Manchester United Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - 2013/14 mod warning post#7259

master-t

Winston Payne wrote: »

Not a lot more. But I'd have it closer to nine, and maybe even, nine than six. Double figures is possible.

Lets look at things.


Chelsea - No where near a typical Jose team.....and he knows it. They seriously lack a striker - evident by the persistent chase of Rooney. Eto? I'm not sure what he's got left in his locker after playing in Russia. Class final season with Inter, not done much with Anzhi, now in the PL and 32. Jurys out.

Arsenal - Great signing with Ozil, but ironically, it was a striker they needed. Panic transfer of the highest order IMO. Still shakey at the back, no leaders.


Man City - Haven't been blown away by all this 'talent' they signed. Without Kompany they fall apart in the big games. Will take time to gel IMO.


Spurs - So many new signings and sold their best player. Will take time to gel - top 4 is realistic, title challenge is not.


Man Utd - Kept their main assests and squad that won the league. Signed a CM that they lacked for so long. If players remain fit, and best players on the pitch, still look stronger than most of our rivals.


Calm the f**k down Jesse.....

NTMK

Headshot wrote: »

what would cheer me up big time right now is jan signing that contract

wtf is happening there

expect it some time this month now that transfers are out of the way

Red Crow

irish bloke wrote: »

Think I will follow Arsenal from now on

That's fine; if you want to win nothing. Arsenal with Ozil are a better team but they still might not make the top 4 this year

irish bloke

NTMK wrote: »

see ya

I will miss you too.. Xxxx

PhlegmyMoses

Winston Payne wrote: »

I think we're more liable to drop silly points than they are. Can't see us beating City in a few weeks. That's a good start on it.

Chelsea haven't looked overly impressive at all this year. They were positively rubbish against us. Obviously it's all supposition but people are being very positive about certain teams when they haven't shown a whole lot so far.

For a start, I think we'll beat City. They've looked out of sorts in their last couple of games, similar to last year. I'm also not a massive fan of Pellegrini. He had as much pedigree as Moyes but kind of got a free ride from the press when he joined this summer.

Pj!

irish bloke wrote: »

Baines hardly wants to warm the bench in the hope Evra gets injured

Rooney, Kagawa, Chico, Evans all probably don't like warming the bench either.

It's very possible that Baines would be better and Evra will get the bench. Everyone loves Evra (including myself) but don't let it cloud things.

Evra + Baines > Evra


One of the best left backs around wanted to join us and it's a position we are not fully covered in.

Rayne Wooney

PhlegmyMoses wrote: »

Chelsea haven't looked overly impressive at all this year. They were positively rubbish against us. Obviously it's all supposition but people are being very positive about certain teams when they haven't shown a whole lot so far.

For a start, I think we'll beat City. They've looked out of sorts in their last couple of games, similar to last year. I'm also not a massive fan of Pellegrini. He had as much pedigree as Moyes but kind of got a free ride from the press when he joined this summer.

Pellegrini had as much pedigree as Moyes? Serious?

PhlegmyMoses

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

Pellegrini had as much pedigree as Moyes? Serious?

Yup. What has he won since he moved to Europe? An Intertoto cup with Villareal? Did pretty well with Villareal but he had money to spend on world class players like Senna and Riquelme etc. Flopped at Madrid and got 4th (with 58 points) in la Liga with Malaga having spent a fortune.

He may turn out to be a great manager at City but he has as much winning pedigree as Moyes.

Winston Payne

He got 96 points with Real Madrid and had them playing better football than at any time under Mourinho. Malaga overachieved when they got fourth as well. He mightn't have an overflowing trophy cabinet but I do think there's pedigree there.

A Brad Maddox Guy

Winston Payne wrote: »

He got 96 points with Real Madrid and had them playing better football than at any time under Mourinho. Malaga overachieved when they got fourth as well. He mightn't have an overflowing trophy cabinet but I do think there's pedigree there.

Which is the exact point with Moyes.

PhlegmyMoses

Winston Payne wrote: »

He got 96 points with Real Madrid and had them playing better football than at any time under Mourinho. Malaga overachieved when they got fourth as well. He mightn't have an overflowing trophy cabinet but I do think there's pedigree there.

And I believe that there is pedigree with Moyes. As much as there is with Pellegrini. Neither have won things before (in Europe, in fairness to Pellegrini) and they're coming to clubs that are expecting to win things. One of them has been asked to prove that he has the potential to win things, the other hasn't. Pellegrini has as much to prove as Moyes, imo.

Winston Payne

A Brad Maddox Guy wrote: »

Which is the exact point with Moyes.

Pellegrini did it more recently than eight years ago. He's far more proven in Europe than Moyes as well.

poolboy

master-t wrote: »

Lets look at things.


Chelsea - No where near a typical Jose team.....and he knows it. They seriously lack a striker - evident by the persistent chase of Rooney. Eto? I'm not sure what he's got left in his locker after playing in Russia. Class final season with Inter, not done much with Anzhi, now in the PL and 32. Jurys out.

