Manchester United Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - 2013/14 mod warning post#7259

onemorechance

Bombleswizzum wrote: »

Looks a bit like one maybe, it isn't one though. Daily Mail readers everywhere. Pathetic really.

Coupled with the New Order it's not really a good marketing idea.

Your Airbag

adox wrote: »

I took it them booing Nani and his performance and not his slow walking off.

Sure there was a huge cheer from the crowd when his number was held up as the player coming off and then bood off the pitch.

I can see the hypocrisy of getting all high and mighty, criticising people who actually attended the game while I was watching it on the telly, but it left a very bad taste in the mouth and was a pretty low moment in an underwhelming season so far.

I do hope I'm wrong and you are right, and if haven't watched it back since but that was certainly my interpretation of it watching it "live"

It was a bit of both I think. Whilst I don't agree with booing our own I can understand a fan who travels to OT and pays in wanting to express his opinion.

He didn't boo Nani but called him muck etc. Nani was shocking yesterday and many of his poor crosses were frustrating. He was involved in the goal but if one thing annoys me and I would imagine any football fan is to see a player not trying his hardest and taking his position for granted.

When Nani went down and rolled around and stayed on the ground when the team was working it got me annoyed too. There were times yesterday when he got the ball and didn't push on or sprint but was at jogging speed. He seems half hearted far to often during the game and its unacceptable tbh.

Funnily enough I understand both sides of the Nani debate, he does contribute and even when he is not playing well he can make an impact in a second with the skill he has in his locker.

Its when he looks disinterested and like he is not giving it his all is when I want him off. Yesterday was one of those days and no player should ever look disinterested, its unacceptable.

ankles

There were a lot of grumbles when he started to go off, and cheers when the sub board went up. But the boos only seemed to start when he started the long slow walk rather than running off to allow the change. Its impossible to be sure what was the trigger but that sure didn't help. I can't think he would have been booed if he had got off quickly. Also tbf there was also applause, which no matter how badly someone plays you'd expect from fans. A player can expect abuse and also keyboard ranting, but ordinarily I don't think any player should be booed off.

Vic Vinegar

Mark Hughes has gone bonkers, he thinks Hernandez should have been sent off for the challenge on Huth.

"In my opinion he shouldn't have been on the pitch anyway for the challenge on Robert Huth," said Hughes.

"It was a reckless challenge, I'm sure the lad would agree himself. It's dangerous and you've seen players sent off for lesser chances than that many times before. So we're disappointed with that decision.

"Why the assistant referee didn't see fit to do something about it I don't know. We were disappointed with the decision by the referee. It is very difficult to go against a 70,000 crowd here. Sometimes you have to be strong as a referee."


Read more at http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/251857.html#6l8TBrCZRZBHA6Vp.99

Palacios should have been off for a 2 footed tackle

The_Kew_Tour

Every Man United player should have been sent off Ted.

tallaghtmick

Bombleswizzum wrote: »

Mark Hughes has gone bonkers, he thinks Hernandez should have been sent off for the challenge on Huth.

Hughes is always moaning, has really made me dislike him.

n32

Another howler from the great joe hart. Wouldnt swap ddg for anyone

The_Kew_Tour

I have been saying for past 3 seasons how overrated Hart is, but even I am surprised how bad he is now.

adox

What was Hart at? Bizzare.

Rayne Wooney

Waits for headlines tomorrow

"Nastasic error costs City the game"

IvySlayer

Disappointed Neville didnt rip into Hart

tallaghtmick

IvySlayer wrote: »

Disappointed Neville didnt rip into Hart

It worked for DDG hes clever and wants Hart to be ****e.

Red Crow

IvySlayer wrote: »

Disappointed Neville didnt rip into Hart

What are you disappointed about? Neville has been awful. He just looks amazing next to the likes of Carragher, Yorke, Souness.

His DDG rant was completely cheap.

onemorechance

City have an abundance of excellent midfielders and attackers, But have a dodgy keeper and only two reliable defenders, Kompany and Zabaletta. Kompany makes up for a lot when he plays.

Owen_S

Are people surprised that an England coach isn't criticising the England no.1? Neville was by far the best pundit around before becoming involved in the England set-up, but his bias is beginning to show through his hesitance to criticise England internationals.

RasTa

Mad that we are only 2 points behind City

Rayne Wooney

RasTa wrote: »

Mad that if we are only 2 points behind City

They have won the battle for 7th this weekend, but the war is long, and in the end when the dust has settled, we will be victorious.

Professional Griefer

Red Crow wrote: »

What are you disappointed about? Neville has been awful. He just looks amazing next to the likes of Carragher, Yorke, Souness.

