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  • Registered Users Posts: 509 ✭✭✭bigronnie9



    Jesus but those reverse flys are more of a killer than I ever anticipated.

    trying to do 25 reverse flys with decent form is a serious reality check, even with light weights... I don't think it ever gets easier!!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    bigronnie9 wrote: »
    trying to do 25 reverse flys with decent form is a serious reality check, even with light weights... I don't think it ever gets easier!!!

    I've pretty much resigned myself to that now.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Wednesday 20/5/2015

    A1) Underhand BB Row (2010)
    65kg x 4 x 10

    A2) Seated DB OHP (2010)
    20kg x 4 x 8


    B1) DB Flys (3010)
    12.5kg x 4 x 12

    B2) Squats
    85kg x 4 x 8


    C1) Deadlift
    147.5kg x 4 x 2

    C2) DB Bench Press (2010)
    18kg x 15
    20kg x 15
    20kg x 2 x 15


    Had to split the session and do A's and B's before work and C's after.

    Was going with to start with 10s on flys and see how the tempo felt with them but all the 10s gone.

    It wasn't ideal to be doing this workout today but with time squeezed in the evenings, it's the least worst option for trying to get the workouts done. But I felt pretty fresh this morning.

    DLs started poorly but were really smooth for sets 2-4. Had to test out what I'd use for high rep DB benching. 21kg DBs would've been about right for all 4 sets.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Thursday 21/5/2015

    A) Good Morning (3010)
    (60s rest)
    45kg x 5 x 10


    B) Hamstring Curls (2020)
    (90s rest)
    72.5kg x 4 x 12


    C) Decline Sit Ups
    (<90s rest)
    +17.5kg x 4 x 12


    D) Deadlift
    166kg x 4 x 3


    E) RDLs
    92.5kg x 5 x 8



    A-C before work (grand). D, E after work

    The 4x3 DLs don't read like much volume but it's easily the most volume I've ever done at 85%. ( Possible fart PR on 1st rep of 2nd set too.)

    1st two sets were fine. 3rd was a bit sloppy - didn't get behind the bar enough.

    Prioritised DLs and gave 4-5 mins rest between sets. If didn't get all RDLs done in time, so be it. Made all the difference I think.

    Happy enough with today's effort.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,628 ✭✭✭Señor Fancy Pants


    Good man Alf!!

    Just saw your 8 mile time, fair fcuks ya bollox! :)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Good man Alf!!

    Just saw your 8 mile time, fair fcuks ya bollox! :)

    If I ran 8 miles in 35 and a half mins, I'd have a few running medals :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,628 ✭✭✭Señor Fancy Pants


    If I ran 8 miles in 35 and a half mins, I'd have a few running medals :D

    Ah jaysis! Kilometres!!!! :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Sunday 24/5/2015

    A) Squats
    97.5kg x 3 x 8
    97.5kg x 11


    B) Pause Squats (22X0)
    77.5kg x 5 x 8


    C) Front Squat (2010)
    65kg x 5 x 8


    D1) Split Squats (3010)
    65kg x 2 x 6/6

    D2) Tempo Squat (4010)
    55kg x 2 x 12

    D3) Reverse Lunge
    45kg x 2 x 25/25



    Probably had another rep or two at squats. Pins and needles in left hand again. Must be the way the bar is on my back.

    Felt solid through the whole workout.

    Was a bit shy on time for last round of D's but hip flexor was at me a bit anyway so thought it wiser to call it. Was well able for the last round at least. Felt pretty tired but strong enough


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Tuesday 26/5/2015

    Week 3

    A) Bench
    72.5kg x 3 x 6
    72.5kg x 8


    B) CGBP (2010)
    60kg x 5 x 8


    C) DB Incline Bench (2010)
    20kgs x 5 x 8


    D1) DB Bent Over Row (3010)
    35kg x 3 x 6

    D2) Lat Pulldown (4010)
    67.5kg x 3 x 12

    D3) DB Reverse Flys
    4kg x 3 x 25



    Widened to middle fingers on rings for 2nd set. No likey. Set felt awful. Wasn't sure if a full 9th rep was there on last set but would have been very, very close if not. Last set was best set though. But 8 equals a rep PR done fresh so I'll take that.

