Everton vs Chelsea SS1 KO 17:30

Will I Amnt

Kirby wrote: »

One goal won't change my opinion on him. One of the worst players in the league in my opinion.

Andersonisgod

Cech's ball out really was poor and that leads to the Everton goal, Ivanovic's positioning could also be called into question. That was the third or fourth time there's been an overload on the back post.

Going forward there have been chances but it's a more difficult task now that Everton can just sit back. Really frustrating to concede so cheaply that late in the half.

Hercule Poirot

Kirby wrote: »

I'm not embarrassed, I thought he was doing quite well, but one goal does not make up for last season's pathetic performances - another 5 goals in 10 games and I might change my opinion

DazMarz

well, shíte...

eh i dunno

eh i dunno wrote: »

Looks a star already and wish he was starting ahead of the useless Naismith.

Useless is a term we use to motivate players

jamaamaj

Will I Amnt wrote: »

One goal won't change my opinion on him. One of the worst players in the league in my opinion.

Very harsh opinion on Naismith,
Who has 24 caps for scotland and even scored against Spain.
And has won lots of medals from his time with Rangers.
Lots of bad players in the premiership and many worst than naismith.

Kirby

Andersonisgod wrote: »

Cech's ball out really was poor and that leads to the Everton goal, Ivanovic's positioning could also be called into question. That was the third or fourth time there's been an overload on the back post.

There was absolutely nothing wrong with Ivanovic's positioning there. It's Luiz' man who scores with a free header......and Luiz randomly runs around like he always does....instead of calmly holding his position and marking his man.

I know you think he'll end up at Barca in the end and therefore walks on water in your eyes, but call a spade a spade. Luiz was more at fault from that than Cech.

Andersonisgod

Kirby wrote: »

There was absolutely nothing wrong with Ivanovic's positioning there. It's Luiz' man who scores with a free header......and Luiz randomly runs around like he always does....instead of calmly holding his position and marking his man.

I know you think he'll end up at Barca in the end and therefore walks on water in your eyes, but call a spade a spade. Luiz was more at fault from that than Cech.

Barcelona or no Barcelona hrs my favourite defender playing, for me, he's one of the best defenders in the world. I don't agree that he is more at fault than Cech and I accept that that aggressive pressing is how he defends.

Panthro

Welll FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!

Will I Amnt

jamaamaj wrote: »

Very harsh opinion on Naismith,
Who has 24 caps for scotland and even scored against Spain.
And has won lots of medals from his time with Rangers.
Lots of bad players in the premiership and many worst than naismith.

Just my opinion. I'm not saying he's the absolute worst player in the league, I just don't rate him at all. International caps and scoring against Spain wouldn't change my opinion either.

Kirby

Andersonisgod wrote: »

Barcelona or no Barcelona hrs my favourite defender playing, for me, he's one of the best defenders in the world. I don't agree that he is more at fault than Cech and I accept that that aggressive pressing is how he defends.

"Aggressive Pressing" is not what he did. He ran to tackle a player who already had 3 Chelsea players around him and left Terry and Ivanovic to mark 3 everton players on their own. It was atrocious defending.

Panthro

Andersonisgod wrote: »

Barcelona or no Barcelona hrs my favourite defender playing, for me, he's one of the best defenders in the world. I don't agree that he is more at fault than Cech and I accept that that aggressive pressing is how he defends.

In fairness, Luiz left left man, Ivanovic had 2 players to mark.
Luiz's fault mate.

That_Guy

Come on Chelsea!!

Red Crow

jamaamaj wrote: »

Very harsh opinion on Naismith,
Who has 24 caps for scotland and even scored against Spain.
And has won lots of medals from his time with Rangers.
Lots of bad players in the premiership and many worst than naismith.

He's quite a decent player but he's been pretty poor for Everton although I would say that may be because of injury and lack of consecutive playing time. He's had far more terrible performances for Everton than decent ones.

