Manchester United Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - 2013/14 mod warning post#7259

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collie0708 wrote: »

My brother and I are heading over let's hope we get 3 points,have tried a few pubs round old Trafford but the bishop blaize is my favorite so can't recommend anywhere better..

This is my 10th game and I've yet too see them get anything but the 3 points so hope that trend continues

kryogen

Headshot wrote: »

he plays in the middle

messi on the right, sanchez in the center and Neymar on the left, he may float to the wing sometimes but he mainly plays down the middle

With Chile he plays thru the center too

To be fair, Messi was played a lot through the middle with Sanchez as a wing forward type for a while, he can do it, but we don't need him and should really be targeting players in positions we do need them!

Sanchez has never been the same player for Barca that he was for Udinese in the role. He hasn't been a flop or anything, you know what I mean though

Blatter

kryogen wrote: »

To be fair, Messi was played a lot through the middle with Sanchez as a wing forward type for a while, he can do it, but we don't need him and should really be targeting players in positions we do need them!

Sanchez has never been the same player for Barca that he was for Udinese in the role. He hasn't been a flop or anything, you know what I mean though

He looked good during his first 6 months for Barca and has started this season very well. In between that he's been very average.

kryogen

Blatter wrote: »

He looked good during his first 6 months for Barca and has started this season very well. In between that he's been very average.

Would agree with you, but I don't think Barca are set up to get the best out of him, thought he was a strange buy for them at the time and still do.

Largely agree with your assessment.

larchielads

buy cm's first then worry about other positions

DARK-KNIGHT

Any of you see Chico moving? If he does I give up

scudzilla

DARK-KNIGHT wrote: »

Any of you see Chico moving? If he does I give up

I can see him going, and i'd hate that.

Put yourself in his shoes, under SAF he was getting game time, new manager comes in and he's gone down the pecking order and hardly playing. His love for the club is surely diminishing

IamtheWalrus

I hope Moyes doesn't spend in January just for the sake of it. Not a fan of the January window. Always feels like sifting through the bargain bin.

Robson99

IamtheWalrus wrote: »

I hope Moyes doesn't spend in January just for the sake of it. Not a fan of the January window. Always feels like sifting through the bargain bin.

I agree. I cant see who he can bring in that is not CL tied. I think he would be better ensuring that we get a top 4 finish and then buy in the summer

Your Airbag

Sir Alex has had a road named after him. Personally I think its good that he is alive to see his legendary status recognised.

bucketybuck

scudzilla wrote: »

I can see him going, and i'd hate that.

Put yourself in his shoes, under SAF he was getting game time, new manager comes in and he's gone down the pecking order and hardly playing. His love for the club is surely diminishing

I believe he played less than 1000 minutes last season.

Your Airbag

So you walk down Sir Alex way, past the Sir Alex statue and into the Sir Alex stand.

No Pressure Moyes.


(taken from twitter)

Owen_S

Ferguson is looking well these days

Julez

Owen_S wrote: »

Ferguson is looking well these days

Yeah, I was thinking that watching his interview on CBS the other week, looks like the lack of stress is doing him good. Was good to see him looking healthy, well deserved break too.

Moyes on the other hand....

tallaghtmick

Robson99 wrote: »

I agree. I cant see who he can bring in that is not CL tied. I think he would be better ensuring that we get a top 4 finish and then buy in the summer

We've no chance in the CL anyway so bringing in a player who's team is knocked out early may benefit us.

Lord TSC

Robson99 wrote: »

I agree. I cant see who he can bring in that is not CL tied. I think he would be better ensuring that we get a top 4 finish and then buy in the summer

Right now, the pressure on Moyes is to increase our league standing. I'd imagine most won't care if we get a cup tied player who helps drag us back up the table...

Liam O

tallaghtmick wrote: »

We've no chance in the CL anyway so bringing in a player who's team is knocked out early may benefit us.

It was only an undeserved red card that stopped United pushing Real to the limit last season. I would have fancied them against Dortmund after that and to give Bayern a challenge. Worse teams have won the CL in the last few seasons. People are overreacting to a few bad performances where players have been in and out of the team adapting to a new manager and coaching staff. That could and probably will all be different by February.

IamtheWalrus

I bloody love Fergie.

