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Saorview Connect

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,817 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    If it is the same as the Humax Freesat G2 boxes which use similar software then it will be an encrypted Linux partition that is not readable outside of the box it was created on.

    The broadcasters insist on this for copyright reasons.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 19,959 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    The encryption is generally only used for HD content.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,017 ✭✭✭tsue921i8wljb3


    The encryption is generally only used for HD content.

    Everything is encrypted on the Humax boxes.
    The hts files are encrypted, just like with the HDR. I haven't had a good look at them yet, but they won't play on a PC. This applies both to SD and HD recordings.

    https://www.burningimage.net/humaxusb/


  • Registered Users Posts: 131 ✭✭patsryan


    What is the format used on this?

    Ext4 is used but recordings / hdd are encrypted


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,042 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    If it is the same as the Humax Freesat G2 boxes which use similar software then it will be an encrypted Linux partition that is not readable outside of the box it was created on.

    I was about to query the partition encryption, but see from a later post that it is the files that are encrypted.
    patsryan wrote: »
    Ext4 is used but recordings / hdd are encrypted

    Thanks ..... ext4.
    BUG: Change the HDD formatting to a common format that can be recognised on a PC / Mac.

    There is nothing uncommon about ext4.
    If your OS cannot read ext then maybe get software to do it.
    Definitely not a bug in the box that they decided to use this filesystem format.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,534 ✭✭✭gaiscioch


    I'm currently with Virgin Media, and it's an extra €5 for the basic tv package. However, I really don't want to plough through 8 million awful tv channels to get the few I want. However, I have no aerial or satellite dish, nor do I want to put them hanging outside. Can I get Saorview without either of these two?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 597 ✭✭✭clfy39tzve8njq


    gaiscioch wrote:
    I'm currently with Virgin Media, and it's an extra €5 for the basic tv package. However, I really don't want to plough through 8 million awful tv channels to get the few I want. However, I have no aerial or satellite dish, nor do I want to put them hanging outside. Can I get Saorview without either of these two?


    You'll need an aerial for Saorview. You might get away with one in the attic if you're not far from a transmitter


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,817 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    You will need an aerial and satellite dish to receive both.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 399 ✭✭lsjmhar


    This recent update has given the box significant improvements. It is very useable now and could be recommended to anyone. My only issue is the TG4 player doesn't work for me. Is anyone else having this problem? I love a bit of 7lá.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,767 ✭✭✭AngryLips


    gaiscioch wrote: »
    I'm currently with Virgin Media, and it's an extra €5 for the basic tv package. However, I really don't want to plough through 8 million awful tv channels to get the few I want. However, I have no aerial or satellite dish, nor do I want to put them hanging outside. Can I get Saorview without either of these two?

    I have an indoor aerial and it works fine, but channels are limited. Think you need to be within 8-15km of a transmission point.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 859 ✭✭✭corm500


    Just did the update. For some reason the Saorview channels are now all over the place. rte1hd is channel 1 but Rte2hd is channel 257!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,817 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    I returned my box and got a full refund. Once recording is launched it may no longer be possible.


  • Registered Users Posts: 863 ✭✭✭peking97


    I returned my box and got a full refund. Once recording is launched it may no longer be possible.

    Just as a matter of interest how long did you have it before returning it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,817 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    peking97 wrote: »
    Just as a matter of interest how long did you have it before returning it?

    Over a year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 392 ✭✭Hibrasil


    I returned my box and got a full refund. Once recording is launched it may no longer be possible.

    And which retailer refunded you ? Very Important for integrity point of view!!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 131 ✭✭patsryan


    Anyone else notice the DXD7025 is no longer listed on the manufacturers website?

    https://www.ekt-digital.com/stb-devices/dxd7025

    Is new hardware inbound I wonder?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,817 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    Hibrasil wrote: »
    And which retailer refunded you ? Very Important for integrity point of view!!!

    I will pm you just in case it causes any issue for someone returning.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,534 ✭✭✭gaiscioch


    gaiscioch wrote: »
    I'm currently with Virgin Media, and it's an extra €5 for the basic tv package. However, I really don't want to plough through 8 million awful tv channels to get the few I want. However, I have no aerial or satellite dish, nor do I want to put them hanging outside. Can I get Saorview without either of these two?
    You'll need an aerial for Saorview. You might get away with one in the attic if you're not far from a transmitter
    You will need an aerial and satellite dish to receive both.

