Saorview Connect

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STB. wrote:

Linux. Enigma 2 boxes.

Can these boxes run IPTV ?

lsjmhar

Allan Itchy Hoagie wrote:

Can these boxes run IPTV ?

High end ones can have iptv plugins. The zgemma or vu+ would be able as you need a good processing to run everything. IIRC the mips chipset is required to run true enigma2 images. Broadcom chipset boxes are not great for running sat/fta/triple hd recording/iptv.

NewClareman

lsjmhar wrote: »

High end ones can have iptv plugins. The zgemma or vu+ would be able as you need a good processing to run everything. IIRC the mips chipset is required to run true enigma2 images. Broadcom chipset boxes are not great for running sat/fta/triple hd recording/iptv.

I have no experience of Androids set top boxes, but agree that Enigma2 is excellent for satellite and saorview in one list with 7 day epg. I have a thread over on the satellite forum, on this. You can get a combined EPG with channels divided into categories, like Sky/Freesat.

The TiviarAlpha+, which I currently use, has plenty of grunt for running multiple sat/fta channels. It also supports IPTV, but the Kodi plugin is so slow as to be unusable. Have you any experience using this with zgemma or vu+?

lsjmhar

NewClareman wrote:

The TiviarAlpha+, which I currently use, has plenty of grunt for running multiple sat/fta channels. It also supports IPTV, but the Kodi plugin is so slow as to be unusable. Have you any experience using this with zgemma or vu+?

I never bothered buying any of those as I waited for connect box. Looking at the vu+, I imagine that is a futureproof box. It can run all three - sat/fta, iptv and kodi - with good image support. However, they are steep price at €400. I bought two connect boxes for €160 and have a rpi running kodi for me. Hoping that they continue to improve connect box, maybe add Netflix app!!!!

STB.

lsjmhar wrote: »

High end ones can have iptv plugins. The zgemma or vu+ would be able as you need a good processing to run everything. IIRC the mips chipset is required to run true enigma2 images. Broadcom chipset boxes are not great for running sat/fta/triple hd recording/iptv.

Its no longer high end. Boxes costing 100stg are now running all three. The free availability of more powerful chips at more affordable prices have swamped the market over the last year. Octagon/Edision/Zgemma means you don't have to lash out what was three times the price.

The one mimicing E2 in between was using STi (SH4) chips . Then there was a move from MIPS to ARM. ARM has made it very affordable.

The box I currently use is ARM 64 bit architecture running off a Quad Core CPU @ 1.6MHGZ (15,000 DMIPS) with 1Gig of DDR4 RAM & 8GB eMMC flash. Needless to say it runs all three sat, terrestrial and IPTV no problem (4k too with H265). It cost 100stg.

PeterDuggan

STB. wrote: »

The box I currently use runs all three sat, terrestrial and IPTV no problem (4k too with H265). It cost 100stg.

What box is that and can you post a link to it please?

STB.

PeterDuggan wrote: »

What box is that and can you post a link to it please?

https://www.world-of-satellite.co.uk/octagon-sf8008


That DVB-T and DVBS-2 combo is 99STG.


If you want to record a satellite station and watch another satellite station at the same time you may wish to buy the 2 x DVB-S2 version and add a USB DVB-T stick (for Saorview). But for simple recording whilst away or simple Saorview and Satellite viewing use then the combo will be fine. Has native Kodi as well.

Gerry Wicklow

@STB any experience / feedback of the Zgemma H7S yet?

lsjmhar

STB. wrote:

If you want to record a satellite station and watch another satellite station at the same time you may wish to buy the 2 x DVB-S2 version and add a USB DVB-T stick (for Saorview). But for simple recording whilst away or simple Saorview and Satellite viewing use then the combo will be fine. Has native Kodi as well.

STB. wrote:

That DVB-T and DVBS-2 combo is 99STG.

Just saw on YouTube that the latest OpenATV image has a beta Netflix plugin for this box. That is fantastic. Definitely worth the money with this addition.

The high horse brigade

lsjmhar wrote: »

Just saw on YouTube that the latest OpenATV image has a beta Netflix plugin for this box. That is fantastic. Definitely worth the money with this addition.

Does it support widevine to get Netflix in HD?

STB.

Gerry Wicklow wrote: »

@STB any experience / feedback of the Zgemma H7S yet?

Nope. I have a view on Zgemma.

Cant say anything good bad or indifferent about the H7S though as I haven't had one to test.

On the Octagon though, excellent value for the cost. Had one a few months now and cannot fault it. Boot time is something else.

lsjmhar

The high horse brigade wrote:

Does it support widevine to get Netflix in HD?