    Didn't get bench I'd usually use so stayed where I was and did CGBP after benching. No incline bench so went with DBs.

    The D's really do wipe you out. The super slow negative buuuuuurns.

    Went in feeling like it might be a 1-in-5 but happy enough with that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Wednesday 27/5/2015

    A1) BB OHP (2010)
    40kg x 4 x 10

    A2) One-arm DB Rows (2010)
    30kg x 4 x 8 e/s


    B1) Push Ups (3010)
    4 x 10

    B2) Split Squats (3010)
    70kg x 4 x 10


    A's and B's before work.

    With a unilateral exercise in A and B I thought I'd be tight on time so kept rests down. Made what reads as relatively easy more taxing. Room for heavier DBs on the rows though.

    Supposed to be C's after work (DL 156 x 4 x 2 and DB flys @ 4 x 15) but they never happened because I had to go to hospital instead of the gym. Probably won't get to squeeze it in elsewhere this week since it's DLs tomorrow and all the squatting at the weekend. Might get the flys in


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  • Registered Users Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Thursday 28/5/2015

    A) Good Morning (3010)
    (60s rest)
    47.5kg x 5 x 10


    B) Hamstring Curls (2020)
    (<75s rest)
    75kg x 4 x 12


    C1) Decline Sit Ups
    +18kg x 4 x 12

    C2) DB Flys
    10kg x 4 x 15


    D) Deadlift
    176kg x 4 x 3


    E) Yesterdays DLs (80%)
    156kg x 3 x 2



    A-C before work (grand). Got in yesterday's DB flys too. Thought it'd take longer so kept rests short and got it done in 30 mins. Pretty happy with that after a long evening yesterday and a wretched night's sleep.

    1st set of DLs was poor. 2nd was a touch better but that's not saying much. 3rd a little better again but last rep was sh*t and a battle to lockout. Last set much the same but 1st rep was too loose this time.

    I'd probably be more disappointed if the last 24 hours was as bad preparation to do 4x3 at 90% as you'll get. I think I might have done a triple at near 90% before but this was uncharted territory.

    Last minute I decided to do (some of) yesterday's DLs instead of RDLs. Just to try work on form but didn't get to do all 4.

    Chalked it down and move on.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Sunday 31/5/2015

    A) Squats
    105kg x 3 x 6
    105kg x 10


    B) Pause Squats (22X0)
    80kg x 5 x 8


    C) Front Squat (2010)
    67.5kg x 5 x 8


    D1) Split Squats
    67.5kg x 3 x 6/6

    D2) Tempo Squat (4010)
    57.5kg x 3 x 12



    Week 3 done. Pretty happy with the squat. Depth was fine and happy with getting 10 reps.

    Felt strong the whole way through. Used find the front squats harder even when I'd less leg work done before so things definitely moving in the right direction.

    Time against me so was gonna be 2 rounds of D's but was feeling hip flexor a little on rev lunges so dropped them to be on safe side and did 3 rounds of D1 and D2.

    After the first week, you're braced for the Apocalegs so you're ready for or the battle and it's less horrible. Maybe even...enjoyable. Maybe more so after the fact.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,359 ✭✭✭Pavel66


    Sunday 31/5/2015

    A) Squats
    105kg x 3 x 6
    105kg x 10


    B) Pause Squats (22X0)
    80kg x 5 x 8


    C) Front Squat (2010)
    67.5kg x 5 x 8


    D1) Split Squats
    67.5kg x 3 x 6/6

    D2) Tempo Squat (4010)
    57.5kg x 3 x 12

    That's more squatting in one day than I do in a month :eek:


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Pavel66 wrote: »
    That's more squatting in one day than I do in a month :eek:

    Blame Hanley's 6-week strength programme :)

    1st week of it was a shock to the system because all the squatting.

