America's Cup

HeidiHeidi

That current line is mad!

Any idea what race someone went over in? I'm going to have a look at the near-capsize later (race 8, I think), I'd have a look for that if I knew which one it was.

Unless Oracle sinks, this race is a gonner. That poor driver's nerves will be shot in the next start :eek:

Ghost Train

Great start for USA, would be worried with such a good start to today that the 2nd race will be a disaster for them

dloob

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

That current line is mad!

Any idea what race someone went over in? I'm going to have a look at the near-capsize later (race 8, I think), I'd have a look for that if I knew which one it was.

Unless Oracle sinks, this race is a gonner. That poor driver's nerves will be shot in the next start :eek:

Looks like it was the race one start.

Stheno

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

That current line is mad!

Any idea what race someone went over in? I'm going to have a look at the near-capsize later (race 8, I think), I'd have a look for that if I knew which one it was.

Unless Oracle sinks, this race is a gonner. That poor driver's nerves will be shot in the next start :eek:

Race 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFjxEfg_mEw about 37 seconds in they go over the side, and are picked up by the rescue boat.

Different rules

Americas Cup Rule 41 a) Once a person has been removed from the yacht, that person shall not be returned or replaced.( this should cover the accidental falling into the water.
or AC Rule 47.2 - A yacht shall not permit any person on board to intentionally leave unless ill or injured, except as a result of a capsize, a person leaving shall not be accepted back on board nor replaced during the race.
Basically if you end up in the water that's it you are not allowed back on.

HeidiHeidi

Stheno wrote: »

Race 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFjxEfg_mEw about 37 seconds in they go over the side, and are picked up by the rescue boat.

Different rules

Americas Cup Rule 41 a) Once a person has been removed from the yacht, that person shall not be returned or replaced.( this should cover the accidental falling into the water.
or AC Rule 47.2 - A yacht shall not permit any person on board to intentionally leave unless ill or injured, except as a result of a capsize, a person leaving shall not be accepted back on board nor replaced during the race.
Basically if you end up in the water that's it you are not allowed back on.

That's interesting! The polar opposite to the normal pesky rule that you must finish with the same number of crew you started with. Mind you, it's a big incentive not to fall over!

Stheno

Dean Barker looks like he wants to kill someone in his interview

The commentary when the two go over is funnyish

"Man overboard, man overboard"
"keep going guys!"

HeidiHeidi

Stheno wrote: »

Dean Barker looks like he wants to kill someone in his interview

The commentary when the two go over is funnyish

"Man overboard, man overboard"
"keep going guys!"

:D:D

I always feel sorry for sportsmen (generic term) subjected to those instant in-your-face interviews - they do it at Wimbledon as well, the loser has hardly left the court when they've a mike stuck in their face and asked to spill their feelings about it all. I know what I'd say if it were me!!! At least the loser at Wimbledon can go home afterwards and lick their wounds, poor Barker has to get back on the helm and get beaten all over again :eek:

On another note entirely, did I hear something along the way that NZ promised to do it next time on monohulls if they win? Watching those shots from 199whenever, I had a big pang of nostalgia for two sails and a spinny... I'd really love to see it back on "normal" boats. (Highly unlikely, I realise!)

Stheno

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

On another note entirely, did I hear something along the way that NZ promised to do it next time on monohulls if they win? Watching those shots from 199whenever, I had a big pang of nostalgia for two sails and a spinny... I'd really love to see it back on "normal" boats. (Highly unlikely, I realise!)

There has been speculation but I don't think they have made any definite statement.

HeidiHeidi

What a nifty five-minute countdown flag system they have!

Stheno

Has anyone who has paid attention noticed if Grant Dalton is still onboard ?

dloob

Stheno wrote: »

Has anyone who has paid attention noticed if Grant Dalton is still onboard ?

He isn't on board for this one.

HeidiHeidi

Woohoo!!!!

HeidiHeidi

Stheno wrote: »

Has anyone who has paid attention noticed if Grant Dalton is still onboard ?

Was on for the first, but not for the second.

Stheno

Oooh crap

VinLieger

Why the hell did NZ give away that starboard????

Ghost Train

Excellent

HeidiHeidi

Oh FFS!

neris

Kiwis trying to well to throw this whole event

VinLieger

Throwing away a starboard to go for a bizarre lee bow attempt on the boundary? I dunno whos calling tactics on NZ but they need a smack

HeidiHeidi

Stephen Lee hasn't been in touch with the NZ team at all this week, has he?

Stheno

Jeepers, that's unreal A minute behind now

HeidiHeidi

omg, they've opened up about a minute's lead coming into the last run :eek:

HeidiHeidi

Those offboard shots of the boats as they round the mark are brilliant - pontoon way up out of the water, and the crew look like little ants lined up along it

HeidiHeidi

Over a km behind :eek::eek::eek:

neris

Id say new zealand joe duffy will be having a discussion of roy keane proportions tomorrow over this 2nd race

neris

Wonder is that larrys big stink pot with the chopper

dloob

The kiwis must be really rueing that race that hit the time limit when they were under 1 mile from the finish.