Robson99

tallaghtmick wrote: »

We've no chance in the CL anyway so bringing in a player who's team is knocked out early may benefit us.

I dont see many of the top players being out of CL football in January. The only thing that might stand to us is the fact that it is a WC year and some of the bigger players might not be getting a lot of game time at their clubs. Although not many come to mind

tallaghtmick

Liam O wrote: »

It was only an undeserved red card that stopped United pushing Real to the limit last season. I would have fancied them against Dortmund after that and to give Bayern a challenge. Worse teams have won the CL in the last few seasons. People are overreacting to a few bad performances where players have been in and out of the team adapting to a new manager and coaching staff. That could and probably will all be different by February.

Yeh its not like all the biggest teams have strenghtened their teams :rolleyes:

Maximus Alexander

SAF looks ten years younger. I'm glad he retired now, deserves it after his service to the club.

tallaghtmick

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

SAF looks ten years younger. I'm glad he retired now, deserves it after his service to the club.

Fergie 71-10=61

Hi David? Yeh we need you to step aside....Fergie found the fountain of youth!

The_Kew_Tour

Be interesting to see how we cope with pressing game they will bring at weekend

Headshot

The pressure is on Moyes now but it will be nothing compared to not getting full points in the PL games before we face Arsenal

tallaghtmick

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11667/8970240/transfer-news-ipswich-could-extend-ryan-tunnicliffes-loan-from-manchester-united

Doing well at Ipswich but whats the craic with Tunnicliffe I thought he was older than 20, I remember seeing him on MUTV a few years ago dominating games, is he rated at OT?

Mitch Connor

tallaghtmick wrote: »

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11667/8970240/transfer-news-ipswich-could-extend-ryan-tunnicliffes-loan-from-manchester-united

Doing well at Ipswich but whats the craic with Tunnicliffe I thought he was older than 20, I remember seeing him on MUTV a few years ago dominating games, is he rated at OT?

I think he is rated well enough at OT, but I can't see him having a future with us.

I did have hopes for him, Pogba and Morrison forming a perfect midfield 3 for us - but two are going and I reckon Tunnicliffe will be gone soon enough too.

Just doesn't have the technique or speed on the ball required. Will be a decent player though.

J. Marston

DARK-KNIGHT wrote: »

Any of you see Chico moving? If he does I give up

I'm growing more and more resigned to the fact. When he looked pissed coming off a few weeks ago, I think it said a lot.

Mitch Connor

Said myself before the summer that I couldn't see Rooney and Chico staying - I expected Rooney to be gone (to PSG) but if that didn't come about and Rooney stayed, that Chico would be looking to leave.

As it stands, I reckon Chico would like first team football, here or elsewhere - so would like to talk to other teams. However, I reckon United will be loath to lose him as much because I don't think the Rooney issue is over. He hasn't really commited himself to United - he has committed himself to playing professionally, and he will only have 1 year left on his contract come the end of this season. While United are looking at talking about a new contract I have heard Rooney has pushed them back - and even if contract talks do happen, I can see there being a big issue when (imo) United won't be offering an increase on the current term.

IvySlayer

3 games in a row playing at 3 o clock on a Saturday, when is the last time that happened?

Mitch Connor

IvySlayer wrote: »

3 games in a row playing at 3 o clock on a Saturday, when is the last time that happened?

probably the 80's....

Kerrydude1981

Mitch Connor wrote: »

probably the 80's....

All we now is Sports Stadium to make a comeback:)

RVD420

If we sell Chico (I really hope we don't) to Spurs I hope we bleed them (Levy) for every last penny after the way they've jerked us around sticking "United tax" on any previous dealings we've had with them :mad:

v3ttel

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

SAF looks ten years younger.

I know it's a common saying when people retire, but he really doesn't. His appearance hasn't magically changed in the last few months.

The only thing that may have changed is that you no longer perceive him to be under the pressure of driving one of the worlds biggest football clubs.

v3ttel

RVD420 wrote: »

If we sell Chico (I really hope we don't) to Spurs I hope we bleed them (Levy) for every last penny after the way they've jerked us around sticking "United tax" on any previous dealings we've had with them :mad:

If we sell Chico, I hope we....

sack the f*cker who sanctioned the move before it's too late :pac::pac:

Maximus Alexander

v3ttel wrote: »

I know it's a common saying when people retire, but he really doesn't. His appearance hasn't magically changed in the last few months.

