Aviva Premiership 13/14 season thread

irishbucsfan · 21-09-2013 5:13pm

Hahaha ref has completely unfairly handed the game back to Gloucester and they won the game with a stoppage time penalty.

Alex King looks like you could fry an egg on his head.

Hagz · 21-09-2013 5:14pm

Draaama

irishbucsfan · 22-09-2013 1:05pm

http://sport.bt.com/video-01363814401986?videoid=2684129715001

Dunno if BT have geoblocked this, but its that try from the game yesterday. Just brilliant from North to pull something like that out with 2 minutes left when you're down by 6 points. Never thought I'd see him do it below international level!

CatFromHue · 22-09-2013 1:08pm

irishbucsfan wrote: »

http://sport.bt.com/video-01363814401986?videoid=2684129715001

Dunno if BT have geoblocked this, but its that try from the game yesterday. Just brilliant from North to pull something like that out with 2 minutes left when you're down by 6 points. Never thought I'd see him do it below international level!

It's blocked in my country, Ireland.

Hopefully RugbyDump will put it up.

duckysauce · 22-09-2013 1:35pm

CatFromHue wrote: »

It's blocked in my country, Ireland.

Hopefully RugbyDump will put it up.

Crap quality clip, great try though. The ref should be shot for the way the game ended.

irishbucsfan · 22-09-2013 1:37pm

Shaun Edwards doing a defensive session on BT right now in the studio. Its a bit mad but it's fascinating to hear what he has to say

dtpc191991 · 22-09-2013 1:57pm

shuffol wrote: »

The latest fare from Saracens

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/24120369

As bad as Henson is that is extremely disrepectful of Saracens and totally out of line with the ethos of what rugby is about. I hope Bath actually let him take a few kicks at goal just to punish them for their insolence.

CatFromHue · 22-09-2013 1:58pm

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Shaun Edwards doing a defensive session on BT right now in the studio. Its a bit mad but it's fascinating to hear what he has to say

I only have Saorview, stop teasing me :pac::pac::pac:

irishbucsfan · 22-09-2013 1:59pm

The game is starting now.

Really hoping Henson plays well. Shaun Edwards was talking up his importance.

Grandpa Hassan · 22-09-2013 2:08pm

Just watched the highlights of yesterday on BT sport. Looks like Tuilagi is back with a vengeance. I know that Newcastle need to go back to tackling school, but bloody hell, he was like a demolition ball!

irishbucsfan · 22-09-2013 2:10pm

Bath have a penakty under the posts but Henson isn't taking it

P_1 · 22-09-2013 2:24pm

Sponsoring the stadium announcer calls now? Really Saracens, really?

irishbucsfan · 22-09-2013 2:29pm

Saracens are just playing at such a high standard at the moment. They look extremely well coached. Bath the opposite

irishbucsfan · 05-10-2013 4:10pm

2nd game in the day of derbies is at half time now. Only saw the end of the first half due to the Top 14 game. Commentator said it was exciting for the neutrals, so good stuff.

Swiwi. · 08-10-2013 12:30pm

Pablo Matera has signed for Leicester, that's a quality signing for them.

matthew8 · 26-10-2013 3:48pm

Northampton-Saracens is pretty good. Manoa in for a wonderful try.

Buer · 26-10-2013 4:03pm

17-3 to Northampton and this is without Hartley, Wood, Coribisiero, North and Lawes.

Tox56 · 26-10-2013 4:04pm

Buer wrote: »

17-3 to Northampton and this is without Hartley, Wood, Coribisiero, North and Lawes.

I'm as worried about the NH games as I was of the Clermont double header last year

matthew8 · 26-10-2013 4:08pm

Buer wrote: »

17-3 to Northampton and this is without Hartley, Wood, Coribisiero, North and Lawes.

It's not like Saracens are at full strength either. No Vunipolas, Barritt, Ashton or Farrell.

I don't think Northampton will be able to do as much in attack against Leinster.

Buer · 26-10-2013 4:13pm

matthew8 wrote: »

It's not like Saracens are at full strength either. No Vunipolas, Barritt, Ashton or Farrell.

I don't think Northampton will be able to do as much in attack against Leinster.

True but I would have thought Northampton's stars are far more central to their side than Saracens are theirs; they've far more depth in their squad.

