Rory McIlroy - 4 Time Major Winner

backspin.

HighLine wrote: »

This isn't awkward at all

https://twitter.com/PGATOUR/status/903665145963876353

Who is that guy singing. He has a good voice but he should know Rory likes to stay as neutral as possible.

Captain_Crash

mickmackey1 wrote: »

So it wasn't JP's fault after all, surprise surprise.

There has never been a question whether it was or wasn't JP's fault but fact is he needed a change and felt JP was that change.... doesn't mean he was stifling him, means he felt a new route would provide better results. Personally I think his heads not in it anymore and I wouldn't be surprised to learn he's thrown a cut or two once it's clear he won't be in contention.... why would he want to trawl around whatever generic PGA Americaville course he's on for a lost cause when he can head home (Jupiter) for a couple of days and relax

First Up

Captain_Crash wrote:

Personally I think his heads not in it anymore and I wouldn't be surprised to learn he's thrown a cut or two once it's clear he won't be in contention.... why would he want to trawl around whatever generic PGA Americaville course he's on for a lost cause when he can head home (Jupiter) for a couple of days and relax

That's fine if he is willing to give Nike back their money.

Captain_Crash

First Up wrote: »

That's fine if he is willing to give Nike back their money.

I'm not suggesting he's missed a put on purpose, I'm suggesting that once it's clear he won't be finishing in the top 10 and competing that the amount of effort he puts in is minimal

backspin.

Handbrake on.. settle for 0.1 back

A Shaved Duck?

First Up wrote: »

That's fine if he is willing to give Nike back their money.

Huh?...

BigChap1759

Rory is up and down like a yoyo. I've no doubt after not being bothered for a while(and playing averagely) he'll get fed up with not being bothered and will decide that he will rededicate himself to practise and playing golf - probably get back to no1, win 2/3 majors then decide he wants more balance in his life, practise less, win less...........rinse and repeat

First Up

A Shaved Duck? wrote:

Huh?...

They don't pay him to sit at home out of the limelight.

Captain_Crash

They pay him for brand endorsement, and Rory not playing well gets just as much headlines, if not more, than when he's competing for top 10's

davo10

Captain_Crash wrote: »

They pay him for brand endorsement, and Rory not playing well gets just as much headlines, if not more, than when he's competing for top 10's

Interesting, I would have assumed that a sports brand, particularly an American one, would want to be associated with accomplishment and success. Missed cuts are the opposite, they represent failure. While I agree any publicity is good publicity for some brands, I'm not so sure that publicity associated with failure cuts it with Nike (unless of course you are Tiger Woods and even that must surely be reaching the end).

First Up

Captain_Crash wrote:

They pay him for brand endorsement, and Rory not playing well gets just as much headlines, if not more, than when he's competing for top 10's

There's more than just brand endorsement involved. Corporate schmoozing is a big part of it and you can't do much of that from your sofa.

Keano

First Up wrote: »

There's more than just brand endorsement involved. Corporate schmoozing is a big part of it and you can't do much of that from your sofa.

You can do that when you are missing cuts! Plenty of time for golf with Nike execs!

Captain_Crash

Of course they'd prefer to see him winning majors, there is no question of that... but they also don't expect him to win everything in front of him... there is also likely performance related clauses in his deal regarding MC's and wins... so I doubt Nike are too concerned with their investment at the moment and are condiment he'all find his touch.

Someone mentioned earlier in the thread that he'll soon get bored of not winning and flick a switch and go win a few more majors, I believe he is one of very few golfers or even sports people who has the raw talent to be able to do that... just decide to win!

davo10

Pretty much sums it up.

http://m.independent.ie/sport/golf/mcginley-mcilroy-no-longer-has-edge-on-his-rivals-36114790.html

First Up

Keano wrote:

You can do that when you are missing cuts! Plenty of time for golf with Nike execs!

Missing cuts is one thing. Staying at home something else entirely.

Dirty Dingus McGee

Captain_Crash wrote: »

Of course they'd prefer to see him winning majors, there is no question of that... but they also don't expect him to win everything in front of him... there is also likely performance related clauses in his deal regarding MC's and wins... so I doubt Nike are too concerned with their investment at the moment and are condiment he'all find his touch.

Someone mentioned earlier in the thread that he'll soon get bored of not winning and flick a switch and go win a few more majors, I believe he is one of very few golfers or even sports people who has the raw talent to be able to do that... just decide to win!

