Aviva Premiership 13/14 season thread

ScrubsfanChris

Davei141 wrote: »

Officials have been against Sarries the whole game, not surprising they have the final say.

Sarries have been awarded nearly double the amount of penalties than Northampton have.
But ya, its the officials :rolleyes:

Well done to Northampton, they deserved to win this match, winning it on points rather than a stupid "try's scored" rule makes it all the sweeter for them.

AngeGal

Davei141 wrote: »

Spot on. Tired of listening to people always cheering when they lose, even against a team full of mercenaries like Toulon who just buy up all the best players. Sarries didn't need to flash the cash to be the best team in England and one of the best in Europe.

They're not matching French spending but not exactly doing it on a shoestring either.

http://www.therugbypaper.co.uk/latest-breaking-news/15791/unfair-cry-clubs-over-huge-loss-at-sarries/

Davei141

ScrubsfanChris wrote: »

Sarries have been awarded nearly double the amount of penalties than Northampton have.
But ya, its the officials :rolleyes:

Well done to Northampton, they deserved to win this match, winning it on points rather than a stupid "try's scored" rule makes it all the sweeter for them.

Ah of course they had more penalties considering the possession. Northampton had a much more killer edge and deserved their victory no complaints, i am just bitter.

AngeGal they have built a squad based on great coaching, which superstars have they bought up?

OldRio

Wonderful result.

thomond2006

Two final losses in a week for Saracens.

darragh_haven

Did farrell get injured celebrating a try that was disallowed?

OldRio

thomond2006 wrote: »

Two final losses in a week for Saracens.

What a pleasing sentence that is.

'Two final losses in a week for Saracens.'

It just falls off the tongue.

'Two final losses in a week for Saracens'

Something poetic and lyric about those words.

CatFromHue

darragh_haven wrote: »

Did farrell get injured celebrating a try that was disallowed?

It was disallowed for a forward pass in the lead up to him scoring but when he touched it down he got up and booted the ball in the air which caused him some straight away discomfort and was then taken off.

Flincher

Davei141 wrote: »

Spot on. Tired of listening to people always cheering when they lose, even against a team full of mercenaries like Toulon who just buy up all the best players. Sarries didn't need to flash the cash to be the best team in England and one of the best in Europe.

You're more likely to find me lowering my testicles into a food blender than supporting the likes of Ashton and Farrell.

Both have contemptible attitudes towards other players. Sneaky off the ball hits, yelling abuse at place kickers, they also both have extremely punchable faces...

Add to that the blaring of cheesy chants over opposition supporters and the whole ERC business and you might go some way towards finding out why Sarries aren't exactly everybody's second favourite team.

sydthebeat

Flincher wrote: »

You're more likely to find me lowering my testicles into a food blender than supporting the likes of Ashton and Farrell.

Both have contemptible attitudes towards other players. Sneaky off the ball hits, yelling abuse at place kickers, they also both have extremely punchable faces...

Add to that the blaring of cheesy chants over opposition supporters and the whole ERC business and you might go some way towards finding out why Sarries aren't exactly everybody's second favourite team.

One word

Venter.

Davei141

Flincher wrote: »

You're more likely to find me lowering my testicles into a food blender than supporting the likes of Ashton and Farrell.

Both have contemptible attitudes towards other players. Sneaky off the ball hits, yelling abuse at place kickers, they also both have extremely punchable faces...

Add to that the blaring of cheesy chants over opposition supporters and the whole ERC business and you might go some way towards finding out why Sarries aren't exactly everybody's second favourite team.

Ashton isn't a dirty player. Ever hear Ashton interviewed? One of the soundest guys around. Just face it you hate him because he swan dives like half the people on this forum who hate him.

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience

Davei141 wrote: »

Ashton isn't a dirty player. Ever hear Ashton interviewed? One of the soundest guys around. Just face it you hate him because he swan dives like half the people on this forum who hate him.

He hasn't covered himself in glory with the shouting at the kicker debacle. And while i do think he gets a bit too much stick he has a poor enough temperament

Which is a shame because he does seem like a gent off the field, as does Hartley

Davei141

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience wrote: »

He hasn't covered himself in glory with the shouting at the kicker debacle. And while i do think he gets a bit too much stick he has a poor enough temperament

Which is a shame because he does seem like a gent off the field, as does Hartley

One incident though, and a very minor one at that. Definitely not something to warrant the abuse he receives. It is very much irrational. Hartley deserves his rep because he is a dirty fecker on the field.

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience

Davei141 wrote: »

One incident though, and a very minor one at that. Definitely not something to warrant the abuse he receives. It is very much irrational. Hartley deserves his rep because he is a dirty fecker on the field.

he hardly does himself any favours with the swan dive. Not that i have a massive problem with it, he'll drop one someday

19543261

Davei141 wrote: »

One incident though, and a very minor one at that. Definitely not something to warrant the abuse he receives. It is very much irrational. Hartley deserves his rep because he is a dirty fecker on the field.

Talking a lot of sense. I think most have almost forgotten why he's disliked, he's so engrained in people. It snowballed.

thomond2006

http://balls.ie/rugby/gif-owen-farrell-injured-celebrating-try-count/?utm_campaign=twitter&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitter

glorious

sdevine89

Does he keep control of the ball?

vine.co/v/MpuAPqY1FHi

matthew8

I think you could see from the 15 or so replays that it never left his hand. TMO did a great job yesterday, helped out the inexperienced Doyle as much as possible.

