Manchester United Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - 2013/14 mod warning post#7259

Cantona's Collars

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

Does anyone see an improvement in the football we've been playing in the 11 league games Moyes has been in charge now?

Some things have improved a bit but the same problems we had before are there,lack of a quality midfield runner to get beyond the frontmen plus the dearth of quality service from the wings is still not addressed,we are depending on a kid to provide that.At times watching us is like watching a demo of FIFA on a PS1.

Moyes was right earlier in the season when he said we needed quality players.A good result against Arsenal doesn't change that.Playing a CB in midfield while a £27 million signing sits on the bench shows that things aren't quite right plus Rooney having to drop in so much to be the creative midfielder shows the dearth of talent we have in that position.

user2011

Problem is where does Fell slot in?

Utopia Parkway

zerks wrote: »

Let's build on this result & do some decent business in January then suddenly all the doubt will melt away,we will have to do away with this football by numbers we are playing though.

That's not going away. That's how Moyes' teams play.

Cantona's Collars

Red Crow wrote: »

I thought he was terrible. He definitely needs to go at the end of the year, he can't cross a ball anymore. He's a shadow of himself

Val looks on in shock as the ball breaks past Gibbs,not knowing what to do next he stops and waits for Smalling to run onto it instead.

user2011

zerks wrote: »

Some things have improved a bit but the same problems we had before are there,lack of a quality midfield runner to get beyond the frontmen plus the dearth of quality service from the wings is still not addressed,we are depending on a kid to provide that.At times watching us is like watching a demo of FIFA on a PS1.

Moyes was right earlier in the season when he said we needed quality players.A good result against Arsenal doesn't change that.Playing a CB in midfield while a £27 million signing sits on the bench shows that things aren't quite right plus Rooney having to drop in so much to be the creative midfielder shows the dearth of talent we have in that position.

Moyes, like Homer has pointed out that, Moyes also said that he would be happy going into the new season with the same players. So it's situation. Joys of being a fan and trying to read between the lines that are so conflicting.

Cantona's Collars

user2011 wrote: »

Moyes, like Homer has pointed out that, Moyes also said that he would be happy going into the new season with the same players. So it's situation. Joys of being a fan and trying to read between the lines that are so conflicting.

He doesn't want to alienate the players he has but knows some are for the chop very soon.

The_Kew_Tour

Get in!!!!!!!!!!!

The_Kew_Tour

Remember when people said we would be destroyed in Midfield by Arsenal few weeks ago.

Im Eamon Dunphy happy right now baby!!

jaykay74

Is that singing section trial still ongoing ? thought the atmosphere was top notch this afternoon.

Kylo Ren

BREAKING: Phil Jones arrested after being found leaving Old Trafford with £42million in his pocket. Mesut Ozil has been returned to Arsenal.

Heh.

user2011

zerks wrote: »

He doesn't want to alienate the players he has but knows some are for the chop very soon.

Maybe he should keep stum with those types of questions being asked so? Then he stays on the fence and not alienate anyone (fans included).
These things can be read both ways it seems more palatable to be read the way you do but could be read the other too.

Cantona's Collars

Kerrydude1981

Thought a few weeks ago that Big Dave would be a busy man today,but he had a comfortable afternoon,well he did try and take Vidic's head off again but after that he had very little to do.

That punch away from the corner in the first half was top class,ball landed up near the half way line.

Big Dave is the man.

mewe

Happy days! Delighted with that result. Had a bad feelin about this one and thankfully was wrong.

Thought it was an exciting game to watch at times but both teams played poorly at times aswell. Arsenal really lacked the killer instinct right from the start today.

The team morale and fight seems to be improvin now which is great to see. Loved RVP's celebration too!

DM_7

Love to see hard work and love to see it rewarded. United got what they deserved today (compared to games like city where the hard work was not there).

Keep it up and the results will stay mainly positive. It will take time for Moyes fix the issue in midfield and for now he needs to get results from what he has to work with and he is doing it well the last few weeks

The_Kew_Tour

poor old Paul Merson.;)

IvySlayer

Great atmosphere, great work ethic, great pressing, great result

Moyes out

:P

Liam O

Some people on here...

"Jones is crap. Wont win with him. Oh wait he played well and we won..."

"Fellaini is crap."

Kerrydude1981

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

poor old Paul Merson.;)

As he said himself

"That's why making predictions in Premier League football is impossible"

Timmyctc

Its funny that Moyes "negative" approach with the two DM's worked.

Crimson King

Great result and fricking delighted.Sets us up nicely for the International break and to be build upon it afterwards.

Yet again though should have been out of sight from early on in the game and failed to finish the chances. I had visions of the WBA and Southampton games all over again and would not have been surprised to see Bendtner score with that chance at the end of the game, football does not work on fairness or who 'deserves' to win. Arsenal could have walked away with a totally undeserved point today.

Personally I can't wait for when the team finally clicks and starts to punish teams again. No one was able to take advantage so far and walk away with things and United are still only 5 points behind. It really is as good as we can ask for considering some of the performances so far this season.

Winston Payne

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

poor old Paul Merson.

We only scored the one, so he was half-right.


