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Who are the candidates for the Ireland job?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,748 ✭✭✭✭Lovely Bloke


    SlickRic wrote: »
    a Big Ron/El Tel/ Fletch from Dream Team.

    fyp


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,320 ✭✭✭v3ttel


    ebbsy wrote: »
    Keane - I would'nt watch them and would hope they finish bottom.

    Why would you ever want your country to finish bottom of a group, regardless of whether you like the manager or not? Mind boggling.
    ebbsy wrote: »
    Lennon - that would be interesting, inspirational if nothing else.

    Do you honestly see him leaving Celtic to manage Ireland?
    ebbsy wrote: »
    Kerr - Clueless.

    Chris H - See Kerr.

    Chris Hughton - clueless? He did a fine job at Newcastle (most people will agree his sacking was a complete surprise). He had a very good season at Norwich last season, and is building a good team. Calling him clueless is a joke, tbh. He wouldn't leave a very good Premiership job for us.


  • Subscribers Posts: 32,855 ✭✭✭✭5starpool


    I'm humming the dream team theme tune now, damn you slick. I wouldn't mind but I probably only watched the first couple of seasons, if that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,036 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    SlickRic wrote: »
    a Big Ron/El Tel Dream Team.

    Suit them perfectly. They could manage the team, then sell the punters some used furniture off the back of a truck outside the stadium afterwards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,109 ✭✭✭RikkFlair


    The FAI may go for their "World Class Management" option again.

    So, Kevin Kilbane with Otto Rehhagel as International Football Consultant on How To Win Tournaments with 11 Workhorses.


  • Posts: 8,016 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    What about Trigger?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,748 ✭✭✭✭Lovely Bloke


    What about Trigger?

    with Barnes?

    What could go wrong?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,535 ✭✭✭Radharc na Sleibhte


    Ian Dowie doin anything?


  • Posts: 8,016 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Yeah Trigger, Barnes & big Tony Casc as the team dietician
    Ian Dowie doin anything?

    Looking beautiful on SSN let's leave him there.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    Owen Coyle' name might get thrown about as someone that is managing currently.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,427 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,427 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    razorblunt wrote: »
    Owen Coyle' name might get thrown about as someone that is managing currently.

    Not sure he would leave Wigan this soon after joining them, Dave Whelan probably is paying him a tidy sum to get them back to the premiership.

    Trap should have been sacked after the Germany game, then he would have been a good call.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,335 ✭✭✭smackbunnybaby


    I got the impression Denis O'Brien stumped up cash for Trap, because he really wanted us to go somewhere after the Staunton debacle.

    I had assumed we wouldn't be getting a handout this time around, the FAI are on their own?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,427 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    I got the impression Denis O'Brien stumped up cash for Trap, because he really wanted us to go somewhere after the Staunton debacle.

    I had assumed we wouldn't be getting a handout this time around, the FAI are on their own?

    And I think he has said as much, that's why realistically you are not looking at a high profile manager than currently has a job

    Hopefully he will pay off the rest of Traps contract too by the way


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,553 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


    ambid wrote: »
    In fairness, O'Neill was far better than "decent".

    He had Leicester competing in the top half of the Premier League and had Celtic competing for European trophies. Neither club has come anywhere close to that level of success since he left. He was far better than merely "decent" at each of those clubs.

    One Uefa cup run masks alot of failure in the champions league


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,748 ✭✭✭✭Lovely Bloke


    I got the impression Denis O'Brien stumped up cash for Trap, because he really wanted us to go somewhere after the Staunton debacle.

    I had assumed we wouldn't be getting a handout this time around, the FAI are on their own?

    Is O'Brien paying for Trapps second contract too?

    If so, he may stump up for someone like Hiddink.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,424 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    I be more concerned about grass root football and people within the FAI than getting new top class manager.

    The game is rotten to the core on so many levels here.

    Niall Quinn would not be good manager but he might do good job in this department along with Kevin Moran


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,363 ✭✭✭✭SlickRic


    ex-players (usually from the 90s) seems to be a route many countries have gone down.

    is there any Irish ones who have done their coaching badges bar Keane?


  • Registered Users Posts: 822 ✭✭✭Pudders


    Can't believe no one has mentioned him....

    GARY BREEN!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,335 ✭✭✭smackbunnybaby


    Is O'Brien paying for Trapps second contract too?

    If so, he may stump up for someone like Hiddink.

    tbh I don't know.
    Had just assumed he was.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,815 ✭✭✭Charlie


    Some shocking suggestions here.