No idea. You'd have to contact openatv devs to get that answered!!

The high horse brigade

lsjmhar wrote: »

No idea. You'd have to contact openatv devs to get that answered!!

I think the hardware needs to support it first. It may do. I certainly would have no interest in SD only Netflix on a 4k TV

JDxtra

Wouldn't have too much interest in getting Netflix on Enigma devices myself. Even the oldest TV in the house here has a Netflix app on it which works very well.

STB.

I don't think Widevine L1 is made available for any commercial boxes anyway.

TBH I wasn't aware that Netflix was running on it at all!

A few screen shots below of the OSD, Epg etc on the Octagon Sf8008 (I wont inbed them)

Alpha77

What's in the new update today 20.20?

sumach

TG4 app now working at last.

duridian

Other bugs besides the fix of TG4 player still seem to be there in 20.20 update.

One of the most annoying that I encounter is where the SV Connect box still keeps saying "you need to be connected to the internet to do this" (or words to that effect) when trying to access On Demand/players section in the menu.
This happens even though the network info section in the settings shows the box is connected to wifi with an "excellent" signal. (The router is definitely connected to the internet as other devices can access it via the same router at that time.)

Box rebooting 2 or 3 times when turned on from a cold start is still happening as well, which makes the startup even slower.

Haven't tested it with a satellite dish, but the satellite functionality in 20.19 was disastrous, so I'm not optimistic.

corm500

duridian wrote: »

Other bugs besides the fix of TG4 player still seem to be there in 20.20 update.

One of the most annoying that I encounter is where the SV Connect box still keeps saying "you need to be connected to the internet to do this" (or words to that effect) when trying to access On Demand/players section in the menu.
This happens even though the network info section in the settings shows the box is connected to wifi with an "excellent" signal. (The router is definitely connected to the internet as other devices can access it via the same router at that time.)

Yep, I get that wifi thing too. I go to settings, disable wifi, enable wifi and hey presto its fixed. Bit of a pain though.

lsjmhar

TG4 player is working fine but the RTE player is absolute ****. I have FTTH and I am watching a circle spinning on every player clip I try. How are they getting this so bad???

lsjmhar

This box is so frustrating. I tried to scan changed frequency for Quest HD to set up record for EFL highlights. The box knocked out all of my channels in sat and I have to reset them again. I have still not gotten access to Quest HE or Freesport HD. WTF!!!

STB.

lsjmhar wrote: »

This box is so frustrating. I tried to scan changed frequency for Quest HD to set up record for EFL highlights. The box knocked out all of my channels in sat and I have to reset them again. I have still not gotten access to Quest HE or Freesport HD. WTF!!!

I heard they are working on a firmware fix for that. Should be out in time for the Olympics.

sumach

The software update seems to have fixed the TG4 player and broken the RTE player, which is not not streaming!

degsie

Newbie alert! Since we lost the VM analogue channels the missus wants to get something in place for the kitchen. Looking at saorview connect as a possibility. We cannot get satellite due to large trees (it's been tried!) so only option is aerial (not even sure what type will work for us) and we already have decent broadband. So, how do I go about finding out the best options in terms of hardware etc. I see that the likes of DID have the boxes and aerial solutions, would these be good enough? Thanks.

STB.

@degsie

There's not a whole of channels on Saorview to justify the purchase of the Connect box.

If you have a recent FlatscreenTV (last 10 years) it'll have a Saorview (DVB-T) built in. Connect an aerial to it and scan the dvb-t channels.

Satellite. Whats the distance from the house to the trees. The would need to be on top of you to stop a satellite signal. Gp to dishpointer and stick your address in and zoom in - pick 28.2E on the right. It'll give you the direction for the dish and the min distances for obstacles. Remember a dish can be placed a few foot off the ground.

degsie

STB. wrote: »

@degsie


Satellite. Whats the distance from the house to the trees. The would need to be on top of you to stop a satellite signal.

Very close and to the south, several neighbours have tried and failed to get satellite. Very annoying!

degsie

STB. wrote: »

Gp to dishpointer and stick your address in and zoom in - pick 28.2E on the right. It'll give you the direction for the dish and the min distances for obstacles. Remember a dish can be placed a few foot off the ground.

This is the problem the trees are on a hill and VERY tall!

decor58

degsie wrote: »

This is the problem the trees are on a hill and VERY tall!

We had a problem with a tree as well, I put the dish on the chimney, fine since.

degsie

decor58 wrote: »

We had a problem with a tree as well, I put the dish on the chimney, fine since.

Was tried by an installer, no joy.

STB.

degsie wrote: »

This is the problem the trees are on a hill and VERY tall!

Wow. Do you get any sunshine in the back garden at all!

