Manchester United Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - 2013/14 mod warning post#7259

J. Marston

Sack him.

He's taken a team who won the league the last season and amassed 89 points, who also had faults admittedly, to being dicked around by West Brom at home and currently by the the bottom team in the league and now in huge danger of missing out on the top four.

He needs to go. Feck this "Give him time" nonsense. It's clear to see he's not up to it.

CSF

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Adnan has been very good

As an individual maybe, as a team player not at all.

tallaghtmick

Ah we started the 2nd half ****e again.

POSSY

Its like those aliens from space jam have gotten into OT and taken all the players skills because from what I can see we have completely gone to ****e.

tallaghtmick

Bout ****ing time

Mars Bar

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match thread please tallaghtmick?

Lord TSC

A serious question that I ask regardless of the game today.

What does Moyes bring to the team as manager?

I don't want snipes about getting behind the manager or attacking me as a fan. I'm not looking for answers which asks for faith based on faith shown by others (i.e. "Fergie picked him so we have to trust him"). I am asking for people to provide me a list or a detailed description of what Moyes offers to the club right now. And in many ways, I'm asking so that people who are loving United's struggles need answers and I'm struggling to give them.

Cause tactically, I think he's been nearing a disaster, public relations wise, he's been causing embarrassment, transfer wise, he didn't do anything. What are the strengths of David Moyes as a manager that people believe he'll turn things round?

quarryman

J. Marston wrote: »

Sack him.

He's taken a team who won the league the last season and amassed 89 points, who also had faults admittedly, to being dicked around by West Brom at home and currently by the the bottom team in the league and now in huge danger of missing out on the top four.

He needs to go. Feck this "Give him time" nonsense. It's clear to see he's not up to it.

After 7 games?

Jaysus, I thought Liverpool and Newcastle fans were kneejerk.

The_Kew_Tour

CSF wrote: »

As an individual maybe, as a team player not at all.

And your wrong

tallaghtmick

Mars Bar wrote: »

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match thread please tallaghtmick?

Im sorry but just tallaghtmick? You cant be serious.

GSPfan

Give Januzaj the number 7.

Mr.Prodston

J. Marston wrote: »

Sack him.

He's taken a team who won the league the last season and amassed 89 points, who also had faults admittedly, to being dicked around by West Brom at home and currently by the the bottom team in the league and now in huge danger of missing out on the top four.

He needs to go. Feck this "Give him time" nonsense. It's clear to see he's not up to it.

And who would we bring in eh?

Take a look at our team. Fergie is a wizard to have achieved what he has. Everyone is also a year older and the team is stale. It's going to take 2 seasons no matter who is in charge. Not much happened this summer for whatever reason but I'm putting it down to a "bedding" in period for the new coaching/managerial ticket along with our new chief exec.

We have a lot of players who have at most 2 seasons left as 1st team regulars and are in decline. It's unfortunate that things haven't been going well on the pitch.

We have a fantastic goal keeper and fantastic forwards. Rafael is just back from injury and everyone else at the back is either young and developing our getting old. Midfield is something Moyes has pinpointed for improving. Carrick is very good but not to be relied upon and Cleverley and Anderson are decent back-ups. Fellaini adds something different but we need more and Moyes will bring in more. Patience is a virtue for a reason!

Moyes has also encouraged youth in playing AJ, and he's doing rather well today

IvySlayer

Tony Pulis is looking for a job :P

Mars Bar

tallaghtmick wrote: »

Im sorry but just tallaghtmick? You cant be serious.

mod
...and everyone else who is just giving a little snippet of the game in a ticker style.

tallaghtmick

Mars Bar wrote: »

mod
...and everyone else who is just giving a little snippet of the game in a ticker style.

Thank you Im such a awkward cnut :pac:

The_Kew_Tour

If this kid the contact he wants

Jimmy Iovine

Such a beautiful goal.

adox

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

If this kid the contact he wants

Is that code for give this kid the contract he wants?. :pac:

adox

Jimmy Iovine wrote: »

Such a beautiful goal.

Stick it in the match thread as well if you haven't already.

jaykay74

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

If this kid the contact he wants

wise words Yoda.

SirDelboy18

It's scary that we could lose him.

gosplan

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Where am i not respecting you?

That'd be the bit where you reframed some arguments of mine and said something along the lines of 'oh dear'

jaykay74

SirDelboy18 wrote: »

It's scary that we could lose him.

:pac:

Stuart Rowson ‏@StuartRowson 51s
The day before Januzaj was born on Sunday, February 5, 1995, a 21-year-old Ryan Giggs played his 183rd game for #MUFC in 1-0 win over #AVFC

Dicky Pride

What's with moyes always using all 3 of his subs?

gosplan

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

A lot of United supporters were hoping for us to win the 5 games, starting at West Brom, to make up for our poor start to the season. We're halfway into the second game of this supposed run with a loss in the first and now losing 1-0 and being outplayed by Sunderland and I'm sure some of the United players are seeing maroon and blue stripes on those jerseys with the way they're pressing.

It's just not good enough. Fergie returning until next summer when someone like Klopp could be offered the job is looking appealing, while the United job is still one of the biggest in football, which if Moyes stays in it it could well lose it's reputation.

It's not Moyes, it's losing Fergie. Bringing him back will just postpone the transition which would be dumb given it's begun.

Anyone else think it's no coincidence that Utd's best player is the one that didn't play under Fergie.

