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children of irish people are they automatically irish?

  • 06-09-2013 12:13am
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    quick question, might be a bit simple, sorry i dont know but is a child of two irish citizens automatically an irish citizen?

    they are entitled to an irish passport obviously, does this make them citizens?
    do they have to actually live in ireland to be citizens?
    is this just an automatic thing or do they have to apply?

    what about someone of just one irish citizen? they are also entitled to a passport, can they be citizens? do they have to live in ireland for a certain amount of time?


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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 14,535 Mod ✭✭✭✭johnnyskeleton


    There is a difference between being entitled to citizenship and actually being a citizen


  • Posts: 18,749 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    There is a difference between being entitled to citizenship and actually being a citizen

    so what is the diference, sorry now for my igorance


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,716 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    If the child is born in Ireland, it is an Irish citizen from birth.

    If it is born outside Ireland, and either parent was born in Ireland, then the child is an Irish citizen from birth.

    If it is born outside Ireland, and both parents were also born outside Ireland, but at least one grandparent was born in Ireland, the child is entitled to become an Irish citizen. This right is exercised by registering the birth of the child in the Foreign Births Register maintained by the Irish Department of Foreign Affairs. Once this is done, the child is an Irish citizen from the date of registration (but not retrospectively from date of birth).

    If the child is born outside Ireland, and both the parents were born outside Ireland, and all the grandparents were born outside Ireland, then the child is not an Irish citizen, and does not have a right to become an Irish citizen by virtue of its descent from Irish citizens. But it might acquire Irish citizenship by other means, e.g. the Irish citizen parents come to live in Ireland, bringing the child with them, and after it has completed the appropriate residence period the child can apply for citizenship by naturalisation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,648 ✭✭✭Cody Pomeray


    bubblypop wrote: »
    quick question, might be a bit simple, sorry i dont know but is a child of two irish citizens automatically an irish citizen?
    Were one (or both) of the parents born in Ireland?

    If YES = The child is automatically an Irish citizen.

    If NO = The child may be an Irish citizen, depending on the parents' residence, or depending on the grandparents' residence, or their eligibility for the foregin births' register.
    they are entitled to an irish passport obviously, does this make them citizens?
    If the child is entitled to a passport, the child is a fortiori a citizen. Citizenship precedes the passport. There are conceivable situatins where a citizen might not be given a passport.
    do they have to actually live in ireland to be citizens?
    No
    is this just an automatic thing or do they have to apply?
    There may be circumstances where you have to apply. If you can give the exact details, we can tell you what the general rules are.


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