TV3/RTE CL coverage

blueser

I wonder what odds you'd get on neither RTE or TV3 showing United or Celtic in any given week during the group stages?

Fenix

Imagine showing the games of the two biggest Irish fan bases. For Shame.

Paul Tergat

Whats your point? That they shouldnt appeal to their biggest target markets?

blueser

My point is that there are 30 other teams competing in the competition. I don't have Sky and I'd have liked to have seen the Napoli/Dortmund game (on paper a far more attractive game than the Celtic game).

Neil3030

Person complaining on Internet about not having access to football match... strange....

SureYWouldntYa

more viewers for those 2. its as simple as that. the way it will be for most of the cl season

Mars Bar

blueser wrote: »

My point is that there are 30 other teams competing in the competition. I don't have Sky and I'd have liked to have seen the Napoli/Dortmund game (on paper a far more attractive game than the Celtic game).

But you'd be one of a minority and RTE and TV3 won't care for a drop in ratings.
RTE and TV3 will have done their market research and will target their audience. Sure they'd only have to stumble in to this forum to see where the interest lies.

kksaints

blueser wrote: »

My point is that there are 30 other teams competing in the competition. I don't have Sky and I'd have liked to have seen the Napoli/Dortmund game (on paper a far more attractive game than the Celtic game).

Yeah but hundreds more would have wanted to watch the Celtic match. Basic decision to choose the match that will get the highest ratings and tonight it was the Celtic match.

RoryMac

blueser wrote: »

My point is that there are 30 other teams competing in the competition. I don't have Sky and I'd have liked to have seen the Napoli/Dortmund game (on paper a far more attractive game than the Celtic game).

Maybe you should look into getting Sky if you're so passionate it?

blueser

Neil3030 wrote: »

Person complaining on Internet about not having access to football match... strange....

Person paying TV licence complaining about Irish TV coverage...not strange....

blueser

RoryMac wrote: »

Maybe you should look into getting Sky if you're so passionate it?

I shouldn't have to though, surely? I fully understand the TV companies pandering to the ratings figures, but can't RTE try to cater for alternative tastes?

SantryRed

blueser wrote: »

I shouldn't have to though, surely? I fully understand the TV companies pandering to the ratings figures, but can't RTE try to cater for alternative tastes?

And cost the country more money in the process?

Stupid idea.

Dempsey

I'll win the lotto before either could show Celtic in their proper lineup

blueser

SantryRed wrote: »

And cost the country more money in the process?

Stupid idea.

If you say so.

SantryRed

blueser wrote: »

If you say so.

Well it is stupid. It would cost them a fortune to show a game which isn't for the majority of people.

Vincent Vega

Depressed enough watching Ireland play, I turn to CL to be entertained, remind myself of the joys of watching top quality football.
See they're showing Celtic. goodnight.

Dempsey

Vincent Vega wrote: »

Depressed enough watching Ireland play, I turn to CL to be entertained, remind myself of the joys of watching top quality football.
See they're showing Celtic. goodnight.

A first world problem if there ever was one!

Vincent Vega

I know
All that wasted bandwidth to stream matches with Ukrainian commentary to get my jollys.
No complaints about Utd though. I'm by no means a fan, but at least they're a good watch.

Dempsey

Vincent Vega wrote: »

I know
All that wasted bandwidth to stream matches with Ukrainian commentary to get my jollys.
No complaints about Utd though. I'm by no means a fan, but at least they're a good watch.

If you had an internet connection able to stream, you shouldnt have need Ukrainian commentary for any match!

I didnt find the United match riveting by any stretch of the imagination. Leverkusen were surprisingly poor moreso than United were that good

Kerrydude1981

Old Bill after saying RTE's next live game is City V Bayern

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Ah, I always remember in the pre-streaming era watching the draw and hoping to dear Jesus we got a draw that put us playing on different days to Man U. Didn't care who who would up just... not playing on the same day...

Fenix wrote: »

Imagine showing the games of the two biggest Irish fan bases. For Shame.

Paul Tergat wrote: »

Whats your point? That they shouldnt appeal to their biggest target markets?

While they might be the biggest fan bases, they are not the only fan bases. fans of ther teams pay their license fees too amd have just as much a right to watch their team as United do.

blueser

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Ah, I always remember in the pre-streaming era watching the draw and hoping to dear Jesus we got a draw that put us playing on different days to Man U. Didn't care who who would up just... not playing on the same day...