I think Northampton are going to rely on their pack to physically batter into Leinster. They don't have a huge amount of guile behind the pack but the battering rams like Burrell will get them on the front foot.

If Leinster can match them physically and hold them on the gain line they've a good chance but with guys of the power of Lawes and Hartley, that's a big ask.

CatFromHue · 26-10-2013 4:13pm

Why aren't any of those guys playing?

matthew8 · 26-10-2013 4:16pm

CatFromHue wrote: »

Why aren't any of those guys playing?

England camp I believe.

Buer · 26-10-2013 4:16pm

CatFromHue wrote: »

Why aren't any of those guys playing?

I assume it's part of the elite squad agreement between PRL and the RFU. Players are released from club duty 14 days in advance of the autumn internationals and the 6N.

Hype710 · 26-10-2013 4:36pm

England are playing Australia next weekend.

sydthebeat · 26-10-2013 4:37pm

Everything good from saints today has come through myler, he needs to be given as little space as possible in our double header.

sydthebeat · 26-10-2013 4:46pm

I wonder what the physics behind "hand went back but ball went forward" judgement are? ?

matthew8 · 26-10-2013 4:49pm

sydthebeat wrote: »

I wonder what the physics behind "hand went back but ball went forward" judgement are? ?

Basically it's relative velocity. I think an easy way to judge it is unless the passer got tackled after giving the pass, if the ball is behind him after he passes it, it is then a backward pass.

sydthebeat · 26-10-2013 4:59pm

matthew8 wrote: »

Basically it's relative velocity. I think an easy way to judge it is unless the passer got tackled after giving the pass, if the ball is behind him after he passes it, it is then a backward pass.

Still doesn't explain how if the hand movement is backward how the ball can go forward, regardless of the velocity of the player.
Its just extra elastic for the tmo in my opinion.

CatFromHue · 26-10-2013 5:02pm

If you're driving in a car at 60mph and throw a rock out the window. From the spot you throw the rock which direction will it move? Forward from the spot or backwards?

Buer · 26-10-2013 5:04pm

sydthebeat wrote: »

Still doesn't explain how if the hand movement is backward how the ball can go forward, regardless of the velocity of the player.
Its just extra elastic for the tmo in my opinion.

It does if you think about the momentum of the carrier making the ball actually travel forward despite being thrown in a backwards motion. It's one of those things that we innately perform without ever noticing until it's slowed down.

The classic video that explains it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgMlDy2jP9s

Ball is passed in backwards movement but it drifts forward due to player's own velocity.

matthew8 · 26-10-2013 5:08pm

sydthebeat wrote: »

Still doesn't explain how if the hand movement is backward how the ball can go forward, regardless of the velocity of the player.
Its just extra elastic for the tmo in my opinion.

Because the hand isn't actually moving backwards. The hand is moving backwards relative to the rest of the player's body, ie he is moving his hand backwards from his point of view, but because the rest of the body is moving forward so fast the hand is actually going forward, and hence the ball is going forward.

Hype710 · 26-10-2013 5:09pm

I for one am delighted the passing rule is finally being refereed properly.

matthew8 · 27-10-2013 3:42pm

Wasps Leicester is an alright game. Goode playing pretty well for Wasps, instrumental for their try and good off the tee.

sydneybound · 27-10-2013 4:19pm

matthew8 wrote: »

Wasps Leicester is an alright game. Goode playing pretty well for Wasps, instrumental for their try and good off the tee.

Goode has been brilliant in this second half.

sydneybound · 27-10-2013 4:43pm

Good match for Goode. Brilliant kick, game over.

matthew8 · 29-12-2013 4:49pm

2 tries for Eamonn Sheridan today against Gloucester. The first wasn't much, pretty much fell over the line, and the second wasn't great either, but he looks a good player and someone who might be worth signing by an Irish province.

Unfortunately Hagan hasn't looked great since he came on and O'Leary still has a very poor pass and was probably the main man responsible for blowing a try 1 metre out by not deciding to go wide with an outrageous numerical advantage.

Huphreys with 2 missed kicks also, 1 was extremely makeable. Might cost them the game.

thomond2006 · 29-12-2013 4:54pm

matthew8 wrote: »

2 tries for Eamonn Sheridan today against Gloucester. The first wasn't much, pretty much fell over the line, and the second wasn't great either, but he looks a good player and someone who might be worth signing by an Irish province.