The only thing that may have changed is that you no longer perceive him to be under the pressure of driving one of the worlds biggest football clubs.

I know it's a common thing to disagree with people on the internet, but he really does. His appearance hasn't magically changed in the last few months, he is under less stress and it shows.

Johner

Doesn't Ferguson suffer from Rosacea? If so then I don't think you can compare a photo from what is possibly a warm room and one from outside. I think he does look better though but don't think you can compare the two photos above.

Julez

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

I know it's a common thing to disagree with people on the internet, but he really does. His appearance hasn't magically changed in the last few months, he is under less stress and it shows.

Exactly, if you don't think working hard for long hours (SAF, reportedly, first in last out for years, basically 365 days a year) in a high pressure, stressful job doesn't effect you physically, well, then, you're wrong.

Mitch Connor

man i hate international weeks. Arguing over SAFs complexion!

The_Kew_Tour

Ya lets moan about Fellaini instead

Headshot

that damn hair of his

Maximus Alexander

Mitch Connor wrote: »

man i hate international weeks. Arguing over SAFs complexion!

I'd much rather argue about that than the rest of the ****e that's been argued about this past week. :pac:

Mitch Connor

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2460991/Manchester-United-ready-make-fresh-16m-Atletico-midfielder-Koke-new-Xavi.html

United linked with another January move - this time for Koke from At. Madrid. Central midfielder.

Reckon if we are serious for him, we will hear a lot of Chico-At.Mardrid/Koke-United stories between now and January.

RT2010

I absolutely don't want Hernandez to leave... but if he were to go, and go to Spurs, we should absolutely ride Levy for £30m-£35m like he did to us with Berbatov.

Mitch Connor

RT2010 wrote: »

I absolutely don't want Hernandez to leave... but if he were to go, and go to Spurs, we should absolutely ride Levy for £30m-£35m like he did to us with Berbatov.

if we goes it will be for 15million or so, I reckon. United stink at selling players.

RT2010

RVD420 wrote: »

If we sell Chico (I really hope we don't) to Spurs I hope we bleed them (Levy) for every last penny after the way they've jerked us around sticking "United tax" on any previous dealings we've had with them :mad:

+1 ... Just seen this!!

RT2010

Mitch Connor wrote: »

if we goes it will be for 15million or so, I reckon. United stink at selling players.

True yes, 15m up to maybe 20m depending on how desperate the club is. Think he would really flourish at the likes of Spurs, however it would strengthen a potential rival so doubt it will happen. He would head to Spain I think if he goes.

Lord TSC

Yes, a player who can barely get game time and who (if it gets to that stage) is requesting a transfer.

We'll get loads for him!

:rolleyes:

I love Chico, but the truth is that when players are like that, they won't sell for loads. There's a reason United never can sell for much; it's because we tend to sell players who can't get into our first team and who aren't wanted.

Look at Ronaldo as an example of having a first team player we didn't want to let go, and we got tonnes for him. But when it's a player like Chico who can't even get game time and is requesting the move, that always, always lowers the price drastically.

RT2010

Obviously I was joking with getting the £30m - £35m from Spurs. But as for my previous post saying 15m to 20m, I believe that United will definitely get that price for him if we sell.

£15m will be the floor price and clubs like Athletico or whoever will pay at least that for a player of his age and quality, no matter how few games he has played recently. His good form with Mexico and the fact that his wages probably wouldn't be astronomical would also help.

Your Airbag

IvySlayer wrote: »

3 games in a row playing at 3 o clock on a Saturday, when is the last time that happened?

I don't like the 3 o'clock Saturday kick off's because I think UTD are at their most lack luster during these games, in recent times. It has something to do with OT being at its quietest for the 3 o clocks I think.

I have been to a few of these and the stadium always seems at its most lifeless. Its no excuse for a poor team display but the atmosphere does have an effect and there seems to be a lack of urgency about UTD during these games.

Blatter

Mitch Connor wrote: »

if we goes it will be for 15million or so, I reckon. United stink at selling players.

Seen this mentioned a few times on here but the facts don't back it up IMO.

Who Have United sold in the last 5-6 years where the price was below the perceived market value at the time? Can't even think of one to be honest.