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Rory McIlroy - 4 Time Major Winner

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    #3482
    Dolph Starbeam
    Registered Users Posts: 4,536 ✭✭✭Dolph Starbeam


    whatawaster wrote: »
    JP will have no problem getting another good bag. Not many caddies have 4 majors, a fedex cup and multiple WGC's.

    McIlroy is also responsible for JP being a multi-millionaire.

    I really don't think Rory has to feel bad about anything.

    I just hope it ended amicably and for professional reasons.

    Agree with this, JP had a good reputation in the game in Ireland before Rory and he will have a choice of players to choose from, if thats what he wants to do.

    For Rory to do it now is very odd, why so sudden. Hopefully it was an amicable split.


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    #3483
    FixdePitchmark
    Registered Users Posts: 20,897 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    SteM wrote: »
    Surely such a decorated caddie will be offered other jobs, if he is and declines then he's ending his own career.

    If I get sacked tomorrow but another company offers me a job and I decline then I have retired and ended my career, not the company that sacked me.

    All true, BUT.

    When you are at the top of the game - can you really see a man with any sort of pride in his craft taking on a lad at say number 122 in the world. Or a pro starting out. It is not like soccer - most top bags are gone.

    Will be interesting to see how it pans out. But perception is everything - if JP doesn't work again - it will be very negative for Rory. Even is the public perception is wrong _ Rory operates in the area.


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    #3484
    A Shaved Duck?
    Registered Users Posts: 1,689 ✭✭✭A Shaved Duck?


    Dolph Starbeam wrote: »
    Agree with this, JP had a good reputation in the game in Ireland before Rory and he will have a choice of players to choose from, if thats what he wants to do.

    For Rory to do it now is very odd, why so sudden. Hopefully it was an amicable split.

    Why is it odd for a caddie and a pro to stop working together, it happens all the time.

    JP is a very wealthy man off the back off rory mcilroy and its all a bit mad on this forum where mcilroy is concerned..he cant do anything without being accused of being immature etc.


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    #3485
    mickmackey1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,288 ✭✭✭mickmackey1


    ligerdub wrote: »
    Few people stick with the same caddie for 10 years +.
    Maybe because they don't win 4 majors and reach No 1.

    At the end of the day nothing Rory says or does can seriously surprise us at this stage. Kinda lost interest in him to be fair.


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    #3486
    FixdePitchmark
    Registered Users Posts: 20,897 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    A Shaved Duck? wrote: »
    Why is it odd for a caddie and a pro to stop working together, it happens all the time.

    JP is a very wealthy man off the back off rory mcilroy and its all a bit mad on this forum where mcilroy is concerned..he cant do anything without being accused of being immature etc.


    Because maybe he is.


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    #3487
    luvthegame
    Closed Accounts Posts: 222 ✭✭luvthegame


    A Shaved Duck? wrote: »
    and its all a bit mad on this forum where mcilroy is concerned..he cant do anything without being accused of being immature etc.

    You are right BUT there are some reasonable posts in there as well. Its 2 weeks before the PGA on a course he loves. What can a new caddie bring to table in that time? JP knows his game inside out on that course.


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    #3488
    AdamD
    Registered Users Posts: 12,630 ✭✭✭✭AdamD


    People have been calling for him to sack JP for years, now that he does it everyone loses their heads about it..


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    #3489
    A Shaved Duck?
    Registered Users Posts: 1,689 ✭✭✭A Shaved Duck?


    FixdePitchmark wrote: »
    Because maybe he is.

    So ending a partnership with his caddy as he felt he needed a change.. has never said anything negative about JP etc..

    Defintley the actions of an immature person :rolleyes:


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    #3490
    FixdePitchmark
    Registered Users Posts: 20,897 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    AdamD wrote: »
    People have been calling for him to sack JP for years, now that he does it everyone loses their heads about it..

    No agree with this , I think the change is right - just timing poor.

