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Rory McIlroy - 4 Time Major Winner

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  • Registered Users Posts: 20,888 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    Is poor enough that Rory couldn't change strategy on last .

    But meaninglessness in over all scale.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,926 ✭✭✭✭Seve OB


    Is poor enough that Rory couldn't change strategy on last .

    But meaninglessness in over all scale.

    I don't think he needed to change strategy. The guy hits the driver better than anyone else ever has so going with a 3 wood off the tee could easily be considered a more risky option for him :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,888 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    Seve OB wrote: »
    Is poor enough that Rory couldn't change strategy on last .

    But meaninglessness in over all scale.

    I don't think he needed to change strategy. The guy hits the driver better than anyone else ever has so going with a 3 wood off the tee could easily be considered a more risky option for him :D

    So is that what we are saying from now on .

    Rory has no plan b .

    No club from 240 to 320 at all.

    Yes . His approach will work 80 % of the time .

    But very 1 dimensional.

    He should have won that play off .

    Means nothing. But we can't fool ourselves either.


  • Registered Users Posts: 723 ✭✭✭Hoof Hearted2


    So is that what we are saying from now on .

    Rory has no plan b .

    No club from 240 to 320 at all.

    Yes . His approach will work 80 % of the time .

    But very 1 dimensional.

    He should have won that play off .

    Means nothing. But we can't fool ourselves either.

    You've just described Storm and players like him, they only have one gear and are unable to adjust or chose not to because they have conditioned themselves over a lifetime of playing conservatively.
    On the other hand Rory has all the dimensions and all the gears and chooses to play in top gear, hence why he has been so successful.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,687 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Rory having an mri on his back in Dubai


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,737 ✭✭✭irelandrover


    So is that what we are saying from now on .

    Rory has no plan b .

    No club from 240 to 320 at all.

    Yes . His approach will work 80 % of the time .

    But very 1 dimensional.

    He should have won that play off .

    Means nothing. But we can't fool ourselves either.

    He had to go for it. The only way anyone was winning teh playoff was if Rory didnt par it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,378 ✭✭✭HighLine


    Part 2 of the Kimmage interview. A really good interview. Interesting to note he will approach the Masters differently this year.

    http://www.independent.ie/sport/golf/paul-kimmage-meets-rory-mcilroy-part-two-ryder-cup-battles-irish-open-win-and-his-longing-for-a-green-jacket-35368195.html


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,584 ✭✭✭ligerdub


    He played the hole the way he felt was the most likely for him to win, that meant driver. With driver he takes the bunker out of play, if he takes the 3 wood then he brings the bunker into play and has a longer shot into the green, it's a no-brainer. I don't understand the logic that because he played the hole in par 4 times that he suddenly has to shift strategy, it wasn't a bad play at all. How many times to players hit driver on standard length par 4's, it must be at least 80%-95%?

    If anything I felt Storm had to decide to use the big dog to push the issue. He won fair and square though. If you play that playoff hole a thousand times Rory beats Storm more than Storm beats McIlroy, probably fairly comfortably, but that's play-offs for you. They'd both done the hard yards to get into that position.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 945 ✭✭✭red ears


    Play offs don't seem to be Rory's thing. He has lost 4 of his last 5 playoffs.


  • Registered Users Posts: 528 ✭✭✭ridonkulous


    HighLine wrote: »
    Part 2 of the Kimmage interview. A really good interview. Interesting to note he will approach the Masters differently this year.

    http://www.independent.ie/sport/golf/paul-kimmage-meets-rory-mcilroy-part-two-ryder-cup-battles-irish-open-win-and-his-longing-for-a-green-jacket-35368195.html

    "Ying and yang".... christ almighty


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  • Registered Users Posts: 20,888 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    ligerdub wrote: »
    He played the hole the way he felt was the most likely for him to win, that meant driver. With driver he takes the bunker out of play, if he takes the 3 wood then he brings the bunker into play and has a longer shot into the green, it's a no-brainer. I don't understand the logic that because he played the hole in par 4 times that he suddenly has to shift strategy, it wasn't a bad play at all. How many times to players hit driver on standard length par 4's, it must be at least 80%-95%?

    If anything I felt Storm had to decide to use the big dog to push the issue. He won fair and square though. If you play that playoff hole a thousand times Rory beats Storm more than Storm beats McIlroy, probably fairly comfortably, but that's play-offs for you. They'd both done the hard yards to get into that position.

    your saying it is a no brainer, but the guy who won hit short of the bunker.

    He was 3 over playing the hole 7 times - that is brainless.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,519 ✭✭✭CMOTDibbler


    your saying it is a no brainer, but the guy who won hit short of the bunker.

    He was 3 over playing the hole 7 times - that is brainless.
    Storm couldn't get his second shot onto the top tier of the green. McIlroy had a better chance of doing that, but it required driver off the tee.

    It's the second hardest hole on the course and the odds were against him getting a birdie unless he took the risk. It didn't work out, but it's not McIlroy's way to play risk free golf.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,584 ✭✭✭ligerdub


    your saying it is a no brainer, but the guy who won hit short of the bunker.

    He was 3 over playing the hole 7 times - that is brainless.


    On a very tough hole. I dare say in the entire field a majority were over par for it, especially so on the final day.

