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I didn't post it originally, but being Bowman myself I think the link below is what you're after!HeidiHeidi wrote: »
Now, maybe one of you can help me out here, and save me trawling this thread (if the post I'm looking for is even on this thread!) for the next few hours.....
Someone posted somewhere a video of some superyotties racing, where a guy climbed up the downhaul to spike the spinny for the drop. I'd meant to send it to our bowman (my BIL) at the time but completely forgot. Can anyone give me a hint (or even better, a link!) to where it is? Cheers
(I don't mean anyone to go trawling on my behalf, btw! I'll do that if I have to - but if the poster can identify themselves it'll save me bucketloads of time)
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HeidiHeidi wrote: »Thanks - we were VERY pleased with ourselves!!
Looking like nice weather for the delivery - I'd be filling up on diesel though
Congrats!
Am on that delivery this Friday, my work colleagues have decided I am stone wall mad to be heading onto a boat at 11pm to sail for 14 hours lol
Had the joy of viewing a few videos of our racing recently, and observing myself, while it's useful for identifying ways you can improve, I just cannot stand the sight of myself on camera
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Off in a couple of hours on a delivery.
Vast quantities of food to take on board: Check
Dinner eaten: Check
2nd dinner planned pre boarding: Check
Seems sailing is all about the eating 0 -
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Thank you jedi knight:DMostly - you will also learn the value of sleep
Safe trip young padwan
I did learn the value of sleep, getting up at 5am, working until almost six pm and thinking a cat nap was not required was a bad bad mistake.
Ah we were in Kilmore quay by 2pmHeidiHeidi wrote: »Enjoy the trip, mind you don't get run over by the Round Ireland boats that will be setting off tomorrow good time we thought, so they never came near us :0miss no stars wrote: »And tea. Must have tea and many coats....
MANY layers, I had on three long/short sleeved tees, a fleece and my foulie jacket, and was cold
Put on another fleece and I was still cold especially early morning
I did think about taking my thermals, decided not to, and will always in future! And tea at least once every two hours
Was a great trip, learned loads of stuff:
1. Eat more
2. Value sleep
3. Bring thermals
4. Bring stuff for those times when you are slightly bored and want a distraction, e.g books.
We had on harnesses/lifelines during the night, and it was interesting for me, I've a dislike (not a fear or phobia, more a dislike) of being on the leeward side of the boat on a reach/beat, but having the harness clipped on gave me loads more confidence, I've a thing in my head that I will go over, so it got me over that. May wear it a time or two more to get better balance given the fear is gone if that makes sense?
I got to do loads of stuff I'd never normally due as I'm a 10 stone weakling compared to the rest of the crew, mainsheet, jib trim, reefing, twas fun
learned how to read a chart (ish), learned about colonials (think that's the right spelling) and how to tell if you are at the N/S/E/W one, recognising who has rights at night, loads of stuff.
Twas fun, was a bit knackered this afternoon, we'd far stronger wind than predicted, was forecast to gust to 22 and gusted to 29 at times on our instruments with 3 knots of tide against us, so it was fairly choppy for a couple of hours.
Then when we got into Kilmore quay, it was low tide, low spring tide at that, and just as we approached the marina exit, there was a giant fishing trawler that appeared to be moored in the wrong place, so we went briefly aground, but got away again by all us crew hanging out over the side
We've Cork week now next week (Jul. 7) as the second crew are delivering from Kilmore to Crosshaven tonight, then the plan is a 27 hour trip back on the boat :eek: to Dublin
I forgot to add: Goddamn whoever designed the Benneatau first series with the head in the bow. In choppy seas today, and needing to use it, it was like being in a padded cell without the padding, I can feel the bruises rising 0 -
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Bring you blankie/pillow/whatever helps you sleep. Girly pink might be ok, and you might be slagged for the color, not the item. Build up the maximum amount of sleep to hold in reserve. Photos exist of me asleep on the weather deck. Get the zzzzzzzzzzs, whenever you can. If you are not on watch after the start of an offshore go below and get zzzzs. Get zzzzzs.
Races go on round the clock - a good skipper will try to ensure that the off-watch crew gets sufficient rest; not always possible, so just as you are in the middle of a dream about a dry bed you will be woken to do something involving wet and uncomfortable. The skip has to get the balance right, a tired crew cannot perform well.
Never relax, always be prepared. We once won an ISORA that finished in Howth because we had gybed and taken down our spinnaker after Lambay and had it ready to be hoisted again if needed. It was, and we won by two seconds.
Colonials has me scratching the head - ??
Heads – not only the Benneteau, happens in all boats. The danger is when the boat moves sideways and drops faster than the contents of the bowl.