Great performance today. Locked them out completely for the most part and could have had it sewn up before the late scares. Kagawa wasn't exactly running the game but compare his contribution to that of Ozil, Cazorla, Ramsey? And he was good defensively too. The Giggs substitution was wrong, if van Persie was going to come off Kagawa should have been moved to the middle and Fellaini brought on in van Persie's stead. That's the only real black mark about today, Moyes' game management with the substitutions wasn't great.

The_Kew_Tour

Jones best game in a United jersey today?

DM_7

Also meant to say he has some really good players to work with but needs a better midfield to control games more and take pressure off RvP and Rooney. For now players like Jones are really important as he provides a different type of control.

Kylo Ren

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Jones best game in a United jersey today?

He played well against Madrid too.

J. Marston

Kerrydude1981 wrote: »

As he said himself

"That's why making predictions in Premier League football is impossible"

It really is this season, anyone can beat anyone. West Brom should've beaten Chelsea yesterday, Newcastle beating Spurs away today and Chelsea last week, Sunderland beating City today.

kryogen

kryogen wrote: »

I have been all over the 5/4 on United since Wednesday, will put a bit more on before the game I think. Cant say I have a rational reason for it, you could talk about the mental block they have with OT lately, the knack United have of pulling it out of the bag against them and all that but I just have a gut feeling United will win.

Could be mis guided optimism of course.

Got to get on it again @ 13/10 (proof for doubters provided below)

****ing delighted!!



Didn't get to watch the whole game but a clean sheet and a huge win, doesn't get any better then that!

DM_7

Jones plays well in most games he plays at centre midfield.

He processes real power. Carrick is passive, stands off the opposition and focuses more on interceptions (which is fine). Jones will battle for the ball get in the opposition way and disrupt them and provides more protection for defence. He good qualities outside defence like the off the ball run he made for Vals goal last week. He has an influence similar in some ways to Robson or Keane.

In defence he has a good understanding with Evans and uses similar qualities.

Hopefully Moyes keeps playing him centrally and resists from playing him right back when Rafael is unavailable.

Professional Griefer

Gringo180 wrote: »

As an Arsenal fan I dont ever recall been so confident going into a fixture at Old Trafford. Roll on Sunday.

Happy ****ing days.

PhlegmyMoses

Professional Griefer wrote: »

Happy ****ing days.

Haha, I said to him that his confidence may have been a bit misplaced. He wasn't having any of it, though.

KombuchaMshroom

Lads, Fellaini has had 5 starts, surrounded by players playing well below their own standard, playing in a position where the work you do isn't going to standout like that of an Ozil or a Mata.

Give him sometime, seriously.

Unless he has caught the Space Jam type disease that Valencia seems to have he is still capable of being the beast he was for Everton. He just needs a consistent run in the team.

The_Kew_Tour

Going by form book only one team should have won today.

But if I have learned anything from supporting United for 24 years its that we are at our most dangerous when others write us off.

Timmyctc

[QUOTE=KombuchaMshroom;87443024]Lads, Fellaini has had 5 starts, surrounded by players playing well below their own standard, playing in a position where the work you do isn't going to standout like that of an Ozil or a Mata.

Give him sometime, seriously.

Unless he has caught the Space Jam type disease that Valencia seems to have he is still capable of being the beast he was for Everton. He just needs a consistent run in the team.[/QUOTE]

Fell has 5 starts every calls him ****. Kagawa plays **** everyone says its because he never starts o.O


PS Is your name a reference to SoAD or the actual mushroom?

gosplan

Well done Utd. Said the other day you'd beat us provided no one slipped up in defence and it turned out so.

See you at the title deciding return leg!!

KombuchaMshroom

Timmyctc wrote: »

Fell has 5 starts every calls him ****. Kagawa plays **** everyone says its because he never starts o.O


PS Is your name a reference to SoAD or the actual mushroom?

Its a brutal name, picked it randomly years ago but im not gonna pay to change it. But ya it was an SoAD thing.

Timmyctc

KombuchaMshroom wrote: »

Its a brutal name, picked it randomly years ago but im not gonna pay to change it. But ya it was an SoAD thing.

I like it. Everytime I read it it puts "Sugar" in my head

Headshot

Pogba again

**** sake, its killing me at this stage

Your Airbag

Watching the Juve match here and I must say Pogba has just scored one of the best goals you will ever see. He is such a talent.

MagicMarker

Lads start a ****ing Pogba superthread or something will ya?

Timmyctc

MagicMarker wrote: »

Lads start a ****ing Pogba superthread or something will ya?

no bother


EDIT: Just because I love him I'll include Pirlo's

KombuchaMshroom

Poor first touch...

Timmyctc

Fabregas on a hattrick too. Imagine we signed him

Kylo Ren

Here is the Pogba thread.

Timmyctc

Keno wrote: »

Here is the Pogba thread.

Or Here

Unearthly

Match of the day is on in a few mins.

I am going to enjoy this

kryogen

Will be my first proper look at the game, although I will watch the full 90 later after recording it on sky. Don't expect to see much after the goal, would I be right?

Not that I care

Rayne Wooney

It was tough enough watching that match once

Kylo Ren

MOTD didn't show the Rooney penalty claim. Weird.

Shane St.

Delighted w the result and I thought the lads played well today. Suddenly things aren't looking as bad in the league.

The_Kew_Tour

Considering we have had the toughest run of games of any team also things aint so bad.