    You become mentally prepared for it but it's never not gruelling.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,762 ✭✭✭jive


    Blame Hanley's 6-week strength programme :)

    1st week of it was a shock to the system because all the squatting.

    You become mentally prepared for it but it's never not gruelling.

    Stop the lights I'm doing the same but just back squat followed by front squat (plus leg press, leg extensions and hamstring curls). Towards the end of the front squats I'm doing some huffing and puffing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Tuesday 2/6/2015

    Week 4

    A) Bench
    77.5kg x 3 x 5
    77.5kg x 6


    B) Paused Bench (2s pause)
    62.5kg x 2 x 8
    60kg x 3 x 8


    C1) Chin Ups (3010)
    BW x 3 x 6

    C2) Bent Over Rows (4010)
    60kg x 3 x 12

    C3) Front Plate Raise
    10kg x 3 x 25


    C) Close Grip Incline Bench (2010)
    45kg x 8
    40kg x 8
    42.5kg x 3 x 8



    Rep max at 77.5kg was 6 starting out today so happy to get that after 3x5. Reckon a 7th rep might have been there but left it in the tank. If it wasn't there, it'd have been close enough. Felt solid.

    Started too high in paused benching and my triceps died a fiery death. Missed last rep of last 2 sets.

    Dropped weight right off on close grip Incline. I hadn't done them before and it was at the end after all the front raising etc. (because no incline bench free to do them after paused bench)

    Triceps pronounced dead at the scene. R.I.P.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Wednesday 3/6/2015

    A1) DB Row (2010)
    32.5kg x 4 x 10 e/s

    A2) Seated DB OHP (2010)
    20kg x 4 x 8 e/s


    B1) Split Squats (3010)
    72.5kg x 4 x 10

    B2) Reverse Flys
    6kg x 4 x 15


    C1) Deadlift (2010)
    170kg x 4 x 1

    C2) Tempo Flys (3020)
    10kg x 4 x 10


    A's and B's before work. C's after.

    Never did seated OHPs without back of the bench up so had to brace a lot harder than I usually would on OHP.

    Had to do split squats on Smith machine though because no racks free at the time. Felt so awkward and took getting used to.

    Deadlifts felt really smooth. Bit more confident about tomorrow's DLs now. Liked those tempo flys-good TUT. Could've gone heavier but I think the form wouldn't have been as tight with 12.5s


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Thursday 4/6/2015

    A) Rack Pull - mid shin (3010)
    110kg x 8
    115kg x 2 x 8
    120kg x 2 x 8


    B) Seated Hamstring Curls (2020)
    (<75s rest)
    75kg x 4 x 12


    C1) Decline Sit Ups
    +18kg x 4 x 12


    D) Deadlift
    185kg x 2 x 2
    185kg x 2 x 1


    E) Deficit Deads (2")
    120kg x 4 x 6



    A-C before work. D, E after.

    Eased into rack pulls cos was a bit late getting in and 15 mins from bed to bar. Plan had been 120kg x 5 x 8 but what went down was okay.

    I've pulled 185kg+ 4 times in my life and all for singles so four doubles of 185 was daunting. And it mindfu*ked me. Overthinking everything and didn't commit myself to the set up and lost position even before the pull. Every time. Last was best of a bad lot because I'd written off the DLs at that stage.
    All my best DLs happen when I let them. Annoyed with myself.

    Should've been 1 more set of deficits but time.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Sunday 7/6/2015

    A) Squats
    111kg x 3 x 5
    111kg x 8


    B) 1.5 Squats
    77.5kg x 5 x 8


    C) Squats (2010)
    65kg x 3 x 15


    D1) Reverse Lunge
    70kg x 2 x 6/6

    D2) Split Squat (4010)
    60kg x 2 x 12

    D3) Tempo Squat (4010)
    40kg x 2 x 25



    3rd set of squats was all over the place. Allowed myself to be distracted by the lad passing by the rack swinging his belt around and hitting my leg mid-squat. Last set was the best - kept a lot tighter than I usually do. Left a rep in the tank. Happy enough.