His DDG rant was completely cheap.

Thats not true, he was good last year as well. Since he works with Hart for England he wasn't going to rip into him.

Wonder if Hughes thought Palacios deserved to stay on.

niallo27

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

Waits for headlines tomorrow

"Nastasic error costs City the game"

In fairness he is getting called out on his mistakes lately. Actually it's nearly gone full circle where anything he does right is ignored.

MANUTD99

IvySlayer wrote: »

Disappointed Neville didnt rip into Hart

He is on the England coaching set up. Has to be careful what he says I'd imagine just like the "debate" him and Carragher had about Lamps, Gerrard and Scholes

Cantona's Collars

Woodward preparing to splash out in January. http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/manchester-united-chief-executive-ed-6244375?

Asked about Ronaldo he replied "Who knows?" And he added: "I do think that we as a club should be aspiring and having the best players."

Mitch Connor

zerks wrote: »

Woodward preparing to splash out in January. http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/manchester-united-chief-executive-ed-6244375?

Asked about Ronaldo he replied "Who knows?" And he added: "I do think that we as a club should be aspiring and having the best players."

i liked some of his comments - with the hope he follows through on them.

Looking at safe standing and greater fan inclusion or access in the club.

On transfers, he said it was disappointing to only have two players in the top 25 list for the Fifa awards - that United should have multiple players of that caliber. Hopefully he follows through in looking to bring that type of player in - and getting it done.

Timmyctc

Didnt Ronaldo sign a new 5 year deal there recently?

ziggyman17

a solid proper midfielder is what we need.. a player who can get up and down the pitch without falling on his face, can pick out a pass, can dribble, can tackle.... lads on another forum saying we are taking a big interest in Draxler....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9Pg3r8jXrs

Timmyctc

Timmyctc wrote: »

Didnt Ronaldo sign a new 5 year deal there recently?

Yep, contracted to 2018

Mitch Connor

Timmyctc wrote: »

Didnt Ronaldo sign a new 5 year deal there recently?

Yep. I now think that one is dead. Think it was doable in the summer, but not now that he has signed a contract.

I think United need to be looking at the next generation of potential superstars if we are to have a chance of having more 'best in the world' players.

Players like Muriel from Udinese, for example, or Draxler at Shalke. I reckon Draxler is going to be one we look to fight for. Not in January, but after the WC.

The_Kew_Tour

If I could buy 3 players for United it would be Draxler, Fabregas and Kroos.

In ideal world of course.

Cantona's Collars

Will I Amnt

^^Typical lack of effort from Rooney. Couldn't even be bothered to dress up.

The_Kew_Tour

Jesus Rooney looks bit rough today.;)

Dicky Pride

Rio's hands are very white.

n32

zerks wrote: »

Woodward preparing to splash out in January. http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/manchester-united-chief-executive-ed-6244375?

Asked about Ronaldo he replied "Who knows?" And he added: "I do think that we as a club should be aspiring and having the best players."

Thats the stuff ed you shrewd business man you, tell the whole market you have money and willing to spend big. He didnt learn at the feet of daniel levy thats for sure

Mitch Connor

n32 wrote: »

Thats the stuff ed you shrewd business man you, tell the whole market you have money and willing to spend big. He didnt learn at the feet of daniel levy thats for sure

In fairness - it wouldn't be a secret we have money - the finances and revenue of the club would make that obvious to start. the fairly well know MASSIVE bid for Bale would also show it. Other clubs will know we have money to spend regardless of Woodward saying it.

Jimmy Iovine

All the money in the world and their costumes look like ****e.

My costume from a few years ago is better. I cut up a black sack, tied it round my neck and got some black face paint and painted a face mask around my eyes.

It was an improvement on my previous year's effort. I bought a white bed sheet, cut three holes in it and went as Casper the ghost. I managed to get into the nightclub for free that night. Everyone else had a ticket. I'm convinced that I actually was invisible that night.

newballsplease

Its gonna be very hard to hold onto Hernandez next year.
Think there will be plenty of clubs in for him and he wants to play more obviously.

seligehgit

MagicMarker wrote: »

Rooney is not going anywhere.

Not convinced that Rooney is not still interested in a move,hope I'm wrong.

Timmyctc

MagicMarker wrote: »

Rooney is not going anywhere.

When he scored on Sat there he looked like someone who was struggling to contain their excitement at scoring. Back against Swansea when he set up those two goals he seemed the complete opposite imo.

Mitch Connor

seligehgit wrote: »

Not convinced that Rooney is not still interested in a move,hope I'm wrong.

Agreed - he'd quite happily move imo.