While they might be the biggest fan bases, they are not the only fan bases. fans of ther teams pay their license fees too amd have just as much a right to watch their team as United do.

I wouldn't bother if I were you; I tried making that point earlier and just got shouted down for it

losthorizon

Vincent Vega wrote: »

Depressed enough watching Ireland play, I turn to CL to be entertained, remind myself of the joys of watching top quality football.
See they're showing Celtic. goodnight.

Dempsey wrote: »

A first world problem if there ever was one!

You know I do care about the world, Syria, the environment and the way we treat our fellow man but to say that on the football forum is crazy. This is a place to discuss football. Surely they should show what they think will be the best match. Its particularly mad when two free to air channels are showing the same game as has happened many a time. Milan v Celtic tonight was dire.

MonkstownHoop

blueser wrote: »

I wouldn't bother if I were you; I tried making that point earlier and just got shouted down for it

Letter as such to RTE/TV3

I am an Irish citizen and pay my TV license like the next man, i should get to watch my english team play in the champions league too

:pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac:

Dempsey

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

While they might be the biggest fan bases, they are not the only fan bases. fans of ther teams pay their license fees too amd have just as much a right to watch their team as United do.

LOL, no they dont. What law covers that 'right'? :rolleyes:

blueser

MonkstownHoop wrote: »

Letter as such to RTE/TV3

I am an Irish citizen and pay my TV license like the next man, i should get to watch my english team play in the champions league too

:pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac:

Will they take any notice of it?

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Dempsey wrote: »

LOL, no they dont. What law covers that 'right'? :rolleyes:

I beleive it's called the Broadcast Tax law. or soemthing similar.

Kerrydude1981

Whatever about RTE

Do TV3 have to show the same game as ITV??

Isn't there a link between the two TV stations,I think ITV have shares in TV3

Dempsey

losthorizon wrote: »

You know I do care about the world, Syria, the environment and the way we treat our fellow man but to say that on the football forum is crazy. This is a place to discuss football. Surely they should show what they think will be the best match. Its particularly mad when two free to air channels are showing the same game as has happened many a time. Milan v Celtic tonight was dire.

You poor thing! You could have watched another game or something else completely. Plenty of poor games in the UCL in general.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

I beleive it's called the Broadcast Tax law. or soemthing similar.

You dont sound sure at all, maybe even quote the provision in the law that covers this magical right you think that exists!

Vincent Vega

Dempsey wrote: »

If you had an internet connection able to stream, you shouldnt have need Ukrainian commentary for any match!

To be fair, I wanted to watch the Napoli game. They'd never be shown on either channel, unless they were playing the likes of the aforementioned.;)
'Twould have been nice to have an alternative on the telly though.

Dempsey wrote: »

You poor thing! You could have watched another game or something else completely. Plenty of poor games in the UCL in general.

Agree with you on that. I think the Europa league produces more enjoyable and competitive games overall.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Dempsey wrote: »

You poor thing! You could have watched another game or something else completely. Plenty of poor games in the UCL in general.



You dont sound sure at all, maybe even quote the provision in the law that covers this magical right you think that exists!

As you wish - The Broacast Act 2009:

The Authority and the statutory committees, in performing their functions, shall endeavour to ensure—

(a) that the number and categories of broadcasting services made available in the State by virtue of this Act best serve the needs of the people of the island of Ireland, bearing in mind their languages and traditions and their religious, ethical and cultural diversity,

"The Authority" being the Broadcast Authority of Ireland, to which RTE is answerable.

Furthermore, RTE's own charter states it commits to:

sports programming that reflects the demands for national, regional, minority, amateur and local sports in Ireland today

http://www.rte.ie/documents/about/public-service-broadcasting-charter.pdf

In any case, if should be pretty much self-evident that any state broadcaser that gets state money cover for all aspects of society and not just the most popular. This applies to all broadcasting content, not just sport.

Dempsey

The Authority and the statutory committees, in performing their functions, shall endeavour to ensure—

(a) that the number and categories of broadcasting services made available in the State by virtue of this Act best serve the needs of the people of the island of Ireland, bearing in mind their languages and traditions and their religious, ethical and cultural diversity,

Take them to court so since that is so specific in its wording! Showing the Celtic game covers that Act if you havent noticed.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Dempsey wrote: »

Take them to court so since that is so specific in its wording! Showing the Celtic game covers that Act if you havent noticed.