    People need to realise that we need someone who can lift the squad, morale is at an all time low. Thats the priority. not whoever is flavour of the month tactically. A motivator in the mould of Kevin Keegan.

    Actually Keegan himself would be a good shout.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    What about Trigger?
    with Barnes?

    What could go wrong?

    Prenton Park says hi! (although they were better than Ray Mathias & Kevin Sheedy)


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,860 ✭✭✭DeanAustin


    Dempsey wrote: »
    One Uefa cup run masks alot of failure in the champions league

    Precisely. And Strachan did arguably a better job than O'Neill at Celtic. Didn't he get them out of the group in the CL, something O'Neill failed to do.

    O'Neill is a mediocre manager with an awful style of football. The fact some people are suggesting he is no longer committed to managing rules him out to me if it's true. All he has is commitment and enthusiasm and if that's gone then he isn't much use.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,333 ✭✭✭jonnyfingers


    Tony Pulis? He'd bring Delap back for the long throws!

    Personally I'd like a manager that has a technical coach's mind, some like Rene Meulensteen. I'd love to see someone like him come in and work with the senior and U-21 teams. I know it's ambitious but if we could get the younger players playing and training well and build it from the bottom up I think it would do us wonders. Not sure that type of long term view would be shared by the FAI though.

    Basically I think we have a decent squad who have been trained by Trap to fear taking chances. They've been told they aren't talented enough to play attractive football so they need to keep it basic. Sadly our early results and Euro qualification probably made them think he was right.

    I'd love someone who could come in and change that mentality and get some belief back into the team.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,346 ✭✭✭✭homerjay2005


    Then you have complete idiots who'd want the Ireland team to fail

    to be honest, this will happens no matter who is in charge.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,285 ✭✭✭Frankie Lee


    Am I completely alone in my Zeman for Ireland campaign?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Eamon Dunphy and John Giles both advocating MON on the radio this morning.

    Depressing isn't it?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,562 ✭✭✭eyescreamcone


    I think if we had Mourinho or Pep in charge we still wouldn't have qualified for WC14.

    Our players are just not up to it at the moment.

    We needed a few breaks in the early Sweden and Austria games (both games could have been won).

    We didn't get them and lost our chance.


    I'd like the next manager to look at what players are available and build a team and playing style which is suitable to our strengths.
    This will NOT have us playing like a Spain or Germany.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,424 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    If Martin O Neill gets the job we deserve all the **** we can get.

    No thank you.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,097 ✭✭✭roanoke


    Am I completely alone in my Zeman for Ireland campaign?

    Hell no, you're not. With him we might get some football like Foggia and Lecce. Also with any luck he doesn't speak English and we can keep Manuela on.

    Probably still won't qualify for anything but at least the games will be exciting!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 591 ✭✭✭Techless


    Dickerty wrote: »
    Interesting. A bit of an enigma - did well at Boro, got himself the England job which he wasn't ready for, but did incredibly at FC Twente. So he obviously has some coaching and motivation skills about him. Maybe.

    Not sure - with our weather, it would cost a fortune in supplying brollies....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,473 ✭✭✭Wacker The Attacker


    I imagine the list of candidates will reflect how desirable the job is. Some people may be disappointed when their "championship manager" list of airy fairy candidates are ruled out one at a time.

    I'm just surprised that some moron hasnt suggested Jose Mourinho yet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,335 ✭✭✭smackbunnybaby


    I imagine the list of candidates will reflect how desirable the job is.

    This is a good point.
    Like any open job position, you can apply if you want.
    The FAI will have their list but if anyone feels they can do a job, I'm sure they will throw in their hat.


  • Site Banned Posts: 26,456 ✭✭✭✭Nuri Sahin


    Trap officially gone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,363 ✭✭✭✭SlickRic


    yup, John Delaney on Newstalk right now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,114 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    GIOVANNI TRAPATTONI AND Marco Tardelli have left their Republic of Ireland posts “by mutual consent”.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,805 ✭✭✭Lennonist


    Martin O'Neill the outstanding candidate for the job. I would be very happy with his appointment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,690 ✭✭✭✭Skylinehead


    Am I completely alone in my Zeman for Ireland campaign?

    I for one completely support Zemenlandia.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,346 ✭✭✭✭homerjay2005


    dont know whats worse, Pat Kenny or the cringy texts that he is reading out.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,846 ✭✭✭Moneymaker


    Am I completely alone in my Zeman for Ireland campaign?

    Lord no. We'd be nothing if not entertaining with him in charge. At least we'd go out there and play some football.

