Boating chit chat thread.

neris

Took my boat out for a scrub today and found this.......

Sh1tbag OToole

Was on some site and saw this image for a settings button:



All I could think was 'why in the feck is there a picture of an impeller there?'

HeidiHeidi

Holy God :eek:

How long since the last liftout???

neris wrote: »

Took my boat out for a scrub today and found this.......

neris

took it out early December last

Deenie123

Sorry if this sounds stupid but do you use any antifouling?

ahun

And what type, just avoid it?

neris

put anti foul on it last summer but shes been in the water all winter and hasnt been raced since december. will just keep getting lifted out for a power wash every few weeks over the summer

pedroeibar1

I'd slap on a coat of antifoul at next lift and thereafter use a small boy in a wetsuit, far cheaper than a hoist. (That's what kids and grandkids are for!)

HeidiHeidi

That's ridiculous growth for over a few winter months.

Every time you powerwash you'll strip more of the antifoul off.

If I were you I'd keep it out, and do a proper strip back and two coats of decent antifoul now.

HeidiHeidi

pedroeibar1 wrote: »

I'd slap on a coat of antifoul at next lift and thereafter use a small boy in a wetsuit, far cheaper than a hoist. (That's what kids and grandkids are for!)

Have you seen the rates small boys in wetsuits charge these days? :eek:

We employed one last year (on behalf of a friend who'd wrapped a spinny sheet around a propellor) and he cost a bloody fortune! AND didn't get the sheet off the prop!

pedroeibar1

Avoid those 'rich' waterfront clubs and pay by results, Heidi, it's the only way!

HeidiHeidi

pedroeibar1 wrote: »

Avoid those 'rich' waterfront clubs and pay by results, Heidi, it's the only way!

He was family - and he still charged!

(sensible kid that he is, he'll go far )

neris

pedroeibar1 wrote: »

I'd slap on a coat of antifoul at next lift and thereafter use a small boy in a wetsuit, far cheaper than a hoist. (That's what kids and grandkids are for!)

40 quid for a lift out divers about 60

Alkers

neris wrote: »

40 quid for a lift out divers about 60

Where are you getting a lift out for €40? What size boat?

ezra_

So a while back I bought a boat.

Went to collect it yesterday as the trailer had been reconditioned and was ready for road travel:

Arrive at yard.
Think about dropping mast.
Start to drop mast.
Think more about dropping mast
Try again.
Consider sailing the boat in situ.
Requisition every person in the place to help drop mast (this is a 23ft boat so should be easy and should have been doable with 2 people... ha!)
Fight the damn mast all the way down to 45 degrees
Fight the damn pivot out of the shoe
Get nutted by popping mast
Rig boat for road travel

Start the drive home
Blow tire on trailer motorway. No spare for the trailer

Deposit boat in a nice farmer's yard

Think about how I'm going to sort this...

Put ad on ApolloDuck for boat!

neris

Lambay blown out in howth today. A day spent in the bar

Tom Dunne

So I did something new this weekend - I sailed to a destination, rather than around a course.

Out foreign where I am, there's a beach resort on a small island about 2-3 miles offshore. A few of us in different boats (I was in the trusty Laser Pico) headed off to the island, pulled up on the beach, had a beer, and raced back.

A great experience - I really feel as if I have stepped up a level in my sailing this weekend.

And I won the race back. :cool:

neris

this muppet

Incident Update
8/6/2015

At 19.36 the unit were then tasked to a report of a jetskier who had not returned to Howth harbour. Coast Guard helicopter Rescue 116 and Howth Lifeboat were also tasked. Howth ILB quickly found the jetski and it's rider about 1.5km off the East pier. The jetski had broken down. The casualty was not wearing a lifejacket or a wetsuit. The lifeboat returned the casualty and the jetski back to the harbour. An ambulance was requested as the casualty was suffering from hypothermia. All units were then stood down.

2 lifeboats, helicopter, a coast guard unit, an ambulance and a fire brigade all used in this

https://www.facebook.com/howthcoastguard

pedroeibar1

Guess what sailed motored around Killiney Bay this evening:) - the Dutch sail training brig Morgenster. Sails furled in a bight, some in a bunt, tut tut (just envious I'm not aboard!).

neris

carnage'ish day in kingstown Dun Laoghaire today 1 rig down

Stheno

neris wrote: »

carnage'ish day in kingstown Dun Laoghaire today 1 rig down

What happened? Lovely day for sailing however

neris

Stheno wrote: »

What happened? Lovely day for sailing however

duno just saw an old school 1/4 tonner getting towed in. maybe now they,ll think swept backs and non over lappers

cricalix

The one I saw in the marina had a dark hull and her mast looked a bit like an attempted pretzel.