I'm in Germany and have internet, cheers. No problem who they show whenever - but you asked me to point out where fans of other teams had an equal right to watch their teams based on paying their licence fee/broadcast charge and I did so. If RTE wanted to live up to their own standards (and those set down in law) they should be showing different teams and that's been proven.

But I'd be annoyed if I did pay said fee and wasn't being catered for, but that's not specific to sport.

Dempsey

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

I'm in Germany and have internet, cheers. No problem who they show tomrorow or whenever - but you asked me to point out where fans of other teams had an equal right to watch their teams based on paying their licence fee/broadcast charge and I did so.

But I'd be annoyed if I did pay said fee and wasn't being catered for, but that's not specific to sport.

That is a broad act that can be abused as they see fit. Showing a UCL match involving ManU/ManC/Chelsea/Arsenal etc is covered by the act just as much as the match tonight. To cite it tonight because of a poor match or a club you dont like is absolutely laughable tbh.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Dempsey wrote: »

That is a broad act that can be abused as they see fit. Showing a UCL match involving ManU/ManC/Chelsea/Arsenal etc is covered by the act just as much as the match tonight. To cite it tonight because of a poor match or a club you dont like is absolutely laughable tbh.

It would be if I did it, but I didn't, so the strawman is hereby burnt down. Also, it wasn't cited for the reasons you suggest, it was cited because you requested me to, remember?

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

While they might be the biggest fan bases, they are not the only fan bases. fans of ther teams pay their license fees too amd have just as much a right to watch their team as United do.

No mention of any specific match and no mentino of feeligns towards a particular team.

Dempsey

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

It would be if I did it, but I didn't, so the strawman is hereby burnt down. Also, it wasn't cited for the reasons you suggest, it was cited because you requested me to, remember?



No mention of any specific match and no mentino of feeligns towards a particular team.

Maybe you should look at the context the thread was created? :rolleyes:

You werent specific but chose the moment a thread about United & Celtic to have a moan?

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Dempsey wrote: »

Maybe you should look at the context the thread was created? :rolleyes:

You werent specific but chose the moment a thread about United & Celtic to have a moan?

Are you sure you're debating this with the right person...? I'm not the OP.

Dempsey

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Are you sure you're debating this with the right person...? I'm not the OP.

This thread is in the soccer forum, created about 2 teams. You come along about rights and how other teams show have these rights. That was the jist of your posts, not the OPs.

Smithwicks Man

I thought this was going to be a rant about how bad the actual coverage is of the games and I was ready to jump in! Shocking commentary and punditry, put me off watching the game tonight as their bias and lack of knowledge was so bad (Sky are bad too but in a different way) and I actually had to get up and go into the other room to watch Sky's coverage.

Corholio

Ballack on Sky's Champions League highlights show now.

I never realised how amazingly spot on Apres Match's impression of him was.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Dempsey wrote: »

This thread is in the soccer forum, created about 2 teams. You come along about rights and how other teams show have these rights. That was the jist of your posts, not the OPs.

Now that's far mroe accurate than your last two posts.
Not "should have" but "have" - they'er just not being adhered to by RTE. Other than that, correct - are you going to debate this?

Dempsey

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Now that's far mroe accurate than your last two posts.
Not "should have" but "have" - they'er just not being adhered to by RTE. Other than that, correct - are you going to debate this?

Pedantic ftw? Goodnight :rolleyes:

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Now that's far mroe accurate than your last two posts.
Not "should have" but "have" - they'er just not being adhered to by RTE. Other than that, correct - are you going to debate this?

Dempsey wrote: »

Pedantic ftw? Goodnight :rolleyes:

I didn't think so - sweet dreams

lertsnim

Kerrydude1981 wrote: »

Whatever about RTE

Do TV3 have to show the same game as ITV??

Isn't there a link between the two TV stations,I think ITV have shares in TV3

ITV haven't owned shares in TV3 for a long time. TV3 still buy a lot of the ITV rubbish though

losthorizon

Dempsey wrote: »

You poor thing! You could have watched another game or something else completely. Plenty of poor games in the UCL in general.

Dont have Sky and never intend getting it.

Dempsey

losthorizon wrote: »

Dont have Sky and never intend getting it.

I can get any match on my phone

Lawrence1895

They don't show many Liverpool matches these days, do they...wait a second...

:rolleyes: