Who are the candidates for the Ireland job?

titan18

I'll do it. I have extensive Football Manager experience

sReq | uTeK

The one thing I will say on this is that Money talks.

mike65

Roy Keane will be the next manager. I'm already starting to suspect they'll go for him. 16/1 btw

Not O Neill still plays football from the dark ages so no step forward.

Chris Hughton, Mick Mc and Brian McDermott would be the best options to go for.

TheDoc

I think we need to learn from the Trap selection criteria.

Modern football has changed in the last ten years. Even the poorest of quality teams still deploy possession football, in some form. We made Austria and Sweden look brilliant, simply because they kept the ball on the ground.

This is a transition that is completely lost on managers that have not had first hand experience in it.

I think we should go for a manager that has been working actively over the last 8-10 years, and not make an appointment based on the reputation and achievements gained in a different era of football.

ambid

Dempsey wrote: »

One Uefa cup run masks alot of failure in the champions league

Didn't O'Neill get Celtic to the group stages of the Champions League 4 times in 5 years?

That is success for Celtic given their resources - it's certainly not failure.

TheDoc

Also,

Chris Hughton would be mental to leave Norwich,. He has just being backed to improve his squad the way he wanted, for the first time he has a good attacking line with a very VERY competent squad. Why he would abandon a project that is looking on the up, for something that is on the floor, is totally beyond me.

Dont be at yourself

Glen Hoddle is a great shout. Last manager to have England playing decent football.

elefant

From reading Villa and Sunderland fans on here criticising O Neill, his biggest downfalls have been poor spending in the transfer market. This must make him an ideal candidate for international football? Irish, a good motivator, experienced etc.

Or am I barking up the wrong tree here?

ambid

campo wrote: »

I think we should look outside the box, my list would include

Rene meulensteen
Glen Hoddle
Carlos queiroz
Slaven Bilic

Outsiders
Greame Souness
John Aldridge
Steve McLaren

I'd quite like Hoddle. He does seem bonkers but he knows how to organise a football team.

Meulensteen or Mike Phelan could be interesting. The haven't been managers but they are apparently good coaches.

ArmaniJeanss

Lennonist wrote: »

Was listening to a bit of what Delaney was saying. From what I could gather, they will appoint a new manger by the end of next week.

Not sure why they would do this with our next meaningful match not until September 2014.
More likely to appoint someone in May next year and save 8 months wages in the meantime.

TheDoc

ambid wrote: »

Didn't O'Neill get Celtic to the group stages of the Champions League 4 times in 5 years?

That is success for Celtic given their resources - it's certainly not failure.

It's worth looking at the calibre of team he was facing, while Celtic were perhaps low on resources compared to the regular Champo League teams, it was alot higher then some of the trash they beat in qualifying.

Not to dimish his achievement there, or Celtics, but there is a distinct difference here.

I think alot of people are disrespectful to Celtic in general when they say he made Celtic punch above their weight.

They beat minnows in qualification for the Champ League, but faultered hard in the group stages most years, and in a two horse race every year for the title, you would want to be somewhat in the hunt every year...

speedboatchase

With the dilution of the Euros from 16 to 24 teams (a horrenoud decision imo) beginning in the Euro 2016, there's going to be a lot less pressure on the next manager to reach international tournaments. We'll artificially go a bit further than before at least.

Next manager will probably be O'Neill but I'm hoping for Keane - not that I rate him but it would be a fun few years!

elefant

elefant wrote: »

From reading Villa and Sunderland fans on here criticising O Neill, his biggest downfalls have been poor spending in the transfer market. This must make him an ideal candidate for international football? Irish, a good motivator, experienced etc.

Or am I barking up the wrong tree here?

Well if we want caveman football and someone not able to change things on the pitch when its blatantly obvious to those watching the game where things are going wrong then he is the man.

Not what is needed. Transfer market aside struggled after an initial burst at sunderland and didnt seem to be able to change things from the long ball game. Very few ideas and we need someone more forward thinking.

kfallon

Deleted User wrote: »

Not what is needed. Transfer market aside struggled after an initial burst at sunderland and didnt seem to be able to change things from the long ball game. Very few ideas and we need someone more forward thinking.

He didn't have John Robertson at Sunderland, big factor in him not doing so well!

I said on another thread that I only want M O'Neill if he brings JR with him!

TheDoc

elefant wrote: »

From reading Villa and Sunderland fans on here criticising O Neill, his biggest downfalls have been poor spending in the transfer market. This must make him an ideal candidate for international football? Irish, a good motivator, experienced etc.

