Manchester United Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - 2013/14 mod warning post#7259

Winston Payne

A left-footed dink too. The Pavel Nedved of strikers.

homerjay2005

how did our players do in general tonight apart from those involved in the 4 "local" games?

The_Kew_Tour

RVP saved Holland blushes. Played full 90 minutes.

Backstreet Moyes

Mars Bar wrote: »

Welbeck has scored again. He's ridiculously clinical for England.

Probably because he plays up front for them.

G.K.

Nuts102 wrote: »

Probably because he plays up front for them.

Played LW (Though essentially as a wide forward as opposed to a winger) today.

Paul Tergat wrote: »

Wish Carrick would just tell England where to go

I think Carrick only didn't play because it was Moldova at home.

I reckon, and certainly hope he'll play against Ukraine on Tuesday, because we'll need his defensive nous.

jebus84

Day 3 and the girlfriend hasn't noticed

Winston Payne

Shaming the rest of us with your dedication there.

IamtheWalrus

jebus84 wrote: »

Day 3 and the girlfriend hasn't noticed

Little bit sad no?





*Gets on motorbike and makes beeline for horizon.

MD1990

jebus84 wrote: »

Day 3 and the girlfriend hasn't noticed

strange all the love Kagawa gets tbh
he hasn't done much for Man U even though he is a very talented player

MagicIRL

IamtheWalrus wrote: »

Little bit sad no?





*Gets on motorbike and makes beeline for horizon.

MD1990 wrote: »

strange all the love Kagawa gets tbh
he hasn't done much for Man U even though he is a very talented player

Remind me never to take either of you to a party. Buzzkills the pair of yiz.

edgecutter

Welbeck does my head in when I watch him playing for England. He rarely looks like he can score for United.

Nalz

Fenix wrote: »

I can't be the only one who thinks that Evil Kagawa account is a load of unfunny ****e?

some gems amongst the rocks though it has to be said

SherlockWatson

Trilla wrote: »

some gems amongst the rocks though it has to be said

Yeah, I don't follow it though cause the best ones are normally posted here or retweeted anyway!

homerjay2005

our number one fan miss Rachel Riley is currently trending on twitter due to wearing a low cut dress on some dancing show on tv.

Winston Payne

edgecutter wrote: »

Welbeck does my head in when I watch him playing for England. He rarely looks like he can score for United.

One of our players playing well does your head in?

Nalz

Winston Payne wrote: »

One of our players playing well does your head in?

Questioning an obvious statement?

alchemist33

homerjay2005 wrote: »

our number one fan miss Rachel Riley is currently trending on twitter due to wearing a low cut dress on some dancing show on tv.

Susana Reid too, apparently. Something to while away the dark winter hours before MOTD comes on

Rayne Wooney

jebus84 wrote: »

Day 3 and the girlfriend hasn't noticed

You should take it to the next level and start adding a picture of him every second day, it would be funny if you had a house full of Shinji's and she didn't notice

Cantona's Collars

Hopefully Woodward can pull off this deal,it's reported to be worth £1 Billion.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-2414412/Manchester-United-sign-Nike-deal--Charles-Sale.html#ixzz2eEaPmp20

Mitch Connor

zerks wrote: »

Hopefully Woodward can pull off this deal,it's reported to be worth £1 Billion.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-2414412/Manchester-United-sign-Nike-deal--Charles-Sale.html#ixzz2eEaPmp20

He's preparing a counter offer of 500million as we speak....

To be honest, I'm not arsed what figure it reaches - I have no faith or expectation that the money would be used for the benifit of the club itself.Just more money for the Glazers to take out.

Cantona's Collars

I was one of those who worried about the debt that was laden upon the club but the sponsorship deals we have pulled off are real moneyspinners.I had my Liverpool supporting mates laughing and awaiting our demise ala Leeds etc. but that hasn't happened,all we need now is for Woodward to learn how the transfer market works.

J. Marston

zerks wrote: »

Hopefully Woodward can pull off this deal,it's reported to be worth £1 Billion.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-2414412/Manchester-United-sign-Nike-deal--Charles-Sale.html#ixzz2eEaPmp20

But with Puma (Arsenal), adidas (Chelsea) and Warrior (Liverpool) all investing considerable funds elsewhere in the Premier League, Nike are still strong favourites to keep their swoosh on the United shirt.

That should help us squeeze every penny out of Nike. They're not sponsoring any big Premier League team at the moment (Excluding Arsenal, but that's done at the end of the season).