Yous are seriously going to try and change AIG's mind about something? :pac:

Nailz

Chelsea need to get Eto'o off, he's not up to it for this game, obviously to do with a lack of training and game time he's gotten. Torres would put in a shift regardless of form.



Watch this, Eto'o will score now...

Footoo

I used to love when the big teams came to Goodison under Moyes. The performances were so intense. This is different...

Not neccessarily worse, just different.

Footoo

Btw Osman is out of his dept playing Martinez style. His decision making is too slow.

klose

Etoo looks miles off the pace, pretty damning interview i read the other day from roberto carlos about him over in anzhi

Red Crow

David Luiz is awfull at positioning.

Also Eto'o has suffered badly in Anzhi. Half the player he was

Panthro

Now, a bit of life might be injected here.

Will I Amnt

There has to be something to that Mourinho/Mata thing...

Hercule Poirot

I've always felt that Luiz would make a better DM or CM than a CB - this wouldn't be the first time he has gone awol in his own penalty area

iMuse

Schurrle hasn't looked great from what I've seen so far this season

Nailz

Hercule Poirot wrote: »

I've always felt that Luiz would make a better DM or CM than a CB - this wouldn't be the first time he has gone awol in his own penalty area

I don't think Brazil do defensively committed backs, Thiago Silva and David Luis in the centre is just stupidly attacking for a CB partnership.

klose

Both teams look as if they could do with lukaku. Which is ironic

Will I Amnt

Webb is such a weak referee, wasn't going to give that foul only Mikel grabbed the ball.

Panthro

Cole for Torres?
What?!

Hulk Hands

Wayhay, Mourinho finally decides to be attacking. Chelsea have never been the most exciting team, but Mourinho really has inspired some dross thus far this year. I really thought it'd be different this time round seeing as the teams strength seems to be it's attacking players. You can see why Madrid never warmed to him.

Nailz

Panthro wrote: »

Cole for Torres?
What?!

A very un-Mourinho substitution.


McCarthy should end up replacing Osman in the starting 11, Osman's too much graft and not enough technical skill to play under Martinez.

.jacksparrow.

Hazard really hasn't shown his potential since arriving at Chelsea.

Footoo

70min Everton sub

Moyes for Martinez.

Panthro

Eto'o taking on Coleman.
Ahh now.
It's not 2006 any more Eto'o.

Panthro

.jacksparrow. wrote: »

Hazard really hasn't shown his potential since arriving at Chelsea.

13 goals and 20 assists in total last season.:rolleyes:
Would ya stop.

.jacksparrow.

Panthro wrote: »

13 goals and 20 assists in total last season.:rolleyes:
Would ya stop.

Really? Maybe haven't seen enough of him but he seems to loose the ball a lot.

jamaamaj

.jacksparrow. wrote: »

Hazard really hasn't shown his potential since arriving at Chelsea.

LOL, the arsenal fans on this thread are hilarious.

Hercule Poirot

.jacksparrow. wrote: »

Really? Maybe haven't seen enough of him but he seems to loose the ball a lot.

He hasn't started this season on all cylinders - but last season he was unplayable at times

ThunbergsAreGo

Think there is another goal in this

.jacksparrow.

I'm reading 12 assists and 12 goals for last season.

Anyway.

Headshot

Bob is such a liability

Panthro

Mikel should have been replace by Torres.

Red Crow

Should be a red card.

Hercule Poirot

jamaamaj wrote: »

LOL, the arsenal fans on this thread are hilarious.

That explains it :P

ThunbergsAreGo

Think he should have gone there, the definition of a professional foul

.jacksparrow.

Hercule Poirot wrote: »

That explains it :P

Good one.

Red Crow

Headshot wrote: »

Bob is such a liability

Overrated. Poor positioning and makes up for his flaws with his pace.

titan18

So cynical that he should have gone there

kaimera

Chelsea look pretty average.

Good performance tho by Everton

FearDark

What a game.

Mars Bar

Hercule Poirot wrote: »

He hasn't started this season on all cylinders - but last season he was unplayable at times

He was by all means playable, he was just almost unstoppable.