Or am I barking up the wrong tree here?

Potentially the wrong tree, from my eyes, the only reason he got any sort of recognition and this false "top class manager" ****e, is that he would invest in certain players on his arrival and get very short term gains in terms of standards, results and performance levels.

We don't hear regularly enough, how when he leaves, squads are usually completly littered with deadwood on high wages sucking up resources.

I'd also query his identification of talent and promoting youth players into senior squads. Appears to be hap hazard.

But as you say Sunderland and Villa fans, and Celtic ones, will know best, and would lvoe to get their take

From a perspective of someone not involved with either three, looks a poor popularist appointment based of a media spun fantasy that he is a good manager.

S28382

Id rather put NI manager Michael O Neill in before Glenn Hoddle. :eek:

Id never watch or go to another Ireland game if Hoddle was in charge.

Im not too sure about Martin O Neill.

Mourinho seems like a good option.

rob316

Owen Coyle? Anything but Martin O Neill, he is like the most overrated manager in the game. Hopeless long ball merchant.

I think the FAI should stump up for a manager of the ilk of Trap again though, the Staunton and Kerr attempts were awful.

I'd love to see Mick McCarthy back to be honest. Chris Houghton I would be very happy with also.

Its all pointless anyway as until we start producing better players and not 2nd rate English players all managers are going to fall below the Irish publics expectations. You are kidding yourself if you thought/or think we are better than Sweden or Austria, we don't have one single piece of quality in the squad.

P.S Delaney should walk too

xtal191

No chance Chris Houghton leaves Norwich, he'd be crazy to leave them.

aramush

Heres a wild idea, could we not look for a manager with proven international experience?

Pepe LeFrits

Martin... Keown

rob316

xtal191 wrote: »

No chance Chris Houghton leaves Norwich, he'd be crazy to leave them.

True, and there is no way the FAI will pay the compensation to a Premier League club for there manager either.

For those who said Roy Keane it could only ever happen if Delaney walked too which wont, don't think I'd want him anyway, he's just not the managerial type imo.

I think another experienced international manager is a must. I was a big fan of Trappatoni bar this qualifying campaign so would like to see someone of similar stature come in.

ricero

Is gus hiddink availible ?

roanoke

OT : Just curious (and I don't want to be seen as some raving Grammar National-Socialist) but what's with many people spelling his name Chris "Houghton"?

Once or twice ok, but short of actually doing a count it seems like 50% of the time he's mentioned here people call him "Houghton".

I only ask because (a) His name isn't spelled 'Houghton', (b) further it's not even pronounced 'Houghton' and (c) one of our most famous players ever was called "Houghton" so it's easy to see a difference.

Anyway, I've always been curious about that one.

CSF

McCarthy please.

rob316

ricero wrote: »

Is gus hiddink availible ?

Yep he left Anzhi recently so he is available. Strong talk of him going back Australia though. If there was even a chance of getting him the FAI should move, heaven and earth to get him.

SirDelboy18

Brian McDermott is someone who plays a brand of football that we have craved, and who has been reasonably successful over the past 2/3 years. He definitely wants the job, out of the viable candidates he is probably our best option.

JokerD

What the FAI's John Delaney said about McDermott today: "McCarthy, McDermott, Hughton, Roy Keane - all those names would come into the pot"

From Phil Hay, Yorkshire Evening Post reporter.

inforfun

ricero wrote: »

Is gus hiddink availible ?

He is. Left Anzi a while ago.

Not going to happen because he has made it all to clear he wants to go back to club football. But the FAI should take Van Gaal en leave him to do whatever he wants with Irish football.
Only then you you might end up with a proper youth set up, hell maybe even a league that get some attention it deserves.

I really have no time for the person Van Gaal is but he can change things for the better for Irish football.

At this moment of time it isnt really important who is the manager, it is your players who are mediocre at best.

eyescreamcone

Davy Fitz

5live

Only one man for the job.

Always right in picking the squad.
Always right in picking the team.
Always right in picking the correct substitutions at the correct time.
Always right!

Eamon Dunphy.

Yup.

The Dunph.

And then we wouldn't have to listen to the above bladder when things don't go right for him.

Plus we get the mighty underrated Andy Reid back at the heart of the Irish team and he will lead us to Brazil and the final of the World Cup.

What could possibly go wrong......

briany

No chance of the headhunters being reunited and going on a trek then? Is it all pretty much done and dusted with whatever person they've chose already, I wonder?

JokerD

As a Leeds fan I don't think McDermott would take the job at his point. He seems to love it at Leeds and has a plan to build something.