I kinda agree with with Mitch though, we could get loads of money but still end up balking at players as soon as the price tag passes £30 million.

alchemist33

Ed could actually be quite good at the commercial side. If only he was left at that and somebody better took over the football side

NTMK

alchemist33 wrote: »

Ed could actually be quite good at the commercial side. If only he was left at that and somebody better took over the football side

He is a ****ing god at getting money for the club, but Dealing with other clubs and transfers is not something he would be used to. He is ridiculously hard to deal with and gets a lot more money out of sponsors than most but this could be a massive problem with buying players as united literally could make sponsors jump through hoops in order to sponsor the team where as we have to deal with the whims of the clubs entertaining the sale of the player

Im happy for him to stay as CEO if they someone to deal with the football side of things

Liam O

How do people know that he's so difficult to deal with on transfers? Maybe he got a raw deal from Moyes telling him not to move for the likes of Thiago and Strootman this Summer when his training was probably building up to these deals with all the previous scouting done on them? Could have been sent on a wild goose chase with Fabregas. Moyes took a while looking at other targets and came up with Herrera too late for a reasonable deal to be done and he sorted the move for Coentrao very quickly before Madrid reneged.

People are using far too short a sample time to judge him imo. It was always going to be a difficult Summer and we wound up with a perfect fit for the needs in Fellaini and nearly a nice versatile addition in Coentrao. If Carrick gets injured there is someone to play there and there's someone to partner him he doesn't. Another body in midfield should have been signed but I'm happy to leave the big signings for next Summer at the moment and believe the current squad has more than enough to win the league and be competitive in Europe. It's a shame about the tough start as it came when people were probably overly distracted by off-field issues.

miralize

J. Marston wrote: »

That should help us squeeze every penny out of Nike. They're not sponsoring any big Premier League team at the moment (Excluding Arsenal, but that's done at the end of the season).

I kinda agree with with Mitch though, we could get loads of money but still end up balking at players as soon as the price tag passes £30 million.

Dig at City ?

J. Marston

miralize wrote: »

Dig at City ?

I didn't mean it to be really. They're going to challenge for and win trophies, no doubt, but they don't have the global appeal (shirts = £$€) of United, Liverpool, Arsenal and Chelsea.

NTMK

miralize wrote: »

Dig at City ?

did Nike finish pillaging Umbro?

Rayne Wooney

Is that Ashley Young in the Lucozade sport ad where there's guys running on treadmills?

He must have a twin brother if not

How Soon Is Now

Im sorry......

Remember this.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRwttTdy0JI

Kylo Ren

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

Im sorry......

Remember this.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRwttTdy0JI

Daz me new Bebo flashbox. Tnx.

kryogen

alchemist33 wrote: »

Ed could actually be quite good at the commercial side. If only he was left at that and somebody better took over the football side

Dont think its in any doubt that Woodward is excellent at the commercial side of things.

homerjay2005

hopefully this is true, other reports suggesting united were baffled at the outrage over the summer farce.

Manchester United owners want answers after lack of world class summer signings
7 Sep 2013 22:33
Ed Woodward failed to bring a marquee signing to Old Trafford, and now faces a fight to repair his reputation



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Manchester United's failure to land a marquee signing for manager David Moyes has not gone down well with the club's owners.

Sunday Mirror Sport understands that new vice-chairman Ed Woodward was expected to deliver at least one stellar name this summer - with Cristiano Ronaldo and Cesc Fabregas at the top of his hit-list.

Now the Florida-based Glazier family want an explanation as to why Woodward couldn't land any of the club's top targets - and also want answers about why the club’s pursuit of players descended into farce.

United’s only significant signing was £27.5million Marouane Fellaini.

But the fact the Belgian arrived from Everton just minutes before the deadline, for a fee that was £4m above a buy-out clause that expired at the end of July, has also not been well received by United’s prudent owners.

It has left Woodward facing a fight to repair his reputation, just a few months after he was ­promoted to become the club’s deal-maker following the departure of David Gill from Old Trafford.

He was tasked with bringing in at least one world-class player to help Moyes with the challenge of replacing Sir Alex ­Ferguson as manager.

And even boasted ­during United’s pre-season tour that there were limitless funds available.

Discussions about bringing Ronaldo back to Old Trafford took place at the highest level last season.

And the belief that the ­Portuguese star could be prised from Real Madrid was strengthened by his contract stand-off at the Bernabeu and the ­Spanish club’s world-record chase for Gareth Bale.

When those plans were shelved when it became clear Madrid would not sell, United turned their sights on Fabregas — only to have three bids for the ex-Arsenal midfielder rejected by Barcelona.

They will continue to monitor his situation at the Nou Camp with a view to a January approach.

Fellaini was on Moyes’ wish-list when he ­arrived, but there were names ahead of the Belgian.

Thiago Alcantara was a prime target, but doubts over whether the young Spaniard could cope with the physical demands of the Premier League ­enabled Bayern Munich to snatch him from Barca.

There was further ­embarrassment with a bid to sign £36m-rated Ander ­Herrera from ­Athletic Bilbao when United were hamstrung by Spain’s tax laws.

And with Everton ­refusing to budge on a £20m valuation of Leighton Baines, a deal to bring in Real Madrid left-back Fabio Coentrao on loan collapsed. United also failed with late bids for Real Madrid’s Sami Khedira and Wesley ­Sneijder of Galatasaray.



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Lord TSC

homerjay2005 wrote: »

hopefully this is true, other reports suggesting united were baffled at the outrage over the summer farce.