    Never did 1.5 squats before. BRUTAL. Technique was a bit sketchy on 1st set but improved as I went on.

    Got delayed on the one day I might finally have completed all 3 rounds of D's that are programmed. But at least U left the gym feeling I'd put in some hard work


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Thursday 11/6/2015

    Tuesday should have been Week 5 Day 1 but was pretty sick from Sunday night, lost a couple of kilos in a couple of days and only had my first full meal yesterday. Not at 100% today but I just enjoy being in the gym so wandered in for a while to just do some mobility and some lighter versions of the programmed benching day.

    A) Paused Bench (2s pause)
    70kg x 5 x 5


    B) Bench
    60kg x 4 x 8


    C) Close Grip Incline Bench (2010)
    45kg x 4 x 8


    D1) Chin Ups (3010)
    BW x 3 x 6

    D2) Bent Over Rows (4010)
    60kg x 3 x 12

    D3) Front Plate Raise
    10kg x 3 x 25

    D4) EZ Bar Curls
    25kg x 3 x 15



    Dropped weight and cut number of sets by one on B and C. Really felt like I'd recovered more than I had but they felt heavy.

    Had it in my head I'd go in tomorrow but that'd be full retard. Will just do some mobility work tomorrow and Saturday and then kick off week 5 on Sunday, all being well, with ALL THE SQUATS.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,628 ✭✭✭Señor Fancy Pants


    I was wondering where you where, thought you gave up being awesome!

    You have the bug that's going around? You still seem fairly strong there anyway.

    What programme are you on now?


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    I was wondering where you where, thought you gave up being awesome!

    You have the bug that's going around? You still seem fairly strong there anyway.

    What programme are you on now?

    I never gave up being awesome. I just never started.

    It's the RevFit 6-week strength challenge. I thought I had a windows of 4-6 weeks to squeeze in some sort of program before herself went back to work, Littl'un in the creche and the squeeze that that would put on time during the week for a while.

    Then I remembered WHIP IT having done it so I went for it.

    Hard going but enjoying it. The leg day is unforgiving.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Sunday 14/6/2015

    W5D1

    A) Squats (90%)
    117.5kg x 3 x 3
    117.5kg x 6


    B) 1.5 Squats
    80kg x 5 x 8


    C) Squats (55%)
    72.5kg x 3 x 15


    D1) Reverse Lunge
    72.5kg x 2 x 6/6

    D2) Split Squat (3010)
    62.5kg x 2 x 12

    D3) Tempo Squat (3010)
    42.5kg x 2 x 25



    2nd squat set was a sloppy mess. 3rd better but didn't expect 6 on last set. After first 2 reps of last set it clicked and reps felt easier and went deeper. Set up was better and kept shape a bit better.

    1.5s were a bit better but only 2nd time ever doing them so needs work to stop me getting looser than I should in the middle part but they were fine. Tough though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Tuesday 16/6/2015

    W5D2

    A) Bench (90%)
    81kg x 3 x 3
    81kg x 3

    B) Paused Bench (2s pause)
    67.5kg x 5 x 6


    C) Close Grip Incline Bench
    50kg x 5 x 8


    D1) Chin Up (3010)
    Bw x 3 x 6

    D2) Bent Over Rows
    62.5kg x 3 x 12

    D3) Front Plate Raise
    10kg x 3 x 25



    Took too long to decide to go for 4th rep on last bench set that I lost the chance. Ok overall.

    TnG'd last rep on each of last 2 sets of CGBP. Was not looking forward to incline at that point...but they didn't feel as bad as I expected.

    Not really sure how I feel about the numbers overall...


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Thursday 18/6/2015

    Docklands 5K: 21:00

    Had a target of 21:30 going out and thought if I did get inside it, it'd be by no more than 10s.

