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pedroeibar1 wrote: »That was very good advice for several reasons.
(i) a mast in the water can easily hole and or badly damage a hull.
(ii) stays / shrouds/running rigging can easily wrap on the prop, at a time when your engine is seriously important (like trying to pick up somebody who went overboard.)
(iii) insurers will cheapskate you and make you use any rigging that has been saved. That is a nightmare, I know, I had to go through it once!
If you cut it away and lose it altogether, how are you fixed with the insurers though? We had to store our (broken) mast for ages, much to the annoyance of the club, and they insisted on examining it. Our main (thankfully
) got badly damaged in the incident, so they replaced that as well.
Your second point is very valid for inboards - sadly our hairdryer of an outboard (when it deigns to start at all) barely manages the boat on its own in lumpy seas, never mind a boat dragging a mast and sail after it. No engine danger in our case!
Would they really make you re-use rigging??? I find that very hard to believe. Our mast was the only thing that broke, but we got brand new standing rigging afterwards (minus the 20% or 25% because we were racing). I had assumed this would be the norm?0 -
HeidiHeidi wrote: »If you cut it away and lose it altogether, how are you fixed with the insurers though? We had to store our (broken) mast for ages, much to the annoyance of the club, and they insisted on examining it. Our main (thankfully) got badly damaged in the incident, so they replaced that as well.
Your second point is very valid for inboards - sadly our hairdryer of an outboard (when it deigns to start at all) barely manages the boat on its own in lumpy seas, never mind a boat dragging a mast and sail after it. No engine danger in our case!
Would they really make you re-use rigging??? I find that very hard to believe. Our mast was the only thing that broke, but we got brand new standing rigging afterwards (minus the 20% or 25% because we were racing). I had assumed this would be the norm?
You tell the insurers that they are lucky to be paying only for the mast and not a gelcoat job and personal injuries also! Our mast was keel-stepped, it went just at deck level and was not cut loose. We ended up having the mainsail repaired (slight damage only) and having to re-use most of the standing rigging (it was rod rigging), boom and most of the running rigging. Apart from that the insurers were ok to deal with and quite fast.
There is a danger for outboards when gear is over the side; if its prop hits a solid chunk of mast/bottlescrew, chances are that the cotter pin (correct name?) will break (as it is designed to do) so the engine will sound if it is functioning but the prop cannot turn. Racing cover made us take a 40% hit on the cost. I still remember the pain.0 -
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pedroeibar1 wrote: »You tell the insurers that they are lucky to be paying only for the mast and not a gelcoat job and personal injuries also! Our mast was keel-stepped, it went just at deck level and was not cut loose. We ended up having the mainsail repaired (slight damage only) and having to re-use most of the standing rigging (it was rod rigging), boom and most of the running rigging. Apart from that the insurers were ok to deal with and quite fast.
There is a danger for outboards when gear is over the side; if its prop hits a solid chunk of mast/bottlescrew, chances are that the cotter pin (correct name?) will break (as it is designed to do) so the engine will sound if it is functioning but the prop cannot turn. Racing cover made us take a 40% hit on the cost. I still remember the pain.
40% :eek: Holy God!!!
My point about the outboard was that we didn't even (try to) turn it on! There was no way it was going to push us, our mast and sail dragging, in lumpy seas, back into the harbour. It barely pushes the boat on its own in lumpy sea - spends half of its time popping out of the water. We got a tow
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Shear pin. It's inside the prop assembly. Always carry spare shear and split pins for an outboardpedroeibar1 wrote: »There is a danger for outboards when gear is over the side; if its prop hits a solid chunk of mast/bottlescrew, chances are that the cotter pin (correct name?) will break (as it is designed to do) so the engine will sound if it is functioning but the prop cannot turn.
Mine (20 years old) has a spot at the back of the flywheel where there's a toolkit and 2 shear pins and 2 split/cotter pins. Kill engine, lift it out, remove cotter pin, remove prop, replace shear, put back prop, put back cotter (or new), put engine back in, away you go. Takes a few minutes though. 0 -
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For those sailing off the hut today, may it be fun Lovely to see that we've done away with the laundry-on-a-line approach. Pity you'll miss out on the fresh-baked goods - the cannons don't allow me to launch food at boats, alas.
- your resident Tuesday make-things-go-bang person0 -
For those sailing off the hut today, may it be fun Lovely to see that we've done away with the laundry-on-a-line approach. Pity you'll miss out on the fresh-baked goods - the cannons don't allow me to launch food at boats, alas.
- your resident Tuesday make-things-go-bang person
Our boat won't make it out tonight (I don't generally do Tuesdays anyway) - what's changed
I'm there on Saturday week, don't fancy any (too-big) surprises!
The fresh-baked goods are generally top-notch - should be heavily advertised as an enticement to get more people down to do the hut 0 -
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Blue is the new black.. Or is it the other way around?HeidiHeidi wrote: »And it's black (unless my colour sight is gone wonky!)
There was a spoof article about black paint as a go-faster years ago, in I think Yachting Monthly, very funny. Will dig it out and post it; it was a classic and made its way into an anthology.0 -
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Royal Irish have cancelled that training regatta for this year, they had hoped to rerun but sent an email last night saying it was off.