    It is a big decision - why would you do it at the wrong time - makes no sense , unless it was emotional or impulsive.

    It will all be revealed how it happened.


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    #3491
    A Shaved Duck?
    Registered Users Posts: 1,689 ✭✭✭A Shaved Duck?


    luvthegame wrote: »
    You are right BUT there are some reasonable posts in there as well. Its 2 weeks before the PGA on a course he loves. What can a new caddie bring to table in that time? JP knows his game inside out on that course.

    IF he changed at the start of the year there would be some reason why thats the wrong time also..


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    #3492
    FixdePitchmark
    Registered Users Posts: 20,897 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    A Shaved Duck? wrote: »
    IF he changed at the start of the year there would be some reason why thats the wrong time also..

    There wouldn't .


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    #3493
    A Shaved Duck?
    Registered Users Posts: 1,689 ✭✭✭A Shaved Duck?


    FixdePitchmark wrote: »
    There wouldn't .

    Im sure you would find fault with it somehow.


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    #3494
    luvthegame
    Closed Accounts Posts: 222 ✭✭luvthegame


    AdamD wrote: »
    People have been calling for him to sack JP for years, now that he does it everyone loses their heads about it..

    Go through the posts instead of generalising. You'll find reasonable balanced arguments in there also, on both sides.


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    #3495
    ligerdub
    Registered Users Posts: 2,584 ✭✭✭ligerdub


    mickmackey1 wrote: »
    Maybe because they don't win 4 majors and reach No 1.

    At the end of the day nothing Rory says or does can seriously surprise us at this stage. Kinda lost interest in him to be fair.

    The primary factor in that was McIlroy being such a good player. I'm sure JP was a good caddie and all but McIlroy is entitled to have who he wants on his bag.

    Tiger ditched Fluff and Butch Harmon after his breakthrough, and most caddies end up working for several different players. How many bags has Colin Byrne been through at this stage?


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    #3496
    Halfprice
    Registered Users Posts: 265 ✭✭Halfprice


    JP will move on just like Bones will. Could be JP and Phill and Bones and Rory. Now that would be a good group in 1st 2 rounds of last Major :). Maybe Rory thinks he needs someone who is more stronger on the bag and thinks why didnt JP ever have a go at me before and thats what i need. Somebody who will give me a kick when i need it and not jus the odd time. For all we know JP might of said he wants a break..


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    #3497
    ForeRight
    Registered Users Posts: 3,695 ✭✭✭ForeRight


    Last 5 years

    Rory needs to change his caddy

    Rory changes caddy

    Rory is immature and not a nice person




    Gotta love this place


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    #3498
    sky88
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    the only thing i find strange is the timing and that he was so full of praise so unless rory was actually annoyed at him strange that its just before the PGA.

    but he may just need a change and with one of the best caddys ever in bones available he might see it as a chance to do it. Although i dont see him and bones working to well as rory never seems to be in too much chat with JP.


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    #3499
    ForeRight
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    sky88 wrote: »
    the only thing i find strange is the timing and that he was so full of praise so unless rory was actually annoyed at him strange that its just before the PGA.

    but he may just need a change and with one of the best caddys ever in bones available he might see it as a chance to do it. Although i dont see him and bones working to well as rory never seems to be in too much chat with JP.


    Maybe Rory has come to the conclusion that he does need lots of chat from a caddy after seeing how JP(in Rory's opinion) turned his first day around last week.
    Maybe he has come to the realisation that if he wants to be top dog again he needs input but doesn't see jp as the man to do that long term.


    Who knows really


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    #3500
    red ears
    Closed Accounts Posts: 945 ✭✭✭red ears


    A Shaved Duck? wrote: »
    Why is it odd for a caddie and a pro to stop working together, it happens all the time.

    JP is a very wealthy man off the back off rory mcilroy and its all a bit mad on this forum where mcilroy is concerned..he cant do anything without being accused of being immature etc.

