Austria vs Ireland - WCQ Tuesday 7.45

Kerrydude1981 · 10-09-2013 8:38pm

Brady agrees wit Eammo :eek:

_Kaiser_ · 10-09-2013 8:38pm

simongurnick wrote: »

Irish supporters hoping the team lose....sad.

I'm thinking longer term, greater good etc

Despite a few half-chances I haven't seen any urgency or hunger from the team to win this. Austria are no better which makes it even harder to stomach.

ambid · 10-09-2013 8:39pm

FearDark wrote: »

Thoughts on Long?

Personally I think he's the most overrated Irish player in the team.

Doesn't do enough for me and has an absolute ATROCIOUS scoring record for club and country.

He always looks like a guy who needs serious coaching to me. He is very good technically and physically - and when he does score he always looks like he should score much more (like his excellent goal against England in May).

I'd like to see him do less outside the box and focus more on getting into goalscoring positions in the penalty area.

He scored something like 8 goals for WBA last year - he really should be getting 12-15 in a mid table Premier League side. I think he's a terrific player but agree his goalscoring record isn't good enough - but I think that could be fixed if he refocuses on getting into better positions.

Laois_Man · 10-09-2013 8:39pm

Kaiser2000 wrote: »

Yea, I hate to say it but I'd nearly hate to see us nick it as it'll only validate the awful approach and tactics from the manager for another game

Wise up. We still need to finish 3rd in this group for the sake of our Euro 2016 seeding. It doesn't matter a great deal whether Trapp goes this week or next month.

aindriu80 · 10-09-2013 8:39pm

Mushy wrote: »

I'm happy I had pizza there, made it seem the half flew by!

I making do with popcorn and the first half has been difficult.

Dunphy is on about Wes Hoolahan but we kinda needed a player like that 5 years ago.

edgecutter · 10-09-2013 8:40pm

Subs that trap will make later in the second half.

Cox for Walters,
Sammon for Long,
McClean for Pilkington.

Dempsey · 10-09-2013 8:40pm

FearDark wrote: »

Thoughts on Long?

Personally I think he's the most overrated Irish player in the team.

Doesn't do enough for me and has an absolute ATROCIOUS scoring record for club and country.

Carbon Copy of Kevin Doyle

If he gets an injury that impacts his athleticism, his career will nose dive in the same manner because its all he has.

simongurnick · 10-09-2013 8:40pm

Kaiser2000 wrote: »

I'm thinking longer term, greater good etc

Despite a few half-chances I haven't seen any urgency or hunger from the team to win this. Austria are no better which makes it even harder to stomach.

Longer term?? The Greater good??

It's important that we finish third to maintain our seeding!
I'm no expert but I have never seen a sport where losing is better in the long run.

That_Guy · 10-09-2013 8:40pm

Is Dunphy riding Hoolahan or something?

vicwatson · 10-09-2013 8:40pm

Kit kat chunky - a waste of 275 calories

Laois_Man · 10-09-2013 8:41pm

ambid wrote: »

He always looks like a guy who needs serious coaching to me. He is very good technically and physically - and when he does score he always looks like he should score much more (like his excellent goal against England in May).

I'd like to see him do less outside the box and focus more on getting into goalscoring positions in the penalty area.

He scored something like 8 goals for WBA last year - he really should be getting 12-15 in a mid table Premier League side. I think he's a terrific player but agree his goalscoring record isn't good enough - but I think that could be fixed if he refocuses on getting into better positions.

He's mostly played in wide positions by West Brom

listermint · 10-09-2013 8:41pm

ambid wrote: »

He always looks like a guy who needs serious coaching to me. He is very good technically and physically - and when he does score he always looks like he should score much more (like his excellent goal against England in May).

I'd like to see him do less outside the box and focus more on getting into goalscoring positions in the penalty area.

He scored something like 8 goals for WBA last year - he really should be getting 12-15 in a mid table Premier League side. I think he's a terrific player but agree his goalscoring record isn't good enough - but I think that could be fixed if he refocuses on getting into better positions.

He doesnt know when to take a chance and take it on. He is not ballsy enough tbh. He has talent there but its the attitude to say fk this its mine. Instead he religates to taking the safe option whenever on the ball, be it take another touch or pass it back out of the box. Should be going for it. take it on!! your a striker be greedy sometimes

Lennonist · 10-09-2013 8:41pm

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

So are we, though.

They have several Champions League players in their squad. We have zero.

Ah will ya stop. Austria are ****e, if we were properly organised and played with a bit of belief we'd batter this lot. Hoolahan sitting on the bench while Shane Long struggles with low confidence.

Mr.Nice Guy · 10-09-2013 8:41pm

Hoolahan had a chance to shine against Wales and did not make a good case for himself.

The way this guy is hyped up by Dunphy you'd think he was Fabregas or something.

listermint · 10-09-2013 8:42pm

That_Guy wrote: »

Is Dunphy riding Hoolahan or something?