Unfortunately Hagan hasn't looked great since he came on and O'Leary still has a very poor pass and was probably the main man responsible for blowing a try 1 metre out by not deciding to go wide with an outrageous numerical advantage.

Huphreys with 2 missed kicks also, 1 was extremely makeable. Might cost them the game.

Sheridan is under contract until the end of next season, when he'll have just turned 26. He could be an option for the provinces.

aimee1 · 10-02-2014 10:31pm

just watched highlights of saracens v LI on setanta. Allianz park is a soulless experience. The crowd was poor by the looks of it and the ground is wide open.

Molester Stallone · 10-02-2014 11:31pm

aimee1 wrote: »

just watched highlights of saracens v LI on setanta. Allianz park is a soulless experience. The crowd was poor by the looks of it and the ground is wide open.

Are Sarries not discussing a move away from there at the moment?

11-02-2014 10:27am

Molester Stallone wrote: »

Are Sarries not discussing a move away from there at the moment?

Are they? They've only just moved in this year!

Winters · 11-02-2014 10:47am

Molester Stallone wrote: »

Are Sarries not discussing a move away from there at the moment?

You are probably thinking of Sale Sharks. Another soulless dreary ground.

Molester Stallone · 11-02-2014 6:55pm

Winters wrote: »

You are probably thinking of Sale Sharks. Another soulless dreary ground.

Crap! It's very possible, the story was on skys site at the weekend, it may have been a typo or I misread it.

bilston · 13-02-2014 3:53pm

I saw this on the PR website

Preview: Sale v Saracens
Round 14 of the Premiership kicks-off with a mouth-watering fixture between Sale and Saracens at the AJ Bell Stadium on Friday.

Mouth-watering? Really?

If nothing else the PRL and it's media partners do their bit in marketing the Premiership. I hope to see something similar happen with the Pro 12 next season when Sky get on board.

CatFromHue · 13-02-2014 6:09pm

Mouth watering, no!

It is an important game though. In the Rabo we've 5 teams going for the playoffs and that's it, Lanelli are too far down the table to realistically challenge (unless they win in Belfast).

The Aviva is different as there's a lot of teams in contention for the play off spots of which Sale are one.

Zzippy · 13-02-2014 6:18pm

aimee1 wrote: »

just watched highlights of saracens v LI on setanta. Allianz park is a soulless experience. The crowd was poor by the looks of it and the ground is wide open.

I was over there last month for the Connacht game (we'll say no more of that..

). The ground is a bit open, but the club do a huge amount to make the fan experience a good one - from laying on free transfer buses to the stadium, volunteers directing you from the bus stop, plenty of bars and restaurants at the ground, plenty of "razzmatazz" and entertainment for kids. The fans we met were good craic and very committed to following their team, including the £500 cost of a season ticket! Certainly not soulless, and very much the impression of a family club, despite perceptions over here of Nigel Wray and money-grabbing backstabbers...

matthew8 · 13-02-2014 7:39pm

It is actually a decent match-up. Sale are in contention for the playoffs and are in good form.

bilston · 13-02-2014 8:37pm

matthew8 wrote: »

It is actually a decent match-up. Sale are in contention for the playoffs and are in good form.

I'm sure it is but then Ulster v Scarlets (3rd v 5th) in the Pro 12 is too but there is bugger all hype about it.

I suppose I'm just praising the Premiership marketing men, which whatever you may think about the PRL, are very good at their job.

matthew8 · 15-02-2014 5:44pm

Tomas O'Leary is after picking up a red card today.

Bath Exeter is brilliant despite Andrew Small's constant blowing of the whistle. 3 great tries by Bath.

aimee1 · 16-02-2014 9:50pm

matthew8 wrote: »

Tomas O'Leary is after picking up a red card today.

is there a video anywhere of this incident?

CatFromHue · 16-02-2014 10:03pm

aimee1 wrote: »

is there a video anywhere of this incident?

The full match is up on the Aviva Premiership site. You'll have to go to the full game video though and skip to 54mins.

He stood on the guys head all right but it wasn't really a stamp in that there was no real power in it.

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