It doesn't matter who Moyes is or what he says. No one at Utd wanted to play for him when they went to the club and it's going to take time to motivate them.

They just look at him and think 'you're not Fergie'

adox

Dicky Pride wrote: »

What's with moyes always using all 3 of his subs?

Last one was forced and I can understand the other two, although I would have brought on Welbeck and Kags.

Professional Griefer

The save from DDG in the first half was vital, cracking save.

Rayne Wooney

Well... 3 points. Two moments of brilliance from Jan bailed us out.

Now to see what Moyes comes out with.

IvySlayer

WE WON A GAME!!

FutureGuy

Well done to David Moyes for having the balls to start Januzaj on a day he needed to win.

Now David. I dare you drop him.

Lord TSC

Yeay! Top half of the table.

Vic Vinegar

Dicky Pride wrote: »

What's with moyes always using all 3 of his subs?

He doesn't always use all three, pay attention.

J. Marston

FutureGuy wrote: »

Well done to David Moyes for having the balls to start Januzaj on a day he needed to win.

Now David. I dare you drop him.

Had the balls to play Januzaj but was afraid to take off Rooney, who was absolutely awful.

Al Capwned

Dicky Pride wrote: »

No. Moyes needs time. He needs patience. But really he just needs to be sacked and the club to admit that they made a terrible mistake.

tallaghtmick wrote: »

Moyes should give up and realise hes out of his depth.

J. Marston wrote: »

Sack him.

He's taken a team who won the league the last season and amassed 89 points, who also had faults admittedly, to being dicked around by West Brom at home and currently by the the bottom team in the league and now in huge danger of missing out on the top four.

He needs to go. Feck this "Give him time" nonsense. It's clear to see he's not up to it.

Whoah lads, relaaaax a little...
If ye pull your toes up, your knees might stop jerking...

tallaghtmick

In fairness putting Danny and Tony V on where good moves.

tallaghtmick

In fairness putting Danny and Tony V on where good moves.

DM_7

International break grrrrrrr

Nolars

good to get the win, good to see adnan but apart from that nothing great. Sunderland were horrible in the 2nd half. one step at a time I suppose.

Mr.Prodston

We are top half of the league, I say we're top half of the league

Giggsy11

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

Well... 3 points. Two moments of brilliance from Jan bailed us out.

Now to see what Moyes comes out with.

Funny it's moment of brilliance when United score but not Vidic/Jones **** up when we conceded.

Moyes is in lose lose position with few tbh. No matter what he does he will get **** from few.

He was ballsy to start 18 year old when he couldn't buy a win and he won the game for us. That's a brilliant decision.

Paul Tergat

Europa qualification is back on.

Seriously though, it was about getting the 3 points and getting the season back on track. There's still a lot of work to be done and a lot of players need to turn up this season

FutureGuy

J. Marston wrote: »

Had the balls to play Januzaj but was afraid to take off Rooney, who was absolutely awful.

In fairness, Van Persie and Rooney were given no service.

mitosis

J. Marston wrote: »

Had the balls to play Januzaj but was afraid to take off Rooney, who was absolutely awful.

Yeah, see can he hang on to him now.

theoneeyedman

Giggsy11 wrote: »

Funny it's moment of brilliance when United score but not Vidic/Jones **** up when we conceded.

Moyes is in lose lose position with few tbh. No matter what he does he will get **** from few.

He was ballsy to start 18 year old when he couldn't buy a win and he won the game for us. That's a brilliant decision.

Obviously tore a page out of The Big Book of Management by Davy Fitzgerald

Giggsy11

FutureGuy wrote: »

In fairness, Van Persie and Rooney were given no service.

There is much more than just no service tbh. They didn't make any runs at all and all the runs they made were wrong ones. When our wingers had the ball in the wide area it was so painful to watch him getting no support at all and out strikers didn't help with their lack of movement in the box.

Lately this has been the trend, when wingers/fb cross, strikers don't make the run at all. They just stand and try to win the header which will fail 9/10 times. They should make runs like Hernandez. No wonder 2 or 3 Nani's cross against WBA looked sure goal when Hernandez made runs and missed by inches.

J. Marston

Al Capwned wrote: »

Whoah lads, relaaaax a little...
If ye pull your toes up, your knees might stop jerking...

Happy that we won but scraping a win against Sunderland doesn't change my mind.

Lord TSC

This idea of being "ballsey" for starting Januzaj confuses me. His options were Young (who is useless), Valencia (who is useless), Welbeck (who isn't a winger), Kagawa, Nani and Januzaj.

It was by process of elimination Januzaj got the start today. It was him or Kagawa. Moreso, if he's in the first team squad, it's games like today he SHOULD be starting.

It was ****ing Sunderland today, lads. A team who have 1 point in 7 games played. It's the type of game we should have been rotating players in and giving kids a chance. It's not that it was brave. We're not talking about starting him against City or Chelsea. It strikes me though that some people are so desperate for a silver lining, they're engaging in hyperbole to paper over the cracks.

It's great Januzaj got a start for United, he's a wonderful talent and we need to get him signed up permanently. But let's not bill this as David beating Goliath here.

Danye

I thought Jones was very good second half.

How poor was O'Sheas header for our 2nd?

skinny90

Top half of the league-were having a laugh,
Top half of the league-were having a laugh

Paul Tergat

This is why Moyes cant win ^

He could have played any of those you mentioned who are far more experienced players. He plays Adnan and if it doesnt work he knows he is going to get it from everywhere. It works for him so give him the credit