Arsenal - Great signing with Ozil, but ironically, it was a striker they needed. Panic transfer of the highest order IMO. Still shakey at the back, no leaders.


Man City - Haven't been blown away by all this 'talent' they signed. Without Kompany they fall apart in the big games. Will take time to gel IMO.


Spurs - So many new signings and sold their best player. Will take time to gel - top 4 is realistic, title challenge is not.


Man Utd - Kept their main assests and squad that won the league. Signed a CM that they lacked for so long. If players remain fit, and best players on the pitch, still look stronger than most of our rivals.


Calm the f**k down Jesse.....

What's your assessment of the league leaders.?

PhlegmyMoses

Winston Payne wrote: »

Pellegrini did it more recently than eight years ago. He's far more proven in Europe than Moyes as well.

Moyes hasn't really had the chance to do so. If I'm being honest, unless you have won in Europe or won your league title, you're not really proven at all when you come to a club like United or City. Moyes will win games in Europe this year with United.

RobertKK

Telegraph Sport ‏@TelegraphSport 15s Fellaini gave up £4m in loyalty bonuses to save #MUFC move from collapse. @MOgdenTelegraph reports. http://fw.to/CPHeN4Q

That is commitment for you.

The_Kew_Tour

irish bloke wrote: »

Think I will follow Arsenal from now on

You don't sound like United fan if im honest.

onemorechance

RobertKK wrote: »

Telegraph Sport ‏@TelegraphSport 15s Fellaini gave up £4m in loyalty bonuses to save #MUFC move from collapse. @MOgdenTelegraph reports. http://fw.to/CPHeN4Q

That is commitment for you.

I don't understand what difference it makes to the transfer that Fellaini submits a transfer request. Does it impose some obligation on the club? I think it was already clear that he wanted to move; what difference does the formal request make?

I just realised, it's an extra 4 million for Everton! D'oh!

lordgoat

Headshot wrote: »

what would cheer me up big time right now is jan signing that contract

wtf is happening there

Same with regards to Nani.

Can see Jan leaving tbh. It'd top things off.

RobertKK

onemorechance wrote: »

I don't understand what difference it makes to the transfer that Fellaini submits a transfer request. Does it impose some obligation on the club? I think it was already clear that he wanted to move; what difference does the formal request make?

I just realised, it's an extra 4 million for Everton! D'oh!

Yeah, Everton would have had to pay the loyalty bonuses if the club had wanted the contract broken instead of the player.

Alfred Borden

Arsenal fan here, think Fellaini is a superb signing always loved him. United still the team to beat in my eyes, defending champions, best starting 11 and best player in the league, if thats a backward step i would love that, we are one injury away from Nicky B :pac:

J. Marston

RobertKK wrote: »

Telegraph Sport ‏@TelegraphSport 15s Fellaini gave up £4m in loyalty bonuses to save #MUFC move from collapse. @MOgdenTelegraph reports. http://fw.to/CPHeN4Q

That is commitment for you.

Commitment? We probably agreed to pay whatever he was due as long as he submitted a transfer request and pushed things along.

irish bloke

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

You don't sound like United fan if im honest.

You got me there!!!

It was a joke ffs.
Following united for over 30 years.
This in an Internet forum after all, hardly a place to be serious.

Headshot

irish bloke wrote: »

You got me there!!!

It was a joke ffs.
Following united for over 30 years.
This in an Internet forum after all, hardly a place to be serious.

the man utd thread is super serial

The_Kew_Tour

irish bloke wrote: »

You got me there!!!

It was a joke ffs.
Following united for over 30 years.
This in an Internet forum after all, hardly a place to be serious.

well that was not the reason, but I will take your word on it.

onemorechance

lordgoat wrote: »

Same with regards to Nani.

Can see Jan leaving tbh. It'd top things off.

According to Juventus sporting director Giuseppe Marotta ""He has renewed his contract with Manchester United and we never negotiated for him.".

Although it's only being reported by the same sites / blogs that reported Paddy Power had paid out on him leaving, goal, crunchsports, givemesport . . .

irish bloke

Headshot wrote: »

the man utd thread is super serial

Everyone in there own bubble I suppose

Lord TSC

PhlegmyMoses wrote: »

Chelsea haven't looked overly impressive at all this year. They were positively rubbish against us. Obviously it's all supposition but people are being very positive about certain teams when they haven't shown a whole lot so far.

Agreed here. Jose's tactics seem to be get a lead and then stop playing. Worked against Hull but Hull were toothless. Nearly resulted in a draw for Villa. And didn't impress against us. It's a dodgy tactic to play and they'll drop points playing that way.

As for City, think we'd have mauled Newcastle too so wasn't impressed there. They lost to newly promoted Cardiff. And took them a fair while to break down Hull. They spent a lot of money but really don't look like a team that invested that much cash.

Having watched all three of both teams opening games, really am not scared. Chelsea have a dangerous strategy and City are already dropping stupid points.

irish bloke

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

well that was not the reason, but I will take your word on it.