If not winning was so boring then why hasn't he turned on the switch and started to win, it's been 3 years without a major win he should be well bored by now.

blackcard

Rory starts off with a double bogey 6 after taking his second shot from the fairway 107 yards from the hole. Has to be serious concerns about his wedge play. You would have imagined he would be prioritizing practicing his wedge play. If his form continues like this year, he would drop out of the top 50 world rankings

HighLine

blackcard wrote: »

Rory starts off with a double bogey 6 after taking his second shot from the fairway 107 yards from the hole. Has to be serious concerns about his wedge play. You would have imagined he would be prioritizing practicing his wedge play. If his form continues like this year, he would drop out of the top 50 world rankings

The year is over for him. Playing in the Dunhill next month and then that's it. Probably a good thing.

blackcard

blackcard wrote: »

Rory starts off with a double bogey 6 after taking his second shot from the fairway 107 yards from the hole. Has to be serious concerns about his wedge play. You would have imagined he would be prioritizing practicing his wedge play. If his form continues like this year, he would drop out of the top 50 world rankings

Rory then produces a superb wedge for a birdie at 3. Dustin Johnson last at 3 over

davo10

blackcard wrote: »

Rory starts off with a double bogey 6 after taking his second shot from the fairway 107 yards from the hole. Has to be serious concerns about his wedge play. You would have imagined he would be prioritizing practicing his wedge play. If his form continues like this year, he would drop out of the top 50 world rankings

Jack Nicklaus said it, missing a green from a hundred yards is like missing your mouth with a fork. Earlier in this thread I got roasted for posting about a newspaper article that said at times he plays like a journey man, I wonder how that holds up now.

davo10

blackcard wrote: »

Rory then produces a superb wedge for a birdie at 3. Dustin Johnson last at 3 over

Awful and brilliant in the space of two holes, consistency is the key to success.

tommypepper

While he explained that playing the last three events hasn’t made any further impact on his existing injury, he also hinted that the decision to tackle the playoffs was not entirely his.

“Some decisions aren’t completely up to the individual,” McIlroy said. “There was outside expectation from elsewhere. I played these events for two reasons: thinking that I still had a chance, but for trying to fulfill obligations elsewhere. So there was two parts of it.

Money still at the forefront of a guys minds when he has 4 majors and more money right now than he could spend in two lifetimes??

Same motivation cost him any chance of Masters '17, playing Callaway off TM for more money.

JimmyMcGill

tommypepper wrote: »

While he explained that playing the last three events hasn’t made any further impact on his existing injury, he also hinted that the decision to tackle the playoffs was not entirely his.

“Some decisions aren’t completely up to the individual,” McIlroy said. “There was outside expectation from elsewhere. I played these events for two reasons: thinking that I still had a chance, but for trying to fulfill obligations elsewhere. So there was two parts of it.

Money still at the forefront of a guys minds when he has 4 majors and more money right now than he could spend in two lifetimes??

Same motivation cost him any chance of Masters '17, playing Callaway off TM for more money.

He only has to make another $800,000,000 to become a billionaire. Which would you rather, that amount of money or another 10 majors? I'd prefer more Majors but Rory I'm imagining doesn't.

First Up

tommypepper wrote:

Money still at the forefront of a guys minds when he has 4 majors and more money right now than he could spend in two lifetimes??

Its not the prize money. He has contractual obligations to sponsors.

tommypepper

First Up wrote: »

Its not the prize money. He has contractual obligations to sponsors.

That was my point!!!!!!!!!

No way he was going chance getting a contract penalty.

Business first, golf second. I'm sure hes convinced himself its not the case.

His TM tagline was "because my future is my hands" or some other crap like that.

Emmm no its in the hands of your sponsors by the looks of it.

First Up

tommypepper wrote:

That was my point!!!!!!!!!

I know. It was another poster who mentioned his career winnings.

ligerdub

tommypepper wrote: »

That was my point!!!!!!!!!

No way he was going chance getting a contract penalty.

Business first, golf second. I'm sure hes convinced himself its not the case.

His TM tagline was "because my future is my hands" or some other crap like that.

Emmm no its in the hands of your sponsors by the looks of it.

You'd be mad to be in his position and not engage in signing up to an apparel and/or club sponsorship. The amount of money involved is staggering, even compared to a successful career in terms of prize money.

The sacrifice that needs to be made is negligible compared to the upside. Not only that there are associated benefits in terms of the assistance and preparation that goes into tournaments that they play. It reduces the onus on the pro/his team in certain aspects of competing. For example there are sponsor trucks at all the events. Titleist/Taylor Made etc know the exact spec of all the players on their radar. I'm sure it's possible they could get this without sponsorship, but it's a hell of a lot easier otherwise.

Not only does it benefit the player financially in terms of the terms of the contract, the exposure from advertising also adds legitimacy to the value of the player in other sponsorship or appearance fees.

It isn't a case of a choice between winning ten majors and $100 million. Players are more than capable of maximising their income opportunities without having any detrimental effect on their preparation. In fact it is in the sponsors interest to ensure that the player is MORE prepared for tournaments. Nobody wants to shell out $200m on somebody who gets worse after he signs up. The best example of this is Tiger Woods, easier the most successful golfer of the last 30 years. He won more tournaments and had more sponsorship money than anyone else by a long way.

These excuses only become vocalised when things start taking a turn for the worse.

ronnie3585

Another dismal finish for Rory - https://www.irishgolfer.ie/single-post/2017/09/17/McIlroy-to-miss-Tour-Championship-after-winless-season

His head didn't seem in it all season.

davo10

ronnie3585 wrote: »

Another dismal finish for Rory - https://www.irishgolfer.ie/single-post/2017/09/17/McIlroy-to-miss-Tour-Championship-after-winless-season

His head didn't seem in it all season.

He has a great future behind him.

Minderbinder

Down to 8th in the latest world rankings. Fair chance he'll be 10th this time next week.