride

Signing in.

nullzero

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

I was all for giving Moyes time but if this match stays the way it is I really don't know anymore

Crap situation we look a shambles right now. Title defence is pretty much over already and top four doesn't look realistic. Moyes could get away with this nonsense at Everton and rally at the end of the season, United cannot afford this crap.

tallaghtmick

This is a joke!

The_Kew_Tour

What a save

Neeson

Sunderland are playing great football. It's a joy to see all the same.

Rayne Wooney

nullzero wrote: »

Crap situation we look a shambles right now. Title defence is pretty much over already and top four doesn't look realistic. Moyes could get away with this nonsense at Everton and rally at the end of the season, United cannot afford this crap.

Moyes would have had a better start to the league if he stayed at Everton, it shows how deep the rot is at United and how the Fergie factor was a curtain for it.

Dicky Pride

There's a load of people on this thread that think nani is a great player. That's as baffling as all these performances (and the people who think moyes is the right man for the job)

tallaghtmick

I could pass better than that lot.

Neeson

Dicky Pride wrote: »

There's a load of people on this thread that think nani is a great player. That's as baffling as all these performances (and the people who think moyes is the right man for the job)

I find this strange also. Not so long ago he was being battered for being poor. Maybe now when compared with everyone else he has become the 2nd or 3rd best player.

The_Kew_Tour

Dicky Pride wrote: »

There's a load of people on this thread that think nani is a great player. That's as baffling as all these performances (and the people who think moyes is the right man for the job)

Replace him with?

tallaghtmick

Every game we give away the ball that must ne our new tactic.

CSF

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

Moyes would have had a better start to the league if he stayed at Everton, it shows how deep the rot is at United and how the Fergie factor was a curtain for it.

Is that an excuse for Moyes I hear? So many.

Dicky Pride

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Replace him with?

If only it was that easy. I believe he is talented but his confidence is at an all time low. I'm getting tired of his terrible corners and his accurate attempts at goal (accurate insofar as he consistently hits row Z).

Lord TSC

So, if we don't win, or at least draw, can we start panicking yet?

Unearthly

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

Moyes would have had a better start to the league if he stayed at Everton, it shows how deep the rot is at United and how the Fergie factor was a curtain for it.

Moyes more often than not started seasons poor at Everton

Kerrydude1981

Unearthly wrote: »

Moyes more often than not started seasons poor at Everton

That true they would be pure muck,and then after Xmas they make a burst when it was too late.

Dicky Pride

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

So, if we don't win, or at least draw, can we start panicking yet?

No. Moyes needs time. He needs patience. But really he just needs to be sacked and the club to admit that they made a terrible mistake.

bucketybuck

Neeson wrote: »

Sunderland are playing great football. It's a joy to see all the same.

And we are letting them.

Danye

adox wrote: »

Ok I'll bite.


I think its a stupid idea to play only one CM in a team as you suggested and asked sure why not play no natural midfielders then and only play attacking players? Can you understand that?

Playing one CM is stupid IMO. Your three or four posts after in response to me added nothing to discussing Man Utd and were lazy and childish.

Now respond away to this if you want but I'm done with you on this subject and won't be getting dragged in to your BS again.

Good man.

Well if you think it's stupid to play only 1 CM why suggest playing none??

My responses were in direct response to the nonsense you replied back with.

Look at my other discussions with other posters about the midfield. I went into detail to explain my thinking about playing Kagawa in midfield but further up the pitch. Nothing lazy or childish about anything like that.

I don't think your done.

SirDelboy18

Despite the absolute shambles this has been, I have faith we can turn it around.

tallaghtmick

Moyes should give up and realise hes out of his depth.

The_Kew_Tour

Dicky Pride wrote: »

If only it was that easy. I believe he is talented but his confidence is at an all time low. I'm getting tired of his terrible corners and his accurate attempts at goal (accurate insofar as he consistently hits row Z).

Who is better though

lets face it

Kerrydude1981

Need a stroke of luck to get the team going again,cant see them getting back into it if they don't pick up the pace a bit.

Slow build up play is killing the team.

Unearthly

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

So, if we don't win, or at least draw, can we start panicking yet?

Yes.

8 points behind Arsenal with them playing a game less

6 points behind spurs with them playing a game less

6 behind City

4 behind chelsea and they have a game in hand.

And worse of all 9 behind Liverpool.

Combine that with how poor the performances are and how unlikely its looking at changing any time soon

Vic Vinegar

Kerrydude1981 wrote: »

Need a stroke of luck to get the team going again,cant see them getting back into it if they don't pick up the pace a bit.

Slow build up play is killing the team.

Crossing has been very poor too.

Kerrydude1981

Jamie is loving this

Dicky Pride

Even schmeichel knows that nani is crap

Gringo180

Is Fellaini injured lads?

Danye

Gringo180 wrote: »

Is Fellaini injured lads?

Don't think so.

IvySlayer

Gringo180 wrote: »

Is Fellaini injured lads?

Wrist injury, probably from the weight of the shampoo

FutureGuy

Kerrydude1981 wrote: »

Jamie is loving this

Don't blame him. Atrocious play from United. It's actually getting worse. There is no heart there today. Half arsed challenges from most of them. Hoofing balls into the box when we have 2 technically gifted players in there.

4-3-1-2. Diamond. Kagawa on for Cleverly and play just behind Rooney and Van Persie. Batter them through the centre because we are hopeless out wide.

tallaghtmick

FutureGuy wrote: »

Don't blame him. Atrocious play from United. It's actually getting worse. There is no heart there today. Half arsed challenges from most of them. Hoofing balls into the box when we have 2 technically gifted players in there.

4-3-1-2. Diamond. Kagawa on for Cleverly and play just behind Rooney and Van Persie. Batter them through the centre because we are hopeless out wide.

Bang on.

adox

Bizzare how Vidic has replicated the exact same mistake in less than a week and cost Utd two goals.

Fair amount of possession but it's been really poor. Look so vulnerable defensively. The tempo of Utd play when in possession is just way too slow.

Adnan the only real bright spark, taking on his defender and giving Sunderland something different to think about. Sure, he will give up possession now and then but let him at it.

Still think Utd will turn it around.

The_Kew_Tour

Adnan has been very good

Rayne Wooney

A lot of United supporters were hoping for us to win the 5 games, starting at West Brom, to make up for our poor start to the season. We're halfway into the second game of this supposed run with a loss in the first and now losing 1-0 and being outplayed by Sunderland and I'm sure some of the United players are seeing maroon and blue stripes on those jerseys with the way they're pressing.

It's just not good enough. Fergie returning until next summer when someone like Klopp could be offered the job is looking appealing, while the United job is still one of the biggest in football, which if Moyes stays in it it could well lose it's reputation.