    OK. Thanks. I had hoped that in 2019 I could get a tv digital box of some form that would negate the need for an aerial or satellite. If I want to keep my Virgin Media broadband, is there any aerial or satellite-free alternative tv service to all Virgin's tv stations? (I'm at contract renewal time and Virgin want to charge €150 per year for 50 channels, 45 of which I would never watch but I would have to go through each time to get to the channels I want)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,728 ✭✭✭Former Former


    gaiscioch wrote: »
    OK. Thanks. I had hoped that in 2019 I could get a tv digital box of some form that would negate the need for an aerial or satellite. If I want to keep my Virgin Media broadband, is there any aerial or satellite-free alternative tv service to all Virgin's tv stations? (I'm at contract renewal time and Virgin want to charge €150 per year for 50 channels, 45 of which I would never watch but I would have to go through each time to get to the channels I want)

    If you're at contract renewal stage, ring up Virgin and tell them it's too expensive and you're leaving. See how long it takes for them to offer you a new discounted rate.

    If you're in a Virgin area, chances are you're close enough to a transmitter to pick up Saorview with an indoor aerial. If you want BBC and Channel 4 for free, satellite dish is the only option.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,817 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    In fairness €150 a year is very little especially if paid every month.

    There is no free way of receiving the English channels unless you get it illegally or overcome geoblocking restrictions.

    Even if you overcome the geoblocking restrictions you will only be able to stream with no recording capability.

    A satellite dish will give you all of the English channels and a freesat box will give you a full 7 day epg with recording capability. But it will cost a significant initial investment.

    Out of interest are you living along the east coast or along the border? If you are you may be able to pick up the English channels through the same saorview aerial. I doubt an indoor aerial would pick them up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,562 ✭✭✭Gerry Wicklow


    In fairness €150 a year is very little especially if paid every month.

    There is no free way of receiving the English channels unless you get it illegally or overcome geoblocking restrictions.

    Even if you overcome the geoblocking restrictions you will only be able to stream with no recording capability.

    A satellite dish will give you all of the English channels and a freesat box will give you a full 7 day epg with recording capability. But it will cost a significant initial investment.

    Out of interest are you living along the east coast or along the border? If you are you may be able to pick up the English channels through the same saorview aerial. I doubt an indoor aerial would pick them up.

    To clarify, this refers to online. It IS perfectly legal to watch these channels for free on satellite.


  • Registered Users Posts: 43 thatwilldopig


    Anyone else being using the latest beta.?

    Is it right that you can't record a satellite channel and watch another. Everytime I try to record a satellite channel the other channels go blank except for a few. So for example record BBC 1 can still watch BBC 2 but UTV out of action. Still very buggy as far as I can see.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,817 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    Have you 2 satellite cables attached? Did they enable the 2nd satellite input?


  • Registered Users Posts: 43 thatwilldopig


    Yep have 2 feeds and no idea if they enabled 2nd input. Presume the upgrade did that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,945 ✭✭✭JDxtra


    Yep have 2 feeds and no idea if they enabled 2nd input. Presume the upgrade did that.

    But are your two feeds one for sat and one for terrestrial? You won't be able to record one sat channel and watch another on a different transponder (which is why you can watch some channels only while recording).


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 399 ✭✭lsjmhar


    Is the TG4 playwriting for anyone on the box?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 399 ✭✭lsjmhar


    Is theTG4 player working for anyone?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3 grealmax


    lsjmhar wrote: »
    Is the TG4 playwriting for anyone on the box?

    No,I'm getting an error pop up all the time!


  • Registered Users Posts: 7 Alpha77


    Is timer recording available for the satellite side as only now and next are on EPG.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 399 ✭✭lsjmhar


    Alpha77 wrote:
    Is timer recording available for the satellite side as only now and next are on EPG.


    Yep. You have to set the time, day and date and it will repeat record. Fine for programmes that repeat at the same time. Not great for those that don't, e.g. Match of the Day!!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 399 ✭✭lsjmhar


    Cheers. Hopefully, the next update will fix it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7 Alpha77


    lsjmhar wrote: »
    Yep. You have to set the time, day and date and it will repeat record. Fine for programmes that repeat at the same time. Not great for those that don't, e.g. Match of the Day!!

    Thanks. How do you get into timer record? Is it somewhere in Settings or Guide?


  • Registered Users Posts: 43 thatwilldopig


    JDxtra wrote: »
    Yep have 2 feeds and no idea if they enabled 2nd input. Presume the upgrade did that.

    But are your two feeds one for sat and one for terrestrial? You won't be able to record one sat channel and watch another on a different transponder (which is why you can watch some channels only while recording).


    2 Satellite feeds 1 Saoriew feed...


  • Registered Users Posts: 43 thatwilldopig


    JDxtra wrote: »
    Yep have 2 feeds and no idea if they enabled 2nd input. Presume the upgrade did that.