That must be a bigger problem. Some of the trees need to come down.

I don't know where that is, but your Saorview signal might not be any better if that is in a valley. You might need a very big aerial!

Assuming you have decent broadband, your options might be limited to the eir vision box or IPTV of some sort.

Mortelaro

degsie wrote: »

Newbie alert! Since we lost the VM analogue channels the missus wants to get something in place for the kitchen. Looking at saorview connect as a possibility. We cannot get satellite due to large trees (it's been tried!) so only option is aerial (not even sure what type will work for us) and we already have decent broadband. So, how do I go about finding out the best options in terms of hardware etc. I see that the likes of DID have the boxes and aerial solutions, would these be good enough? Thanks.

AS you have decent broadband, saorview channels are available to stream live
No need to cut down any trees

degsie

Mortelaro wrote: »

AS you have decent broadband, saorview channels are available to stream live
No need to cut down any trees

So are there specific set top boxes that I need to get for Saorview streaming?

Johnboy1951

Mortelaro wrote: »

AS you have decent broadband, saorview channels are available to stream live
No need to cut down any trees

Are there free and legal Saorview streams?

dulpit

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

Are there free and legal Saorview streams?

RTE player has RTE 1 (and plus 1), RTE 2 (and plus 1), RTE News Now & RTE Jr.
Virgin player has Virgin Media 1, 2 and 3.
TG4 player has TG4
Oireachtas also streams.

But probably not easy to use and some things will be blocked/etc.

g6fdyotp5nj2l7

Is there live tv on the rte player on the connect box ?

Mortelaro

Yes
You can obviously use a large tablet in the kitchen or a pc to a larger monitor and watch live channels on the rte player
An even better idea would be to use a sling box which is perfectly legal but of course you'd need a host house with good broadband also

http://www.slingbox.com/en-GB

The high horse brigade

The RTE player is the worst able piece of technology I've ever encountered. It's frustratingly bad. It is honestly never an alternative to always dependable terrestrial or satellite TV.

Johnkid

Hi,

I bought a PowerPoint saorview connect box for my mother, and replaced her satellite at the same time, as it was literally falling to bits, in an effort to get her to get rid of Sky.

The satellite install was easy, the sky box says it has full signal strength, and just one notch down on signal quality from both tuners.

So I hooked up the saorview box and for the first few days it was going great, and I had all the expected channels, but today, the reception from the Sats in patchy, it says it has no signal, it freezes, crashes etc. It comes back intermittently though.

I called the tech support number (*1850 37 29 99‬), who were useless, and said it was the Satellite set up. (Mainly cos I’m not an approved installer - so of course it’s just my installation). But the sky box still works fine. No drop in signal.

So I suppose my question is... Even though it’s all from the same Astra2 satellite can the Sky signal just be stronger than the Freeview? (Seems unlikely you me).

And has anyone else had this problem?

The high horse brigade

Johnkid wrote: »

Hi,

I bought a PowerPoint saorview connect box for my mother, and replaced her satellite at the same time, as it was literally falling to bits, in an effort to get her to get rid of Sky.

The satellite install was easy, the sky box says it has full signal strength, and just one notch down on signal quality from both tuners.

So I hooked up the saorview box and for the first few days it was going great, and I had all the expected channels, but today, the reception from the Sats in patchy, it says it has no signal, it freezes, crashes etc. It comes back intermittently though.

I called the tech support number (*1850 37 29 99‬), who were useless, and said it was the Satellite set up. (Mainly cos I’m not an approved installer - so of course it’s just my installation). But the sky box still works fine. No drop in signal.

So I suppose my question is... Even though it’s all from the same Astra2 satellite can the Sky signal just be stronger than the Freeview? (Seems unlikely you me).

And has anyone else had this problem?

It's a cluster of satellites, the signals come from 100+ transponders with different frequencies and polarities. The new sky ones have a much higher signal. You need to get your dish properly aligned

Johnkid

The high horse brigade wrote: »

It's a cluster of satellites, the signals come from 100+ transponders with different frequencies and polarities. The new sky ones have a much higher signal. You need to get your dish properly aligned

Hi, thanks for your quick reply. I’m aware it’s multiple satellites, I wasn’t aware that the sky signal was much stronger. I’ll have another look at the satellite but I’m not convinced it’s the problem.

(I should explain that I’m a geophysicist, and I’m not inexperienced when it comes to setting up satellites.) But this saorview connect box is giving me the sh*t’s!

The high horse brigade

Johnkid wrote: »

Hi, thanks for your quick reply. I’m aware it’s multiple satellites, I wasn’t aware that the sky signal was much stronger. I’ll have another look at the satellite but I’m not convinced it’s the problem.