He would equally sign a MASSIVE new contract at United, but I'm far from convinced United want to offer him an increase on the current contract - so I can see Rooney leaving next summer if we can get a bid from abroad.

MagicMarker

seligehgit wrote: »

Not convinced that Rooney is not still interested in a move,hope I'm wrong.

Doesn't matter if he wants the move. He won't be sold to Chelsea. If he refused to play then we'd be forced to sell him, but I don't think Rooney is that sort of player. He'll keep giving 100% for united regardless.

Bit let's not forget that he never handed in a transfer request.

J. Marston

zerks wrote: »

Woodward preparing to splash out in January. http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/manchester-united-chief-executive-ed-6244375?

Asked about Ronaldo he replied "Who knows?" And he added: "I do think that we as a club should be aspiring and having the best players."

Why even say that? He's signed a new contract and everything.

Pointless. The guy is still a tool.

Timmyctc

J. Marston wrote: »

Why even say that? He's signed a new contract and everything.

Pointless. The guy is still a tool.

Stranger things have happened. Last time I checked, Stewart Downing was still a professional footballer.

seligehgit

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Agreed - he'd quite happily move imo.

He would equally sign a MASSIVE new contract at United, but I'm far from convinced United want to offer him an increase on the current contract - so I can see Rooney leaving next summer if we can get a bid from abroad.

Yeah defo in fact I think they want to reduce the cost of his next contract.Personally think the fact that he did not hand in a transfer request was a matter of winning the battle for the fans hearts and minds.He did seem to want to leave the club and wanted the club to blink first and attempt to sell.The club simply called his bluff and after the Fabregas fiasco were no longer willing to even consider selling a very important player even if he was discontented.
I'd snap Chelsea's hands off if they offered 35 million plus Mata for Rooney.Not likely to happen,don't think Rooney has more than another year left on his contract???

Mitch Connor

J. Marston wrote: »

Why even say that? He's signed a new contract and everything.

Pointless. The guy is still a tool.

From reading the interview it is an honest response to a question.

How is he, or are we, or anyone, to know what will happen in madrid over the next couple of seasons? Maybe Ronaldo will get pissed off and demand a move cause the club loves Bale more - or whomever their next Galactico is. Maybe Ronaldo will become available at some point; at which point we should be interested. So the honest answer is 'Who knows'. It doesnt appear to have been said with a nod and a wink, I don't think a deal is being worked on or anything - but it would be poor from Woodward if he were to categorically rule United out of a move for Ronaldo (or a player of his ilk) just because right now it seems unrealistic.

I'm probably Woodward's second biggest critic on this thread but as I said the other day he comes across very well in the interview. I don't buy, and won't ever buy, some of the crap regarding the transfer window. He won't ever tell the full truth of what happened, it will never officially come out. That is fair enough, thats business. In general terms of what he says in the interview and how he says it - its a damn good interview that I don't have any real issue with.

Hoping he follows through on hints and desire to have the best at united. I hope he follows through on his aims for improving the fans access to and inclusion in the club. Hope he does push for a proper review of safe standing possibilities at United.

Looking forward to the second half of the interview.

Well worth purchasing UWS this month for it, imo.

mark renton

Timmyctc wrote: »

Stranger things have happened. Last time I checked, Stewart Downing was still a professional footballer.

Tom Cleverley too

Mitch Connor

mark renton wrote: »

Tom Cleverley too

personally reckon he has had a very decent season so far. performed well, generally, when played. Not the creative spark I would like him to be, but he has got stuck in with tackles, tracked runners and used the ball well.

dahat

mark renton wrote: »

Tom Cleverley too

I personally think he is best in a 3 man midfield,thought he Carrick and Fellani did well in a game i saw but can't quite remember which one

Timmyctc

mark renton wrote: »

Tom Cleverley too

Bebe would have been a better option there. Cleverly isn't an awful footballer.

Liam O

J. Marston wrote: »

Why even say that? He's signed a new contract and everything.

Pointless. The guy is still a tool.

Jesus Christ. Weren't people saying this about Gill when he started and Kenyon was pissing all over him in the transfer market?

This is a positive signal of intent from him and he was put into a very difficult situation in July with a manager who didn't have the knowledge of the club's scouting or the proper targets in place due to the short amount of notice he got for the job and working for his old club until very close to when he started at United.

Jimmy Iovine

Timmyctc wrote: »

When he scored on Sat there he looked like someone who was struggling to contain their excitement at scoring. Back against Swansea when he set up those two goals he seemed the complete opposite imo.

He was also laughing and joking with RvP when they were walking off after the match. Obviously they would be feeling better after the win but still it was positive to see.