    But are your two feeds one for sat and one for terrestrial? You won't be able to record one sat channel and watch another on a different transponder (which is why you can watch some channels only while recording).


    2 Satellite feeds 1 Saoriew feed... Plus if I start a recording on Saoriew all Satellite channels go???


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 399 ✭✭lsjmhar


    Alpha77 wrote:
    Thanks. How do you get into timer record? Is it somewhere in Settings or Guide?


    1. Click home button
    2. Select satellite
    3. Select recordings (you need an external hdd formatted to box)
    4. Select Planned
    5. Move to the right (Set recording arrow on right of screen) - this should open option to record in satellite section.


  • Registered Users Posts: 131 ✭✭patsryan


    2 Satellite feeds 1 Saoriew feed... Plus if I start a recording on Saoriew all Satellite channels go???

    I noticed this on the previous beta and had logged it as a bug. May bring it up with them again if I can reproduce


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,817 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    I notice the manufacturer has a lot of new android set top boxes. I think these are an interesting product as you can have all your android apps on the tv.

    Now tv, rte player, tg4 player, eir sports (possibly) could all be accessed off the 1 remote. Then things like security cameras and other content could also be accessed.

    I wonder will this platform become more standard as using a chromecast is a poor user experience with a phone being needed to operate it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    I notice the manufacturer has a lot of new android set top boxes. I think these are an interesting product as you can have all your android apps on the tv.

    Now tv, rte player, tg4 player, eir sports (possibly) could all be accessed off the 1 remote. Then things like security cameras and other content could also be accessed.

    I wonder will this platform become more standard as using a chromecast is a poor user experience with a phone being needed to operate it.

    I've not seen these boxes, can you link to one.

    It needs to be Android TV and not touchscreen Android OS. There's a massive difference in the experience. Android TV is designed from the ground up for use on a large screen with a D-pad remote. Android OS is designed for a touchscreen tablets and phones with clunky fingers.

    Several of the USA networks are starting to use Android TV for their set to boxes. It's only starting to become very popular, will be mainstream soon


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,817 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    Go back two pages and you will see the link to the Android tv certified boxes. None seem to have both s2 and t2 functionality though, just s2. 3 or 4 boxes there.

    Here is the link actually.
    https://www.ekt-digital.com/stb-devices


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 597 ✭✭✭clfy39tzve8njq


    I notice the manufacturer has a lot of new android set top boxes. I think these are an interesting product as you can have all your android apps on the tv.


    Any link to what they have. Thanks


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 597 ✭✭✭clfy39tzve8njq


    Sorry no phone the next page didn't show. Thanks for the link


  • Registered Users Posts: 7 Alpha77


    lsjmhar wrote: »
    1. Click home button
    2. Select satellite
    3. Select recordings (you need an external hdd formatted to box)
    4. Select Planned
    5. Move to the right (Set recording arrow on right of screen) - this should open option to record in satellite section.

    Thanks, I would never have found it there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 399 ✭✭lsjmhar


    Alpha77 wrote:
    Thanks, I would never have found it there.


    No problem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,286 ✭✭✭slinky2000


    Go back two pages and you will see the link to the Android tv certified boxes. None seem to have both s2 and t2 functionality though, just s2. 3 or 4 boxes there.

    Here is the link actually.
    https://www.ekt-digital.com/stb-devices

    Serious amount of boxes!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 597 ✭✭✭clfy39tzve8njq


    Very short on memory are they not ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    Very short on memory are they not ?

    Yes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,042 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    Very short on memory are they not ?

    Somewhat similar boxes work very well with 1GB or 2GB ram ...... not short on memory at all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    Somewhat similar boxes work very well with 1GB or 2GB ram ...... not short on memory at all.

    Specs are nothing special, equivalent to a Mibox S which is a very budget Android Tv box. I have one, it's only average, I use it on a 720p kitchen TV, it's definitely not a good enough experience for my main TV. It's sluggish with Kodi and STBemu which really need more than 2GB ram


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,042 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    Specs are nothing special, equivalent to a Mibox S which is a very budget Android Tv box. I have one, it's only average, I use it on a 720p kitchen TV, it's definitely not a good enough experience for my main TV. It's sluggish with Kodi and STBemu which really need more than 2GB ram

    I don't have a 4K need, but do use such quad core ARM boxes to view 1080 Live TV and stored media, without any problems using kodi with Tvheadend and also IPTV Simple plugins.

    Thankfully I see no sign of sluggishness like I did when I used R-Pi boards for the same purpose.
    Others use these devices for 4K quite successfully from what I have read.
    I have never used (or seen mention of) STBemu so no idea if that could be adversely affecting your experience.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    STBEmu and Perfect Player are the two most used apps for IPTV streams


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