    But I was slightly disappointed when I crossed the line. I went out quicker than I intended and it cost me a bit of pace over the last 1.5km. But then I realised If I'd gone out at 4:15/km for the first 2k like I intended, I probably wouldn't have run the last 3k quick enough to be quicker overall..

    So back to happy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Friday 19/6/2015

    W5D3

    A1) Pause Squat (2s pause @75%)
    97.5kg x 4 x 5

    A2) Reverse Flys
    6kg x 4 x 15

    B1) BB Row
    60kg x 4 x 10

    B2) Reverse Lunge
    67.5kg x 4 x 8/8


    C1) Deadlift (~90%)
    177.5kg x 4 x 1

    C2) DB Bench Press (3020)
    22kg x 4 x 10



    A's and B's before work. C after.

    Had to shoehorn the workout into today. Thought I'd struggle more on pause squats because they were a sizeable chunk heavier than I'd done before and was a bit leggy after the run. Felt fine.

    DLs were okay. I have a tendency to not commit to getting hips down to where they should be at higher %s at times so worked on that. Went alright. Singles at what is my 1RM on Sunday will be telling.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Sunday 21/6/2015

    After a night with little sleep, I considered not doing this session but I'd have to put it off until next weekend to give it enough time so gave it a shot...

    W5D4

    A) Deadlift
    195kg x 2 x F
    185kg x 1


    B) Deficit Deads (2")
    130kg x 5 x 6


    C) Seated Hamstring Curls (2020)
    75kg x 4 x 12


    D) Decline Sit Ups
    +18kg x 4 x 12



    Supposed to be 195 for 5 singles. Two fails in, I knew today wasn't gonna be the day for it. Had nothing to lock out the 2nd attempt so dropped to 185 but had fu*k all in the tank for more than a solitary single.

    Probably should have just gone home but I was pi**ed off and too stubborn.

    Dropped rack pulls because I started feeling a bit light headed. Probably a good thing I skipped 'em.

    Disappointed but I can't say it was unexpected today went down like that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,157 ✭✭✭COH


    Losing position straight off the mark on a lot of the heavier pulls lately chief.

    If you are going to round back pull then pull with a round back! Lots of people do, it is what is is, but do spend some time finding a position that allows your upper back to flex but keeps your lower back protected/flat. (aka tucking your lats into your front pocket as opposed to back pocket in the start position kinda thing).

    As it stands you try to keep your back flat, but cant hold the position above whatever %... then round from your mid back as a result and shoot your head up until your shins are vertical and the bar moves. By the time the bar has broken the ground a couple inches your hips and shoulders are almost in line.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    I've felt like that alright. Today was a disaster anyway but it's been a bit hit and miss lately and I didn't know quite why I felt it was falling between stools. Mindfu*king myself probably didn't help but that's pretty much nailed it.

    Appreciate that, chief. Thanks


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  • Registered Users Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Tuesday 23/6/2015

    W6D1

    A) Bench (95%)
    86kg x 2 x 2
    86kg x 3


    B) Paused Bench (2s pause - @85%)
    77.5kg x 3 x 3


    C) Close Grip Incline Bench
    52.5kg x 5 x 8


    D1) Chin Up (3010)
    +2.5kg x 3 x 6

    D2) Bent Over Rows
    62.5kg x 3 x 12

    D3) Front Plate Raise
    10kg x 3 x 25



    First 2 bench sets were fine but I thought 2 reps on 3rd set would be my limit. Except it was the best set. In hindsight I should have gone for a 4th rep - if I'd missed it, I don't think it would've been by much. 3rd rep certainly wasn't a grind anyway. Maybe having a good spotter helped, mentally, but form was solid anyway.

    Kept up the solid form on CGBP and haven't paused at that weight before so happy with how good it felt.

    Incline just felt good cos less volume before it than there has been the last few weeks. And cos it's light.

    Pretty happy after that. Not sure what will go up when I test bench but it just feels like form has been improving, slowly but surely, the last few months so if I can concentrate on getting the form right, I might improve the PR. We'll see.


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