A trick we always utilised is to get a Tupperware container, half fill with segments of orange, brown sugar and a good dollop of brandy. Leave in the forepeak; dessert ready when you arrive.:)
Have a great time in Cork, best of luck for the podium!0 -
Cardinals! Took me a bit, but I reckon that's what she meant.
Bow heads - oh yes, I've been there. I wear a back brace while racing, which requires two hands to do up - I've spent embarrassingly long times in the forward heads figuring out when I can afford to let go with both hands to do the thing up without getting bounced off the ceiling. I haven't always got it right :eek:
Watches - depends on the skipper(s). I've done the Round Ireland, and a couple of Fastnets - all on the same boat. We did 3x4 hour watches between 8pm and 8am, and 2x6 hours between 8am to 8pm. Meant you (in theory) got one long sleep, and because there was an odd number of watches in a 24-hour period you weren't on the same ones day after day. That's definitely my preference, all other things being equal. But very rarely are things equal in long offshores! And oh yes, you race 24/7 on the Round Ireland, believe me!!!
Night sailing is an experience the first time - it's so totally different to daylight sailing. Last night trip I did a few weeks ago I was on watch alone coming up past Tuskar/Rosslare/Wexford, and the whole bloody SE fishing fleet seemed to be out that night careering around the place - it was a nightmare (pardon the pun!).
Oops! is all I can say to the KQ entry.... but it's not as if we all haven't nearly been there - I think that's up with the trickiest of entries I've done anywhere, especially in any kind of a blow.
You'll enjoy the trip back twice as much, now that you've that one under your belt. And yes, bring your blankie, your pillow, and whatever else makes it a bit comfier And sleep whenever, wherever you can! 0 -
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PhoenixParker wrote: »I'm keeping an eye on it.
Seems tight enough so far.
Coningbeg was meant to be left to starboard in the 2012 rules (page 9) - http://www.roundirelandyachtrace.ie/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Race-Information-Website.pdf
and as far as I know the course hasn't changed.
They're wonderfully simple course instructions, aren't they!
"Leave Ireland and all its islands excluding Rockall to starboard." That's it, plain and simple!
But is Coningbeg an island? I don't even know if it uncovers. (I don't even know what it is! I'm assuming a rock.)
The course, as drawn on the tracker, certainly seems to imply it should be left to starboard, but I cannot possibly imagine the skipper/navigator of an Open 60 getting something like that wrong :eek:0 -
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PhoenixParker wrote: »They are a beautiful set of sailing instructions, simple, clear and to the point.
There's a more detailed list of things to leave to starboard on page 9, it clearly lists Coningbeg Light Buoy as something which is to be left to starboard.
The tracker seems to draw straight lines between reporting times which are a half hour - hour apart. I'd say Newstalk went outside the buoy but because of their position before and afterwards it looks like they didn't and cut a corner of the course.
You'd know I wasn't in charge of the SI's when I did it, wouldn't you
Hadn't read that far.
Now the question is, how accurate is that tracker/course outline, and can the track actually be relied on? I'm assuming the Race Office have an accurate picture of things.....0 -
HeidiHeidi wrote: »You'd know I wasn't in charge of the SI's when I did it, wouldn't you
Hadn't read that far.
Now the question is, how accurate is that tracker/course outline, and can the track actually be relied on? I'm assuming the Race Office have an accurate picture of things.....
I wasn't the only one asking
Explanation posted on the race website (which is exactly the same as Phoenix Parker's one - fair play!)
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A question has arisen with respect to the trackers.
If one looks at some of the turning points it would appear that many of the yachts did not go outside of the rocks, such as Tuskar and Fastnet. This is not actually the case.
The tracker system works by taking a GPS position from each yacht every 30 minutes. It then joins the two dots formed by the 30 minute interval into a connected line. Accordingly the true course of the boat is not precisely that as shown on the tracker system but a summary of the positions fixed every half hour. Between the half hour readings the boat has probably gone around the course mark and then started on its next leg, but this is not recorded by the tracker as it occurred during the dormant tracker period.
It is for this reason that trackers are not permitted to be used as the basis for a protest, but isn’t it a fantastic safety feature that we can see where every boat is to within 30 minutes.
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Spiking that spinny.. nope nope nope nope.
Btw, if you competed in the DMYC regatta, let me know via PM (or publicly ) any feedback that you feel is important for us to know for two years hence. If it wasn't obvious, that bit of paper with the first prize caps needs to be filled in and sent to the office. 0 -
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pedroeibar1 wrote: »Nearly missed that! Light dawns! Definitions : Colonials are strange people with straw hats, outmoded ideas and drink pink gin; Cardinals are strange people with silk hats, outmoded ideas and drink altar wine. Not much difference really.
(For Stheno, to be known henceforth as ‘Compass Rose.’:D)
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