Insect Overlord

Jimmy's winning matches...

Fr Tod Umptious

We all know that the FAI are on a tight budget, so this new manager is going to come with a 'value for money tag'
But has anyone considered how much Mr O' Neill will be looking for, yes he is available and does not have to be bought out, but I'm sure he will be having a look at the premiership table and wondering if he can land a job there when the first manager gets the chop this season.

who_ru

O' Neill = more hoof ball. Always has been his style.

noodler

I remember McCarhty's replacment being chosen vis interview after candidates applied.

Was Trap headhunted?

I wonder if the FAI will accept applications.

sReq | uTeK

Keane would be a terirble choice as would O'Neill.

Both of them barely turned up at Sunderland and the club was a joke, they spent vast amounts of money and still languished in the drop zone.

We need a young coach, with new ideas who will give youth a chance, we have 1+ years now to develop a team for european qualification and we need someone with a plan to do this, the current squad needs a serious revamping. Even if we use the Euros as a progression and focus on getting to the WC in 5 years thats okay with me, I'd rather lose week in week out progressing as a good footballing nation and not qualifying in the short term so long as we were going to get results long term, ala Belgium.

rob316

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

We all know that the FAI are on a tight budget, so this new manager is going to come with a 'value for money tag'
But has anyone considered how much Mr O' Neill will be looking for, yes he is available and does not have to be bought out, but I'm sure he will be having a look at the premiership table and wondering if he can land a job there when the first manager gets the chop this season.

Doubtful, he just spends and spends on ****e and hopes his motivational style works and when it doesn't he is found seriously wanting. He has zero international experience.

He left Sunderland and Aston Villa in financial ruin (not that has any effect on the Irish job). No to him every day of the week.

aramush

Can we get Jamie Carragher in as manager just to keep Manuela Spinelli as translator?

Lando Griffin

Keane would have to check if Jermain Pennant has an Irish granny before taking the job.

Fr Tod Umptious

rob316 wrote: »

Doubtful, he just spends and spends on ****e and hopes his motivational style works and when it doesn't he is found seriously wanting. He has zero international experience.

He left Sunderland and Aston Villa in financial ruin (not that has any effect on the Irish job). No to him every day of the week.

I am not suggesting that he is the fit by any means, as I said earlier in this thread the myth that he is the kind of guy who gets over achievement from average players has been busted since his recent spending sprees.

But he does seem to be the guy that is favourite, mainly because he is available, and my theory is that he will not come cheap, primarily because he has been a premiership manager, and may be one again, and thus will have pretty high salary demands

secman

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

We all know that the FAI are on a tight budget, so this new manager is going to come with a 'value for money tag'
But has anyone considered how much Mr O' Neill will be looking for, yes he is available and does not have to be bought out, but I'm sure he will be having a look at the premiership table and wondering if he can land a job there when the first manager gets the chop this season.

THE TIGHT BUDGET DOES NOT APPEAR TO IMPEDE ON JOHN DELANEY'S SALARY €360,000 PER ANNUM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fr Tod Umptious

secman wrote: »

THE TIGHT BUDGET DOES NOT APPEAR TO IMPEDE ON JOHN DELANEY'S SALARY €360,000 PER ANNUM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why are you shouting ?

Even if he took a 50% pay cut they would still be on a tight budget

That is the reality

SEPT 23 1989

Roberto Mancini

tomred1

Robbie Keane

5live

Lando Griffin wrote: »

Keane would have to check if Jermain Pennant has an Irish granny before taking the job.

Apparently the papers proving he qualifies for an Irish passport are to be found in the car Pennant parked and forgot about for 2 years in Spain...:pac:

HalloweenJack

I just hope it's not Roy Keane. That's a disaster waiting to happen and it would probably set the whole team back further.

If he can get himself a job and rebuild his reputation, I'd be willing to give him a chance but he shouldn't be seen as an option right now.

leonidas83

Would like to see Rene Mulesteen or Paul Clement given a shot.

Rene Mulesteen out of work currently after his little spell at Anzhi.

Paul Clement, currently assistant manager to Ancelotti at Madrid, I dont think they would stand in his way if he was offered the job.

Also Clement has previous experience with our underage setup

JoeA3

leonidas83 wrote: »

Also Clement has previous experience with our underage setup

I heard Stephen Hunt interviewed on Newstalk at lunch and he came across much better than I expected. Some semi intelligent observations from him and when asked who he thought would be a good candidate, he also suggested Clement and not the typical lazy answer (O'Neill or the likes...)