HeidiHeidi

That was our fleet. Their mast went on the first downwind leg. An awful shame as they'd have been up there in the results.

I'm surprised more didn't go, tbh - it was fairly breezy out there!

Even more forecast for today :eek:

neris

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

That was our fleet. Their mast went on the first downwind leg. An awful shame as they'd have been up there in the results.

I'm surprised more didn't go, tbh - it was fairly breezy out there!

Even more forecast for today :eek:

went in a very strange place a few foot above the goose neck and on a halyard exit

neris

Another 2 rigs (defo 1) down today on the howth course today and the lifeboat out

HeidiHeidi

neris wrote: »

Another 2 rigs (defo 1) down today on the howth course today and the lifeboat out

Any idea what fleets? I've a few pals on that course today :eek:

spaceHopper

four boats retired from the off shore class hope noting happened.

HeidiHeidi

spaceHopper wrote: »

four boats retired from the off shore class hope noting happened.

One of them was for seasick crew. Dunno about the others.

Apparently it was a consistent 30kts out beyond Bray Head. Can't say I blame them!

spaceHopper

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

One of them was for seasick crew. Dunno about the others.

Apparently it was a consistent 30kts out beyond Bray Head. Can't say I blame them!

I'm out tomorrow maybe I'd better stop off in the chemist?

HeidiHeidi

spaceHopper wrote: »

I'm out tomorrow maybe I'd better stop off in the chemist?

Well the forecast ain't looking any prettier......

neris

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

Any idea what fleets? I've a few pals on that course today :eek:

Who ever was racing in howth. A corby 25 came into howth and another went back to d.l. a j109 came into howth about 430 with a kite wrapped so well around the forestay it started to shred when they were untangling it. Also heard there was a man overboard. Lifeboat out 3 times today

HeidiHeidi

Another one of our fleet dismasted :eek:

There'll be nobody left by Sunday at this rate.

Steve

Aye, was tough out there today.

2 masts down that I know about, 1 in C1 on the Howth course, one on C3.

Did anyone else get the mayday from holyhead? 1 casualty and boat shipping water.. Hope they were rescued.

cricalix

GP14s, Squibs, Mermaids and Flying Fifteens had an ok race today. I know one of the Fireball crews from the DM joined up on a bigger boat today instead; the weather coming up to 11:30 was looking like a repeat of yesterday for South Bull/Salthill. Calmed down nicely enough for a while though, came back up and then went away again as all the dinghies tried to go home. Better than dismasting though.

Couldn't have our radio on dual watch unfortunately; had to hear the RO calling for mark moves (through the wind over the mic).

Stheno

http://afloat.ie/sail/events/volvo-dun-laoghaire-regatta/item/29315-dun-laoghaire-regatta-day-two-blog

Afloat.ie blog with video of one of the very windy starts and photos of one boat dismasted.

Is it the high winds and load it is putting on the main that is causing the dismasting?

the beer revolu

Hit 19.4 knots in a J80 today in the regatta!
Some buzz (literally)!
Nothing broken.
Pretty tough out there.
Looking forward to tomorrow!

Not been out in a couple of years. Nice refresher today but that was a long, wet, cold beat back to DL.

cricalix

Met's short-range forecast (good to 1400 right now) shows very moderated winds in comparison to yesterday, with rain arriving sometime after 1400.

neris

Why do clubs/events always persist with a band blaring music right after sailing?

neris

Hear big trouble yesterday after the boats coming back off the howth course crossed the shipping lane and one ferry had to hit reverse.

Steve

neris wrote: »

Why do clubs/events always persist with a band blaring music right after sailing?

I really don't know, you'd think the expanse of empty tables around them would give them a hint....

neris wrote: »

Hear big trouble yesterday after the boats coming back off the howth course crossed the shipping lane and one ferry had to hit reverse.

Who was that?

No call for it as the roundabout buoy wasn't far off the rhum line to the harbour.