HeidiHeidi

dloob wrote: »

The kiwis must be really rueing that race that hit the time limit when they were under 1 mile from the finish.

That is the absolute killer of the whole thing!

I didn't see it - there was a luffing match after the start - who was luffing who? If it was NZ doing the luffing, I'd be off committing quite hara kiri somewhere!

dloob

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

That is the absolute killer of the whole thing!

I didn't see it - there was a luffing match after the start - who was luffing who? If it was NZ doing the luffing, I'd be off committing quite hara kiri somewhere!

Oracle luffed them at the start of that race, took a long time too.

Stheno

If you take away the penalties it's now 10-8 to Oracle.

HeidiHeidi

Not sure I can bear to watch the interview with the NZ skipper......

Cookie_Monster

NZ really are doing their absolute best to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

dloob

After the last few days you would fancy oracle for the win.

VinLieger

Im certain NZ had an overlap at the start of that 2nd race but the jury seems to be blind to anything not in oracles favour.

Larry really has thought of everything from the ridiculous wind limit, to the 40 minute time limit so as to help his grubby hands keep hold of the cup

HeidiHeidi

Oh how I wish I could lipread!

HeidiHeidi

They seem to have let Dean Barker off his daily torture session today

VinLieger

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

They seem to have let Dean Barker off his daily torture session today

More likely he's thrown the camera and mic overboard

Stheno

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

They seem to have let Dean Barker off his daily torture session today

True.

You could hear Oracle at the start shouting that NZ had an overlap, the commentators even mentioned it.

pedroeibar1

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

That's interesting! The polar opposite to the normal pesky rule that you must finish with the same number of crew you started with. Mind you, it's a big incentive not to fall over!

There once was a famous/infamous incident in a certain offshore race on our South Coast when the OOD erred and said a mark was to be left to port (should have been starboard else the race would have been over in hours) and all the skippers agreed by RT to leave it to starboard, except for one, who was happy to finish first despite vocal grumblings from his crew. Just before the finish line one of his crew jumped overboard and as the boat finished one down it was disqualified. That I know to be true, but - unverified - I also heard that the skipper was so annoyed he refused to return to pick the guy up and he had to rescued by a fishing boat.

miss no stars

And quote of the thread has to go to...

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

It won't be over with this race, or I'll eat my mainsail.

Regarding overboards...

Stheno wrote: »

"Man overboard, man overboard"
"keep going guys!"

There was an incident in nearby waters where the overboard waved their own boat on (screaming at them to keep racing) as they were doing well, causing another racing boat to go collect the MOB :rolleyes:

HeidiHeidi

I just watched the man (men!) overboard clip - the absolute calm with which it was casually mentioned by the other is amazing! And then the "keep going, guys, keep going" in a deadpan voice. It truly is a different world on those boats!

But that still wasn't an overshooting-the-runway overboard - I can't imagine that SOMEONE hasn't gone sliding down the trampoline and just kept going :pac:

And as for the near-capsize..... phew!

I think I'm just going to have to suck up whatever O2 decide to bill me for streaming tomorrow night - having come late to the party, I can't possibly miss the ultimate in Lazarus-like comeback climaxes!!!

the beer revolu

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

I think I'm just going to have to suck up whatever O2 decide to bill me for streaming tomorrow night - having come late to the party, I can't possibly miss the ultimate in Lazarus-like comeback climaxes!!!

Call them. You might be able to buy a data bundle

neris

http://dlo9dp2r69urx.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/barkerfacepalm.jpg

HeidiHeidi

I saw that last night... The poor fella!

Also saw this this morning, gave me a laugh - no pressure this evening then......

http://sandysviews.com/2013/09/24/an-open-letter-to-emirates-team-new-zealand-from-team-new-zealand/

Kerryite

Hi all,

This may have been asked/answered before (sorry!) - does anybody know how/where I can watch the action tonight? Or a site with good updates?

Thanks!

(A Kiwi exile with a sudden interest in the race....)

HeidiHeidi

Kerryite wrote: »

Hi all,

This may have been asked/answered before (sorry!) - does anybody know how/where I can watch the action tonight? Or a site with good updates?

Thanks!

(A Kiwi exile with a sudden interest in the race....)

There'll be a live feed at 9pm here http://www.youtube.com/user/AmericasCup?feature=csp-in-feed

All previous races are there to watch in the meantime to keep you occupied and get you in the mood

Kerryite

Fantastic - thanks! I lived in ChCh for 6 years and had a great catchup this morning with a friend there about the races; it was great to get some of the local fever!

errlloyd

Its been an absolute thriller so far. I hope ETNZ win it tonight, but honestly, I think I've been converted by these boats. I dunno if I'd change them...

Stheno

errlloyd wrote: »

Its been an absolute thriller so far. I hope ETNZ win it tonight, but honestly, I think I've been converted by these boats. I dunno if I'd change them...

I'd love to see ENTZ win, lot of speculation that they will not be challenging for the next cup due to lack of finance if they do not.

Useless factoid, apparently this is now the longest Americas Cup ever

HeidiHeidi

Aw crap, is coverage breaking down for everyone, or is it just that my mobile wifi can't cope???