CatFromHue

sdevine89 wrote: »

Does he keep control of the ball?

vine.co/v/MpuAPqY1FHi

I think so yeah, it never leaves his possession

Tox56

Davei141 wrote: »

One incident though, and a very minor one at that. Definitely not something to warrant the abuse he receives. It is very much irrational. Hartley deserves his rep because he is a dirty fecker on the field.

Why does this argument have to keep resurfacing, it's irrational to you because you don't dislike him, it's not a black and white thing for one person to decide what is 'deserved'

19543261

edit: nevermind

Davei141

Tox56 wrote: »

Why does this argument have to keep resurfacing, it's irrational to you because you don't dislike him, it's not a black and white thing for one person to decide what is 'deserved'

It is irrational because people foam at the mouth any time he is mentioned. And for what? Because the guy swan dives? There are players who are complete scum on the field and off yet they wouldn't even get a 10th of the abuse Ashton receives. If you want to give some proper reasons for disliking someone so intently i am all ears. Happy Googling.

Flincher

Davei141 wrote: »

It is irrational because people foam at the mouth any time he is mentioned. And for what? Because the guy swan dives? There are players who are complete scum on the field and off yet they wouldn't even get a 10th of the abuse Ashton receives. If you want to give some proper reasons for disliking someone so intently i am all ears. Happy Googling.

I personally dislike the arrogance he displays on the pitch, combined with the goading of opposition players (I've seen the lad play in Thomond on three occasions, he's always at it). I wasn't a fan of him dragging Tuilagi into touch by the hair either.

To be fair, you're clearly a big Sarries fan. You could have a pop at a Munster player and I'd hop up on my high horse just as quickly.

Tox56

Davei141 wrote: »

It is irrational because people foam at the mouth any time he is mentioned. And for what? Because the guy swan dives? There are players who are complete scum on the field and off yet they wouldn't even get a 10th of the abuse Ashton receives. If you want to give some proper reasons for disliking someone so intently i am all ears. Happy Googling.

I don't care if you like him or dislike him, it's a completely subjective personal thing

Davei141

Flincher wrote: »

I personally dislike the arrogance he displays on the pitch, combined with the goading of opposition players (I've seen the lad play in Thomond on three occasions, he's always at it). I wasn't a fan of him dragging Tuilagi into touch by the hair either.

To be fair, you're clearly a big Sarries fan. You could have a pop at a Munster player and I'd hop up on my high horse just as quickly.

Level of arrogance displayed on the pitch is a bit of a meaningless statement though, hes a winger i expect arrogance! In fairness he has toned down the goading loads, i rarely if ever see him do it these days. Tuilagi incident was years ago too, you would be hard pressed to find more recent incidents.

awec

Just saw this result!

Grimebox

As much as it pains me to say it, other than shouting at the kicker recently and the swan dives, Ashton is a gent. He gets way too much stick

irishbucsfan

Grimebox wrote: »

As much as it pains me to say it, other than shouting at the kicker recently and the swan dives, Ashton is a gent. He gets way too much stick

It's never really been a complaint with much of a basis in reality. It's just people getting caught up in the drama of the sport, looking for some bad guys. It's basically like the sporting equivalent of Eastenders or Coronation Street. Some people are much easier to frame that way, for some especially if they're English. I'm sure it'll always be that way... guys like Hartley and Farrell portrayed as villians, guys like Quinlan and Clohessy portrayed as heroes. It adds to the enjoyment of the game for a lot of people.

irishbucsfan

Gloucester have signed James Hook.

Means their halfbacks next season will conceivably be Laidlaw and Hook, which is fascinating to think about as they can complement each other in theory.

With him moving so close to home I wonder if that will increase his international chances. Also may put some more pressure on the WRU to come to some release agreement with PRL.

matthew8

Bristol-Welsh on now. Big mountain for Bristol but they come in as 11 point favourites, need a 20 point win.

They go for a shot at goal but Robinson misses. Fairly big match in the context of English rugby.

Stanza2

Bristol have spent fortunes, it would not be good for them to stay in the Championship for another year. Last ever game in the memorial stadium. Big pressure on Bristol. Hope LW win !

matthew8

And Welsh take a 3-0 lead. Neither side looks good at all in attack. Hard to see Bristol coming back now in the rain.

thomond2006

It's beyond stupid that their season finishes so late. The risk that Bristol took in mass recruitment shouldn't be a risk needed to be taken in the first place.

matthew8

Looks like a try for Bristol and it was a great cross field kick from Robinson, but the finish was fantastic too.

Robinson will probably miss the conversion though.

Luke Pearce doing well in the middle of the park again.

(Was referee for Leinster v Ulster at end of the season)

thomond2006

8-6 at half-time, miracle needed in that weather.

matthew8

Try for Bristol to start the second half! Game on!

thomond2006

matthew8 wrote: »

Try for Bristol to start the second half! Game on!

Nobody was covering the binned scrum half's defensive position.

matthew8

How many hard shots at goal will they give Nicky Robinson before realising he's not making them?

Snow and Rope

thomond2006

Jaysus

Robinson off

matthew8

Pearce has been consistent but he has given the defensive side absolutely nothing at the breakdown.

Nicky Robinson goes off to cheers, he can't be feeling very good right now.

Taco Corp

Bristols ball carriers are getting isolated all the time. a different ref would be calling pens for holding on more often.

thomond2006

Shocker from the Bristol flanker.

Swan Curry

Watching this makes me feel like I've stepped back through time.

thomond2006

21-36 in aggregate now. Game, set and match.

thomond2006

Jarvis' kicking from hand has been useless.

matthew8

Try for Bristol. Game on again.