Why ? its an obvious change to make early in the half would you not agree ?

simongurnick · 10-09-2013 8:42pm

Pilkington has been muck

Stevecw · 10-09-2013 8:43pm

McClean or Brady for Walters please

Mr.Nice Guy · 10-09-2013 8:43pm

Lennonist wrote:

Ah will ya stop. Austria are ****e, if we were properly organised and played with a bit of belief we'd batter this lot. Hoolahan sitting on the bench while Shane Long struggles with low confidence.

You must be joking. They're the ones with the world class player.

newballsplease · 10-09-2013 8:44pm

Stevecw wrote: »

My 0-0 bet is looking good. Such a nothing game so far between 2 very average sides.

We get it.... You have 0-0 at 8/1 (as you've stated at least 3 times now)

I actually hope theres a goal now just to sicken you.

Lando Griffin · 10-09-2013 8:44pm

I cant understand how Paul Greens last two transfers were free ones.
Must have his granny as an agent.

Banjaxed82 · 10-09-2013 8:45pm

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Hoolahan had a chance to shine against Wales and did not make a good case for himself.

The way this guy is hyped up by Dunphy you'd think he was Fabregas or something.

Everyone was sh!te against Wales, including the welsh.

Austria are dire. Hoolahan possesses abilities that can easily carve through teams of this quality. Nobody is saying he's the messiah. He can do a job and that's the point.

tayto lover · 10-09-2013 8:46pm

The stewards caught 10 Irish lads crossing the wall at half-time.
They made them go back in to watch the second-half.

That_Guy · 10-09-2013 8:46pm

listermint wrote: »

Why ? its an obvious change to make early in the half would you not agree ?

I'd like him to come on yes. He's arguably our most creative player but I don't think he's the world beater that Dunphy thinks he is.

I'd probably take McCarthy off, bring Hoolahan in his place and take Walters off and put Brady on.

_Kaiser_ · 10-09-2013 8:47pm

No changes for Ireland.. Quelle suprise!

.jacksparrow. · 10-09-2013 8:49pm

Seems mcarthys head has been elsewhere these last 2 games, don't blame him with such a big move to everton, stupid time to have the transfer window.

gandalf · 10-09-2013 8:50pm

Kaiser2000 wrote: »

No changes for Ireland.. Quelle suprise!

Sure they are doing exactly what Trap wants!

That_Guy · 10-09-2013 8:50pm

Clarke....

kona · 10-09-2013 8:51pm

why is pilkington taking the corners? Surely his height would be of use on the other end of the delivery?

syklops · 10-09-2013 8:51pm

We've lost John O'Shea. Like things couldn't get any worse.

roanoke · 10-09-2013 8:51pm

Ciaran Clark on. Please save the David Luiz moments for Villa this time.

klose · 10-09-2013 8:51pm

Thought o shea had been sent off for a moment there

aindriu80 · 10-09-2013 8:51pm

I just hope we don't drop down in our next qualification campaign.

Kerrydude1981 · 10-09-2013 8:52pm

One sub used up,Cox and Sammon playing rock paper scissors on the sideline,winner comes on next

Mr.Nice Guy · 10-09-2013 8:52pm

Banjaxed82 wrote: »

Everyone was sh!te against Wales, including the welsh.

Austria are dire. Hoolahan possesses abilities that can easily carve through teams of this quality. Nobody is saying he's the messiah. He can do a job and that's the point.

Austria are much better than Wales. If he can't do it against Wales in a friendly, what makes you so sure he'll do it against Austria in a qualifier?

Laois_Man · 10-09-2013 8:52pm

Banjaxed82 wrote: »

Everyone was sh!te against Wales, including the welsh.

Austria are dire. Hoolahan possesses abilities that can easily carve through teams of this quality. Nobody is saying he's the messiah. He can do a job and that's the point.

It's getting a bit like the old days with Dunphy's rants about Andy Reid tho. Hoolihan's legendary status grows with each game he DOESN'T play!

bizmark · 10-09-2013 8:52pm

Loses ball and falls on arse ...kinda beautifully sums up ireland

stampydmonkey · 10-09-2013 8:52pm

roanoke wrote: »

Ciaran Clark on. Please save the David Luiz moments for Villa this time.

Maybe hes going 3 at the back with clarke in midfield

clsmooth · 10-09-2013 8:53pm

If Cox comes on the efffing right wing ill go mad. Give Brady a run

tayto lover · 10-09-2013 8:53pm

We could sneak a goal soon.

Dempsey · 10-09-2013 8:53pm

Spare a thought for Northern Ireland, currently losing to Luxembourg! LOL

syklops · 10-09-2013 8:53pm

Another long ball to nowhere.

aramush · 10-09-2013 8:53pm

Paul Green, surprisingly, not playing ****e.

Moist Bread · 10-09-2013 8:54pm

Sorry, I have to say it again, Green is having a really good game.

That_Guy · 10-09-2013 8:54pm

Look at that. 3 players in their half when we've got the ball. No pass on, we pass the ball backwards and lets Austria players get back into position.