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Rory McIlroy - 4 Time Major Winner
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Lowry makes the cut on the number, has a good weekend and the general consensus is that he’s shown great mental strength to bounce back from adversity to make the top 10 and should be very proud. McIlroy does the exact same...”mentally weak”, “also ran” “can only do it when the pressure is off”, “plays like an amateur”, “plays like a Kuchar” (whatever the fook that means).
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Lowry makes the cut on the number, has a good weekend and the general consensus is that he’s shown great mental strength to bounce back from adversity to make the top 10 and should be very proud. McIlroy does the exact same...”mentally weak”, “also ran” “can only do it when the pressure is off”, “plays like an amateur”, “plays like a Kuchar” (whatever the fook that means).
This place is funny
I suspect most would acknowledge that Lowry and Mcilroy are players of different callibre and differing expectations. Some golfers over achieve to place 10th in a major, other players might consider it an underachievement given their talent.0 -
Lowry makes the cut on the number, has a good weekend and the general consensus is that he’s shown great mental strength to bounce back from adversity to make the top 10 and should be very proud. McIlroy does the exact same...”mentally weak”, “also ran” “can only do it when the pressure is off”, “plays like an amateur”, “plays like a Kuchar” (whatever the fook that means).
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Not really, even Rory's detractors admit he's the most talented on his day or when it suits.Lowrys a journeyman in comparison so there is a difference.0 -
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I disagree. On his day, he is as good as a number of others. We have seen Koepha on his day, we've seen Stenson and Phil on their day, Molinari on his day. On their day, these lads are all unbelievable.Pissartist wrote: »Not really, even Rory's detractors admit he's the most talented on his day or when it suits.Lowrys a journeyman in comparison so there is a difference.
Do you think Rory and Shane have the same golfing ability?Lowry makes the cut on the number, has a good weekend and the general consensus is that he’s shown great mental strength to bounce back from adversity to make the top 10 and should be very proud. McIlroy does the exact same...”mentally weak”, “also ran” “can only do it when the pressure is off”, “plays like an amateur”, “plays like a Kuchar” (whatever the fook that means).
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He plays like a Kuchar, consistently top 10's, never really features bar the odd streaky week. Get it now?You love a good straw-man, consistent I'll give you that, obviously I didn't say that.
No I'm open to the idea of issues around his mental faculty playing a role, similarly I'm open to physical elements too.
The problem with you and others saying ah he has "mental issues" is that it essentially offers nothing but noise, it's not a critique whatsoever while being generally vague and meaningless. Unfortunately that type of utterance has an audience though. Perhaps if you broke it down it might make some sense.
His mental issues have been expounded multiple times on here already, but you dismiss them time and time again.
Golf is Physical and Mental. Clearly he has the physical ability ergo the problem is on the mental side. IF you disagree with that then either you dont like logic, or you think Rory McIlroy doesnt have the physical talent to play golf. I'll leave it up to you to let us know which.
He cant play his way out of a bad round, when it starts to go wrong, or even just doesnt start hot, he has a poor round. It used to be a 74, now its a 71 or 72, but its still a weakness. He doesnt like or cant accept playing a mediocre round of golf to keep himself in it, its all or nothing.
When the pressure is off (miles outside the cutline or out of contention on a Sunday) he puts in a good round and gets himself a top ten, but he is not contending for majors with any degree of regularity these days.
His wedge play is generally terrible, which putts great pressure on his putting, which can also be suspect.0 -
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I disagree. On his day, he is as good as a number of others. We have seen Koepha on his day, we've seen Stenson and Phil on their day, Molinari on his day. On their day, these lads are all unbelievable.
Do you think Rory and Shane have the same golfing ability?
He plays like a Kuchar, consistently top 10's, never really features bar the odd streaky week. Get it now?
His mental issues have been expounded multiple times on here already, but you dismiss them time and time again.
Golf is Physical and Mental. Clearly he has the physical ability ergo the problem is on the mental side. IF you disagree with that then either you dont like logic, or you think Rory McIlroy doesnt have the physical talent to play golf. I'll leave it up to you to let us know which.
He cant play his way out of a bad round, when it starts to go wrong, or even just doesnt start hot, he has a poor round. It used to be a 74, now its a 71 or 72, but its still a weakness. He doesnt like or cant accept playing a mediocre round of golf to keep himself in it, its all or nothing.
When the pressure is off (miles outside the cutline or out of contention on a Sunday) he puts in a good round and gets himself a top ten, but he is not contending for majors with any degree of regularity these days.
His wedge play is generally terrible, which putts great pressure on his putting, which can also be suspect.
That must be a joke? You honestly think this passes as a deductive argument of logic?Indeed, but its not my leap.
It appears we are not allowed to say he has mental issues, so if its not mental, other than physical, whats left?
Ergo, its mental.
Wow if that what you think this passes as deductive logic then I'm at a complete loss. All your assertions are complete ill-supported conjecture.
You somehow think criticising the use of an incredibly vague term of no meaning in "mental issues" therefore means I think McIlroy not winning is due to "physical issues". We've clarified that's a reach at best and complete drivel at worst.
Even though I go on to clarify how your assertion that I think it's "physical" is wrong by explicitly stating that I'm open to the idea of mental frailty but I'd simply like some type of explanation of what the specific indicators are that make you believe that. You believe they've been expounded, please show me because I haven't seen them.
You still go ahead and make one of the poorest attempts I've seen at coming to a logical deductive conclusion, congrats on reaching a new level there, that can't have been easy.0 -
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Indeed, but its not my leap.
It appears we are not allowed to say he has mental issues, so if its not mental, other than physical, whats left?
Ergo, its mental.
Or it could be that golf is hard and any player can have a bad week for no specific reason. Or any player can have a week where he plays well and somebody else simply plays better.
About these mental issues - I know it was talked about a lot in his early career, and yes there was the toothache
and throwing the club into Donald's lake etc., but genuinely in recent years I can't think of too many times (if any) where I'd say they came to the fore. I wonder are they mostly imagined by people or is it just a narrative that has grown legs somehow ?
People keep saying he's not a grinder, he's not this or he can't do that - I really wonder if that's (and I'm surmising here) because he doesn't look like your average Joe grinder, ie he's not looking at a putt from 25 angles, not endlessly debating clubs and yardages before taking the shot, not doing what a lesser talent might consider to be "grinding". I dunno, I think there's a lot of double standards when it comes to judging Rory. I mean, for example, Matt Wallace comes across as a stroppy d1ck and Sky laud him and talk about how he's so passionate. If Rory was like that you'd think he'd be labelled immature, yet when he shows some calm and grinds out a top 10 (albeit a lucky one), people are saying he isn't mentally strong, or gives up bla, bla.0
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