Is that because I don't agree with you?

The_Kew_Tour

irish bloke wrote: »

Is that because I don't agree with you?

no.

Kerrydude1981

Looking forward to Fellaini and Carrick linking up,we could see Carrick getting forward a bit more now he has a player that play a holding role.Fellaini will also give Utd a physical edge in the middle that has been missing for a while now.

The_Kew_Tour

Hopefully our luck with injuries improves dramatically too.

Its been very poor the past couple of seasons.

irish bloke

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

no.

If you say so

RasTa

Went out at 4pm yesterday and just home now. Brief summary of the 2000 posts I've to read?

lordgoat

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Hopefully our luck with injuries improves dramatically too.

Its been very poor the past couple of seasons.

Kew, i think you have an admirer... Isn't he cute?

The_Kew_Tour

RasTa wrote: »

Went out at 4pm yesterday and just home now. Brief summary of the 2000 posts I've to read?

we have went backwards

Woodward out.

Laughing stock.

lordgoat

RasTa wrote: »

Went out at 4pm yesterday and just home now. Brief summary of the 2000 posts I've to read?

We signed Felliani. We missed out on Ander. We signed a left back from FC Zurich. We missed out on Contreao.

Oh and a general meltdown.

The_Kew_Tour

lordgoat wrote: »

Kew, i think you have an admirer... Isn't he cute?

I always like cute ones Lord, always liked the cute ones.;)

lordgoat

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

I always like cute ones Lord, always liked the cute ones.;)

Anything for a pretty face. It's a curse isn't it?

SantryRed

What actually happened with those so called United officials in the La Liga offices?

Rayne Wooney

RasTa wrote: »

Went out at 4pm yesterday and just home now. Brief summary of the 2000 posts I've to read?

Our combined fury crashed boards for 25 minutes.

The_Kew_Tour

lordgoat wrote: »

Anything for a pretty face. It's a curse isn't it?

I know my heart melts so it does when I see a cutey:pac:

I just have to go in for the kill.

lordgoat

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

I know my heart melts so it does when I see a cutey:pac:

I just have to go in for the kill.

Do it. :eek: <- like that guy.

The_Kew_Tour

SantryRed wrote: »

What actually happened with those so called United officials in the La Liga offices?

They were taken to Syria never to be seen again.

Honestly I dont think anyone knows:o

case885

https://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CDMQqQIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww1.skysports.com%2Ffootball%2Fnews%2F12691%2F8904926%2Ftransfer-news-manchester-united-sign-fc-zurich-youngster-saidy-janko&ei=mWUmUuvwDImO7Qbb2YHwBw&usg=AFQjCNHdIFEAPHiPGWlzC7yLzYFY5GDN2Q&bvm=bv.51495398,d.ZGU Didnt know about that deal.

irish bloke

lordgoat wrote: »

Kew, i think you have an admirer... Isn't he cute?

Brilliant. Ha ha ha..

The_Kew_Tour

When was Raf meant to be back?

What is story with Evans?

Winston Payne

SantryRed wrote: »

What actually happened with those so called United officials in the La Liga offices?

It appears that they are three lawyers which clubs use to negotiate with Bilbao. They conducted the Martinez transfer for Bayern last year. Using those lawyers, Bayern put pressure on Bilbao through the council, who urged Bilbao to sell with the threat of the club's debts being called in. United however were unaware of the various complications to the deal. There wasn't enough time to work through it all and United were unwilling to push through the deal in the face of that. It now appears that the club tried to distance itself from the lawyers by claiming that nobody was sent to Bilbao to negotiate on our behalf. That's where the impostors claim seems to have sprung from. I don't believe United's excuse. I think we did send the lawyers there but tried to spin it once the effort for the player failed.

Pj!

RobertKK wrote: »

Telegraph Sport ‏@TelegraphSport 15s Fellaini gave up £4m in loyalty bonuses to save #MUFC move from collapse. @MOgdenTelegraph reports. http://fw.to/CPHeN4Q

That is commitment for you.

onemorechance wrote: »

I don't understand what difference it makes to the transfer that Fellaini submits a transfer request. Does it impose some obligation on the club? I think it was already clear that he wanted to move; what difference does the formal request make?

I just realised, it's an extra 4 million for Everton! D'oh!

J. Marston wrote: »

Commitment? We probably agreed to pay whatever he was due as long as he submitted a transfer request and pushed things along.

It actually appears that Man Utd only spent £23.5m, the same as the earlier release clause. The £4m Fellaini sacrificed made the deal worth £27.5 to Everton.

Makes sense.

Pj!

Walcott on Rooney's injury:

'I have seen a picture and it is a very, very big gash. It's not nice to see. It's like something out of a horror film.'

lordgoat

irish bloke wrote: »

Brilliant. Ha ha ha..

so you're a: must have the last word kinda gal. cool. If only you put as much effort in your posts about football.