Does that not suggest these types of stories should be completely ignored? No quotes, no sources other than vague, un-provable ones. Different papers posting stories that are in complete contradiction to one another, achieving nothing but giving people who want to believe a specific stance something to point to as "proof".

RobertKK

It is hard to know what to believe.

Obviously did not get everyone they wanted, we know that. So I expect questions will be raised there as a left back seemed to be in great demand along with another midfielder.

Hopefully lessons will be learned. Ed Woodward should stick at bringing the money in, one can't fault him there. But he has to either give the job to someone else or be more realistic when it comes to buyout clauses and in the case of players like Fabregas, at least bid a bit closer to their value so the club is somewhat interested before a higher bid is made.

Woodward is a clever man, but I bet he has learned a lot during the transfer period.

homerjay2005

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

Does that not suggest these types of stories should be completely ignored?

so you believe the one i just posted then?

the general feeling out there is United board see nothing wrong with the summer, hence why i said i hope the latest article is true. not sure what your point is to be honest.

d22ontour

"Thiago Alcantara was a prime target, but doubts over whether the young Spaniard could cope with the physical demands of the Premier League ­enabled Bayern Munich to snatch him from Barca.

There was further ­embarrassment with a bid to sign £36m-rated Ander ­Herrera from ­Athletic Bilbao when United were hamstrung by Spain’s tax laws.

And with Everton ­refusing to budge on a £20m valuation of Leighton Baines, a deal to bring in Real Madrid left-back Fabio Coentrao on loan collapsed. United also failed with late bids for Real Madrid’s Sami Khedira and Wesley ­Sneijder of Galatasaray."

Most of this is tabloid bullshít.

We never bid for Thiago and the truth is he was tapped up by Pep months ago and was only going there.

Cesc bids were a joke, that much can't be argued.

We never met Bilbao's buyout clause for Herrara as the bid was underneath their buyout valuation, nothing to do with tax laws whatsoever.

Everton were not going to sell us Baines and Fellaini, they probably didn't want to sell both of them to us in the same window.
Real plugged the plug on the Coentrao deal, I guess he wants to replace Evra sooner rather than later.

Kheidira was a strange bid, maybe to put pressure on Everton over Fellaini ?

Sneijder ? Have we ever put an official bid in for him ?

RasTa

Due to various logistical issues and the large number of away fans, the singing section trial will not take place at the league cup game.

Promising news from #mufc with regards to the trial of the singing section, which could take place in the near future.

Oh well, Pete Boyle is involved.

MagicIRL

d22ontour wrote: »

Sneijder ? Have we ever put an official bid in for him ?

Can't have a transfer window without Sneijder being linked with United to be fair.

Nalz

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

Im sorry......

Remember this.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRwttTdy0JI

Epic lyrics there

"down and gay" , "we'll never let the badge" what the fúck?

:o:o:o:o

Jimmy Iovine

Trilla wrote: »

Epic lyrics there

"down and gay" , "we'll never let the badge" what the fúck?

:o:o:o:o

****ty songwriting 101:

Never let making sense get in the way of a good rhyme.

Lord TSC

homerjay2005 wrote: »

so you believe the one i just posted then?

No, I don't believe either, or at least, what I believe is not based on tabloid stories that are obviously just trying to sell papers as opposed to good journalism. My point is both stories ("United are happy and baffled" and "The Glaziers are furious") both contradict each other and thus BOTH should be ignored.

the general feeling out there is United board see nothing wrong with the summer, hence why i said i hope the latest article is true. not sure what your point is to be honest.

"General feeling"? I've seen one story banded round for a few days saying that, but I don't think it's the "general feeling". Unless, as I mentioned above, someone wants to believe that United think everything is ok, and use that story to back their point up.

Headshot

When will saf's new book be out?

Lord TSC

Headshot wrote: »

When will saf's new book be out?

Amazon have it listed as October 24th.

Headshot

Hopefully it wil be explosive

Iv read that he'll be touring in Dublin too, I would love to go to that

jebus84

Headshot wrote: »

When will saf's new book be out?

I think 24th of october and his doing a book signing in a few places should becoming to dublin as well i think

Discodog

Headshot wrote: »

Hopefully it wil be explosive

Iv read that he'll be touring in Dublin too, I would love to go to that

He's hardly likely to upset his employers & current players.

Headshot

Discodog wrote: »

He's hardly likely to upset his employers & current players.

Why wouldnt it?

He has nothing to lose now. Id be shocked if the Rooney gate isnt brought up

Rubber_Soul

Discodog wrote: »

He's hardly likely to upset his employers & current players.

Doubt he'll say anything negative about the owners but according to Daniel Taylor Utd are starting to get worried that Rooney in particular could feature heavily.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2013/sep/07/alex-ferguson-book-wayne-rooney

dahat

Discodog wrote: »

He's hardly likely to upset his employers & current players.

Hardly going to write a book complementing them? I'd say the Glazer's are safe but players and ex-staff will get roasted imo.