Was a nasty sail back tho.

the beer revolu

Very flukey conditions there today.
Tough job to organise 2 races with revolving wind. Fair play to all the organisers.

I won't be out tomorrow. Best of luck to all for the last race.

pedroeibar1

Stheno wrote: »

.......very windy starts and photos of one boat dismasted.

Is it the high winds and load it is putting on the main that is causing the dismasting?

Not really; if you have too much main up and it is very windy, the boat will just lean over too much and be laid flat ; as it rights it will luff right up into the wind, because the more the boat leans over the rudder and keel are horizontal in the water and not much use. At that stage all you can do is hang on and ease the sheets. If you are racing hard when the weather is blustery and you do not want to reef/shake out a reef continuously, on a beat you can slide the traveller all the way down the track – this has the effect of narrowing the vertical slot between the foresail & main, so the luff of the main is backwinded and only part of it draws ; also easing the mainsheet in gusts helps helm in a straight line and stay upright.

Dismasting usually follows a mix of gear failure and an unfortunate sequence of events. The gear generally is designed to cope with what it is supposed to do, but bad tuning of a mast or metal fatigue or corrosion (or a combination of all) can cause aluminium to fail – e.g. a boom can break at the kicker, where rivets have corroded and it forms a weak spot. Usually when something minor breaks it triggers a chain reaction. On the weather side a rigging screw might break, or a shroud fail or a spreader collapse - that would then cause more pressure on the remaining stay/shroud, so it would part and then ….crash!

That’s why the insurer usually carries only 60% of the risk when you are racing.

It was 4-5 with gusts of 6 today in the SW, seagulls on the lawn!

HeidiHeidi

Both of the masts that came down in our fleet were under spinny at the time. Both days it was gusting up to 30kts, so huge loads on the rigs.

Yesterday was the flukiest, flakiest day I think I've ever spent saiing. There was wind, no wind, mad gusts, wild shifts (the RO said at one stage he had wind directions of 145 and 180/190 at the same time on the same - not very long - beat. I'd say he was glad of his pint when he got in!) It really was the most bizarre conditions!

Hopefully today will be a bit steadier - and lighter!

Steve

neris wrote: »

Hear big trouble yesterday after the boats coming back off the howth course crossed the shipping lane and one ferry had to hit reverse.

Not quite, a reliable source in DPA said a few boats got into trouble in the shipping lane and a ship had to take avoiding action. They weren't crossing intentionally.

the beer revolu

Steve wrote: »

Not quite, a reliable source in DPA said a few boats got into trouble in the shipping lane and a ship had to take avoiding action. They weren't crossing intentionally.

There were some pretty violent gusts there alright. I can see how that coupled with very tired and cold crew after some very challenging and wet race conditions and a long upwind slog home might lead to incidents.

neris

Steve wrote: »

Not quite, a reliable source in DPA said a few boats got into trouble in the shipping lane and a ship had to take avoiding action. They weren't crossing intentionally.

im only going on 2nd hand info. we did get our race back to howth today in the 17s stopped just before the turning mark as the ulysses ws coming in but was a good call from the guys in the national who started us.

i didnt race till saturday but was over thursday in a rib, sailed & went boozing yesterday and set off back home today and have to say it was a great event and another well run year with some good beers and food aswell.

this came into howth on friday afternoon, i wont name and shame

neris

Anyone hear anything about a boat sinking off clontarf or in the bay on saturday. Over heard parts of a conversation yesterday but didnt know the people to ask them

HeidiHeidi

neris wrote: »

Anyone hear anything about a boat sinking off clontarf or in the bay on saturday. Over heard parts of a conversation yesterday but didnt know the people to ask them

I was out on a committee boat in DL harbour on Saturday, didn't hear anything.

I know there was a regatta of some sorts over there - the Glens were sent off before DBSC racing to head over, think they were to come back the same evening.

Hope you're wrong!

neris

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

I was out on a committee boat in DL harbour on Saturday, didn't hear anything.

I know there was a regatta of some sorts over there - the Glens were sent off before DBSC racing to head over, think they were to come back the same evening.

Hope you're wrong!

Yeah was the Clontarf regatta that was on. The helicopter was flying around poolbeg chimneys/sandymount when we were leaving about 3ish but an article on afloat said they were training and then got called over to howth to a cliff rescue.