    I agree, i see no issue with Rory deciding he would like to try someone new. That's life and business. He doesn't really owe JP a long career, JP did well out of the partnership. I'm sure he will get another decent bag.

    I would say the field of the PGA Championship should watch out. Rory tends to do quite well after a split.


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    #3501
    wardides
    Registered Users Posts: 768 ✭✭✭wardides


    Halfprice wrote: »
    JP will move on just like Bones will. Could be JP and Phill and Bones and Rory. Now that would be a good group in 1st 2 rounds of last Major :). Maybe Rory thinks he needs someone who is more stronger on the bag and thinks why didnt JP ever have a go at me before and thats what i need. Somebody who will give me a kick when i need it and not jus the odd time. For all we know JP might of said he wants a break..

    As expected I'm seeing lots of talk about Harry Diamond taking over. I agree with your part in Bold, Rory needs someone to be strong and dial him in, and his best mate Harry could be the worst thing he could do.


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    #3502
    Loire
    Registered Users Posts: 2,034 ✭✭✭Loire


    sky88 wrote: »
    the only thing i find strange is the timing and that he was so full of praise so unless rory was actually annoyed at him strange that its just before the PGA.

    Which leads me to think that the new caddie has been lined up on the QT. I wonder will it be Steve Williams? Surely someone who has experience of winning majors in any case..


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    #3503
    Waccamacca3
    Registered Users Posts: 173 ✭✭Waccamacca3


    Loire wrote: »
    Which leads me to think that the new caddie has been lined up on the QT. I wonder will it be Steve Williams? Surely someone who has experience of winning majors in any case..

    Can't see them two working together Steve is a big personality would want to be in every picture with Rory after a win. Boast that he (Steve) has won a major when it's the player


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    #3504
    Loire
    Registered Users Posts: 2,034 ✭✭✭Loire


    Waccamacca3 wrote: »
    Can't see them two working together Steve is a big personality would want to be in every picture with Rory after a win.

    Might suit Rory to have someone else in the limelight...


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    #3505
    benny79
    Registered Users Posts: 3,136 ✭✭✭benny79


    Does it not strike anyone that all the press releases say Rory fired his caddy JP and not that they parted ways like Bones and Phil! Plus the fact its been leaked now he hasn't released a statement by social media or other venues.


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    #3506
    ligerdub
    Registered Users Posts: 2,584 ✭✭✭ligerdub


    Loire wrote: »
    Which leads me to think that the new caddie has been lined up on the QT. I wonder will it be Steve Williams? Surely someone who has experience of winning majors in any case..

    Williams is retired. He's only on Scott's bag for the majors and I'm not sure he even does that anymore.


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    #3507
    neddynasty
    Registered Users Posts: 358 ✭✭neddynasty


    Surely one of the contributors/experts on this forum will be on Rory's bag for the rest of the year. There's no shortage of advice as to what he's doing wrong and where he can improve.


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    #3508
    luvthegame
    Closed Accounts Posts: 222 ✭✭luvthegame


    Brilliant post! What would you like us to talk about? His new range of nike clothing?


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    #3509
    FixdePitchmark
    Registered Users Posts: 20,897 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    neddynasty wrote: »
    Surely one of the contributors/experts on this forum will be on Rory's bag for the rest of the year. There's no shortage of advice as to what he's doing wrong and where he can improve.


    Thanks for that.

    Golf forum here - like there are actualy people who know golf - know pros. And even if they don't, so what.

    Like saying people in Cork shouldn't whinge about GAA - when clearly they are good at it.


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    #3510
    Dbu
    Registered Users Posts: 1,085 ✭✭✭Dbu


    Joe LaCava could be another option,
    Not doing a lot of work for Tiger at the moment
    Either him or Niall Horan :-)


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    #3511
    [Deleted User]
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    Harry Diamond to be on the bag this week in Firestone


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