What a shame, although understandable really - finding a weekend that doesn't clash with some event (especially since this is a year with four separate club regattas) would be nigh on impossible. The very start of the season is the only time for it really - as well as being of maximum benefit to the participants!
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HeidiHeidi wrote: »What a shame, although understandable really - finding a weekend that doesn't clash with some event (especially since this is a year with four separate club regattas) would be nigh on impossible. The very start of the season is the only time for it really - as well as being of maximum benefit to the participants!
We'll just have to pray for better weather next year
i was talking to one of the guys last week and he was saying they had hoped for this weekend but even if it went ahead i dont think weathers great. 6 regattas in dublin this year including howth & icra. thankfully their spread out over a few weeks rather then week after week0 -
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HeidiHeidi wrote: »Norra lorra wind out there tonight. ......
Where's Fergal and his big FO engines when you need him?:D
I'm not sure about a big FO engine but I hope to take the little baby out for her first spin on saturday it won't be on the Liffey but it will be the same water
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HeidiHeidi wrote: »Norra lorra wind out there tonight. ......
Where's Fergal and his big FO engines when you need him?:D
It was actually better than expected in the end 0 -
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HeidiHeidi wrote: »It was - and we beat Asterix- good night all round.
In fact, great night all round May we have many more of them!
Well done!
We won our class for the first time since we have started sailing, both first over the line, and first in IRC and ECHO.
It was brilliant, we'd a bottle of champagne in the fridge for the "first over the line" occasion which was duly consumed
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:cool:
We're getting there, roll on our new sails
We'd a new guy join us for the evening, who commented that we were a very calm crew, took care of the guys on the rail, let them know where we were going, what marks to look out for, and advance notice of tacks/gybes.
I'm saying this as Steve is now probably rolling around the floor crying with laughter at such a statement, having spent some time with us in less happy times 0 -
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40 foot yacht missing in Atlantic
The search was called off after only two days!
Families must be devastated not knowing what's happened.A search has been called off for four Britons missing in the Atlantic after their yacht began taking in water.
The men were taking the Cheeki Rafiki 40ft performance racer-cruiser to the UK after a Caribbean regatta.
Contact was lost early on Friday. It is thought they could have moved to a life raft after capsizing.
Southampton charter firm Stormforce Coaching said it was "devastated" the US Coast Guard-organised air and sea search had ended "so soon".
US Coast Guard spokesman Rob Simpson said it had "saturated the area" in a two-day search and "we would have found them" if it had been possible.
The Royal Yachting Association named the four crew members as Paul Goslin, 56, from West Camel, Somerset, Steve Warren, 52, from Bridgwater, Somerset, Andrew Bridge, 21, from Farnham, Surrey, and 23-year-old James Male, from Southampton. It described all four as "very experienced offshore yachtsmen".
Cheeki Rafiki The yacht, seen here in a photograph issued by the Royal Yachting Association, took part in Antigua Sailing Week
The crew ran into difficulties on Thursday while returning from Antigua Sailing Week.
They were delivering the vessel back after it participated in the week - one of the world's top regattas - when it started taking on water.
'Lost contact'
Stormforce director Doug Innes said: "We were in contact with the skipper and at the time the yacht and crew were keeping the situation stable.
"They had not been able to ascertain where the water ingress was from and were diverting to the Azores.
"Unfortunately we lost contact during the early hours of Friday morning and we believe it is possible the crew abandoned to the life raft."
Three US and Canadian aircraft and three merchant vessels looked for them on Friday and Saturday 1,000 miles east of Cape Cod, Massachusetts.
Mr Innes said the search efforts had been "exceptional" but the company was "devastated that the search has now been called off so soon".
The RYA said typical supplies on a life raft would include survival suits, water, food, flares and a first aid kit.
In a press release, the US Coast Guard said the search area had involved approximately 4,146 square miles and it was "extremely disappointed" not to have found the sailors.
Winds were said to have been blowing at more than 50mph, the sea reached heights of up to 20ft and visibility was reduced to under a mile.
"It is extremely challenging to respond to a distress case so far off shore, which is why it takes a joint effort with our international partners to put forward an effective search," it said.
US coast guard officer Rob Simpson told the BBC on Sunday that the yacht's locator beacons had been activated, providing it with some "general GPS co-ordinates".
He said they had not been able to link any debris found to the Cheeki Rafiki, but an overturned hull had been spotted by a container ship involved in the search "that did look like it may have been the sailing vessel". However, the ship did not stop to inspect the hull because nobody was seen on board.
Aircraft and ships travelling through the area have been alerted to the missing yacht, he added.
Costs was not a factor in the decision to call off the search, which would only restart if new information came to light, he said.
The Foreign Office confirmed it was aware of the missing yacht.
"We are in contact with the US Coastguard and have offered consular assistance to the families."0 -
40 foot yacht missing in Atlantic
The search was called off after only two days!
Families must be devastated not knowing what's happened.
:-/
Most likely the boat was sinking and they tried to get into the raft... big seas, big winds, raft fecked, them gone. Sad, but the best place in winds like that is on the boat and if the boat's gone you only have a little rubber ring with a lid basically. Couple of bad breaking waves and it's gone too.0 -
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Whacked my knee off the guardrail last week, so am rather crippled, and didn't get to go out today.
Still, the lads done good
And I've invented a new term for the vital importance of those crew there to simply act as ballast.
They perform the important function of "rail lepping" 0 -
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