    And he's proven before he can get the best out of lesser teams(Foggio, Leece and Pescara).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,364 ✭✭✭campo


    I think we should look outside the box, my list would include

    Rene meulensteen
    Glen Hoddle
    Carlos queiroz
    Slaven Bilic

    Outsiders
    Greame Souness
    John Aldridge
    Steve McLaren


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 18,115 ✭✭✭✭ShiverinEskimo


    dont know whats worse, Pat Kenny or the cringy texts that he is reading out.

    Listening to Pat Kenny in the first place is the worst of all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,242 ✭✭✭✭briany


    No matter who Ireland gets in, I have an awful feeling that he's not exactly going to be able to turn Ireland around from being a habitual practitioner of the long ball or suddenly have the composure and game to defend slim leads. These won't be traits that will be 'managed' out of the Irish team, I think, but they can at least be de-emphasized.

    The new manager should strive to foster a good relationship with all eligible players, be someone who can command the dressing room, look to form a cohesive unit and make Ireland tactically fluid. The team's become a bit of a one note joke, I think, and not that far above, in terms of reputation, where they were when Stan was getting sacked.

    Roddy Collins talked about, before the Euros, that the kind of football Ireland were playing would lead to catastrophe and turn the nation off to such a degree as to set the progress of the game in Ireland back by a number of years. He was exaggerating a bit to bring his point home but what he's saying is basically correct; we've paid a pretty heavy psychic cost for that Euro qualification. Trap rode a wave of popularity to a new contract and so couldn't be budged even when it became apparent that the team was well and truly found out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,154 ✭✭✭✭Neil3030


    Am I completely alone in my Zeman for Ireland campaign?

    No sir you most certainly are not!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    Zeman for fecking president and all.

    I could actually see his 4-3-3 (which is really just a 4-5-1 with advanced wingers) working well with our players.

    A midfield 3 of Gibson, McCarty and Meyler behind a front 3 of Pilkington and brady supporting one of Long/Keane/Walters/Cox/whoever would be pretty competent.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,282 ✭✭✭BlackWizard


    Bring back Steve Staunton


    :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,081 ✭✭✭peabutler


    If Martin O Neill gets the job before Mick McCarthy i'll just move underground for the duration of his contract.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,952 ✭✭✭Lando Griffin


    In my opinion Chris Hughton should be No. 1 realistic contender for the Ireland job when it vacates.
    As an ex Irish international with over 50 caps to his name and at 54 years of age he would have the passion, communication skills and respect coupled with his agreeable age to not just Manage the senior team but put in place a philosophy to develop the underage groups.
    He has coached the U21s and reserve teams at Spurs before being made Coach and given the caretakers role twice while at the club.
    He was also coach at Newcastle and while caretaker manager got promotion from the championship.
    When dismissed from Newcastle, players and ex-players like Alan Shearer were outraged.
    He then brought Brmingham to 4th in the championship loosing to a Blackpool team who were promoted.
    His first season at Norwich seen them gain mid table respectability.
    He has great respect with the players and his training sessions are disciplined while all the time youth is given a chance, while also giving a player an opportunity when deemed good enough.
    He sets his teams up by judging the opponents ability’s and changes his teams to combat these, if a team is of similar ability to his, he does play positivity to get the result whereas if they are stronger identifies their potential weaknesses and try to exploit them.
    With his knowledge of the players in England coupled with his underage coaching and managerial roles this is why my man that the FAI should do everything in their power to employ Chris Houghtan as Ireland manager.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,805 ✭✭✭Lennonist


    Was listening to a bit of what Delaney was saying. From what I could gather, they will appoint a new manger by the end of next week. It looks like they are going for O'Neill a journo (John Brennan i think it was) said they had already sounded him out on the job through informal contacts.

    I'd be in favour of appointing O'Neill, but they'd want to make sure he's really up for it. If he is, he'll get them punching above their weight and in contention for qualifying for the next Euro's, also if they do get to the Euro's in 2016 he'll send them out with confidence and no fear of whoever they would be facing. That is the key difference - and not the only one - between O'Neill and Trap, O'Neill will instil confidence in the players.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,296 ✭✭✭✭gimmick


    Whoever gets the job should be on a strict contract until the European Championship campaign ends, be that when we are eliminated from qualifying, or from the tournament itself. A new contract can be discussed then and only then.

    I am not saying sack the new guy if we do not make it. But if we are as abject as what we have been during this campaign it should be an immediate cheerio.


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