    Saying so and so won and he chose a different strategy, therefore it's the one everyone should have gone with just doesn't stand up to scrutiny. McIlroy had the better chances on 3 of the 4 times they played it. Storm was hitting long irons in. McIlroy just hit bad shots, it happens.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,695 ✭✭✭ForeRight


    Stheno wrote: »
    Rory having an mri on his back in Dubai



    Brace yourselves

    The Rory shouldn't be lifting weights brigade are due any moment now


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,888 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    your saying it is a no brainer, but the guy who won hit short of the bunker.

    He was 3 over playing the hole 7 times - that is brainless.
    Storm couldn't get his second shot onto the top tier of the green. McIlroy had a better chance of doing that, but it required driver off the tee.

    It's the second hardest hole on the course and the odds were against him getting a birdie unless he took the risk. It didn't work out, but it's not McIlroy's way to play risk free golf.

    Yes that is brilliant.

    But risk free is never free.

    You look at the risk, you input back into the algorithm.

    3 over on a par 4 may be risk free

    But it is also idiotic and cos him the event.

    Risk free is heroic . But feedback when available is science.

    Caddy or Rory to blame.

    I like Rory . Bad record in play offs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 222 ✭✭luvthegame


    - sadly JP is a bag carrying mute.

    Maybe you are getting too annoyed to be able to see this from all angles. It is possible you are wrong and McIlroy and JP are right.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,511 ✭✭✭spacecoyote


    I really don't feel like it was his course management that hurt him in general, in terms of options off the tee. To me what looked like the difference was that whenever Storm was within about 120 yards he was giving himself a good look at a birdie in general, whereas Rory wasn't. His long game looked great on the whole over the last couple of days, but his approach game just didn't match up to his long game. He putted fairly well, but wasn't in close enough to be able to convert a high enough %.

    If he'd played the short irons better he'd have crushed the field comfortably & probably should have closed out the tournament before it got to the play-off


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,923 ✭✭✭RoadRunner


    idiotic and cost him the event.

    Not Idiotic. An example of 'idiotic' might be to second-guess your abilities at the tee box of final hole, choose to move away from winning tactics, play the hole differently to practised and attempt to initiate a "par war" against your opponent - the one guy who just made par or better in all of the previous 60 holes bar 1. If the lad on your bag cast this kind of doubt in your mind at a pivotal moment during your first event in the year.. well he'd be dropped like a lead weight!

    20+ birdies, 2 eagles and joint winner after 72 holes with new gear. Not a failure.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,822 ✭✭✭✭First Up


    If he'd played the short irons better he'd have crushed the field comfortably & probably should have closed out the tournament before it got to the play-off

    Not the first time that happened.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,863 ✭✭✭seachto7


    Risteard81 wrote: »
    For one Greg Norman was a far better golfer than him. I don't care how many majors he's won at his age - he is inconsistent and frankly should not really be considered world class. He is also a terrible person.

    You're just pi**ed off with him because of flegs flegs and flegs.

    Do you know him personally to say he's a terrible person? What has he done to you?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 20,888 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    Yes on sober reflection - was disappointed with every sporting result yesterday.

    We know that rory is his own man - does his own thing and that is why he is who he is.

    On JP - Rory seems to just do his own thing , it sort of is refreshing in a way - because the other top players - the caddy is almost setting them up - their mind coach - talking over every shot.

    Rory probably hits the driver better / as accurate as his 3 wood - you rarely see Rory hit a 3 wood ?

    We learnt a good bit with the event (is meaningless) - but, Rory will be in mix for a major this year - I think he could even win 2.

    Jp will earn a **** load more money.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,926 ✭✭✭✭Seve OB


    Jp will earn a **** load more money.

    :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,378 ✭✭✭HighLine




  • Registered Users Posts: 14,150 ✭✭✭✭LuckyGent88


    HighLine wrote: »

    In hindsight, he probably should have pulled out before the second round in South Africa.
    Strange he didn't just get a scan in South Africa after that second round


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,822 ✭✭✭✭First Up


    In hindsight, he probably should have pulled out before the second round in South Africa. Strange he didn't just get a scan in South Africa after that second round

    He didn't do so bad for an injured golfer. He was repaying Els and he really boosted the gallery so it would have been a big let-down to pull out.

    Maybe he's not as big a bollox as some here believe.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,847 ✭✭✭Armchair Andy


    First Up wrote:
    He didn't do so bad for an injured golfer. He was repaying Els and he really boosted the gallery so it would have been a big let-down to pull out.


    Not being smart here but what has Els done for Rors?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,378 ✭✭✭HighLine


    First Up wrote: »
    He didn't do so bad for an injured golfer. He was repaying Els and he really boosted the gallery so it would have been a big let-down to pull out.

    Maybe he's not as big a bollox as some here believe.

    Very good point... he was obviously in pain with it but his presence made a huge effect to crowd numbers especially on Sunday.
    Not being smart here but what has Els done for Rors?

    He owed him a favour as he asked Ernie to come play at the Irish Open at RCD and Ernie obliged.


  • Registered Users Posts: 528 ✭✭✭ridonkulous


    Not being smart here but what has Els done for Rors?

    He played the IO as a favour to Rory when his foundation took over the running/sponsorship of the event. Rory only played the SA Open to return the favour.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,926 ✭✭✭✭Seve OB


    Not being smart here but what has Els done for Rors?

    Made JP a free agent. :D


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,131 ✭✭✭benny79


    Its a strange injury doe! I heard he done it hitting to many balls trying out new clubs over the off season but how do you fracture a rib playing golf? and would you not be out for months waiting on it to heal??


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