(I should explain that I’m a geophysicist, and I’m not inexperienced when it comes to setting up satellites.) But this saorview connect box is giving me the sh*t’s!

Yes the UK sky channels are now a spot beam to cut off signal to lower Europe Spain etc. Someone with better knowledge than me might explain in more detail

tsue921i8wljb3

Johnkid wrote: »

Hi, thanks for your quick reply. I’m aware it’s multiple satellites, I wasn’t aware that the sky signal was much stronger. I’ll have another look at the satellite but I’m not convinced it’s the problem.

(I should explain that I’m a geophysicist, and I’m not inexperienced when it comes to setting up satellites.) But this saorview connect box is giving me the sh*t’s!

If BBC One HD, for example, is fine on the Sky box but breaking up on the Connect box it would suggest that the dish is unlikely to be at fault.

Johnkid

Lincoln Important Syllable wrote: »

If BBC One HD, for example, is fine on the Sky box but breaking up on the Connect box it would suggest that the dish is unlikely to be at fault.

Hi Navi,

Yeah all the channels which are in common between Sky and Freesat, are fine from the sky box, but patchy from the saorview connect.

tsue921i8wljb3

Johnkid wrote: »

Hi Navi,

Yeah all the channels which are in common between Sky and Freesat, are fine from the sky box, but patchy from the saorview connect.

It could be possible that the tuner in the Sky box is better than the one in the Connect box so if the signal was marginal, due to poor alignment, it could be OK on the Sky box and breaking up on the other. There should be a signal meter in the Sky box. What does it say for various channels? Does the Connect box have a signal meter?

Also check the cable connections for the Connect box both at LNB and box.

Johnkid

Lincoln Important Syllable wrote: »

It could be possible that the tuner in the Sky box is better than the one in the Connect box so if the signal was marginal, due to poor alignment, it could be OK on the Sky box and breaking up on the other. There should be a signal meter in the Sky box. What does it say for various channels? Does the Connect box have a signal meter?

Also check the cable connections for the Connect box both at LNB and box.

According to the Sky box I have full Signal Strength, and just slightly less than full signal quality, the connect box doesn’t give you any indication of signal - other than when it’s says ‘ No signal’

I replaced all the coax and F connectors etc when installing the satellite, measured the resistance along the cable once the joins were in, (it preformed pretty good, and will be fine for sat cable). It’s defiantly making a connection to the LNB

I might go get a cheap and nasty Freesat box and see how it does before I go throw this saorview connect box through the window of Harvey Norman.

tsue921i8wljb3

Johnkid wrote: »

According to the Sky box I have full Signal Strength, and just slightly less than full signal quality, the connect box doesn’t give you any indication of signal - other than when it’s says ‘ No signal’

I replaced all the coax and F connectors etc when installing the satellite, measured the resistance along the cable once the joins were in, (it preformed pretty good, and will be fine for sat cable). It’s defiantly making a connection to the LNB

I might go get a cheap and nasty Freesat box and see how it does before I go throw this saorview connect box through the window of Harvey Norman.

Have you tried connecting the Sky box to the satellite cable currently connected to the Connect box then checking signal levels and reception? That should rule out any connection or LNB port issues.

Johnkid

Lincoln Important Syllable wrote: »

Have you tried connecting the Sky box to the satellite cable currently connected to the Connect box then checking signal levels and reception? That should rule out any connection or LNB port issues.

Yup, I sure have, and the sky box works perfectly and the saorview has issues.

I’ve even tried multiple old sky boxes that have been in the attic for like +10 years and they all work fine.

tsue921i8wljb3

Johnkid wrote: »

Yup, I sure have, and the sky box works perfectly and the saorview has issues.

I’ve even tried multiple old sky boxes that have been in the attic for like +10 years and they all work fine.

Sounds like you may have a faulty Connect box then. The Freesat box would be a better option in my opinion but it's unfortunate that it will cost you more money.

Shomar Ltd.

Hi Johnkid. Shomar Ltd supply the Saorview Connect product. They will make good the proplem you are having by testing and replacing the box directly if nessessary. We can help if you make conatct with us, details are in the quick start guide or online.

STB.

@ Johnkid


Your mother didn't have SkyQ by any chance ? If she did, its a different LNB and wont work with Freesat/FTA Satellite unless its a hybrid LNB.


If not, Have you confirmed that the channels on the sky box is actually displaying picture (and not just signal bars). 19.2E has common transponder frequencies.


BBC/Ch4/Ch5 despite being on a narrow beam, boom in. There is no difference between the Sky encrypted Variations and the free to air equivalents on 28.2E