Breaking Bad Episode 15: Granite State

shrewdness

iMuse wrote: »

Cranston robbed at the emmys, he will win it next year for sure though, he was unbelievable in that episode

Its amazing too that he still hasn't been awarded a Golden Globe, nor Breaking Bad at all for that matter. If he doesn't win it next year it's a joke.

FouxDaFaFa

iMuse wrote: »

Jeff Daniels for the newsroom

God, seriously?

iMuse

The ricin must be for grey matter, can't see who else he will use it on at this stage , there's so much to tie up in one episode though, I don't think they will have enough time to sort everything

ballsymchugh

bryan cranston has already won 3 in a row for Breaking Bad

aaron paul didn't get an emmy either.

he deserved it just for that episode when he had dinner with walt and skyler. the look he gave when he was drinking the glass of water was hilarious.

toodleytoo

Walt junior at the emmys.

Flipz4Rollz

Just googled Lydia(Laura Fraser) and found out she was Perry's bird in "Kevin and perry go large"...Strrrrrange

Reiketsu

That episode sucked the life outta me, so depressing. Sets things up for the finale nicely though.

glenjamin

Perhaps the ricin is for Walt as a way to kill himself and maybe even frame someone in the process.

Fantastic TV, more Emmys next year one has to assume.

Hank Scorpio

So there's one episode left? That was good but slightly depressing

nuxxx

nuxxx wrote: »

So there's one episode left? That was good but slightly depressing

Slightly?

Hank Scorpio

Deleted User wrote: »

Slightly?

Being in a constant depressive mode does that to ya :pac: 5am and im still posting. Anyway you're right

Turpentine

Didn't know Jesse was at least 96% pure at the lock picking as well. A man of many talents.

Poor old Walter, his main mistake in this episode is having raised a moral and noble son.

In fact it could be argued that his main downfall has been Walt Jr. finding out.

Had Walt Jr been still in the dark Walt would probably been able to weasle his way out of everything. Even in the last episode in the family showdown scene, with that shot that was framed as though Skylar had the choice between a phone and a knife, she chose a knife to threaten Walt to leave rather than turn him in to the police. Walt Jr. was straight on the blower.

Seems like Walter can resign himself to his family hating him, but he won't be written out of history. That used to be an old Roman punishment, can't for the life of me remember the name of it now, but it involved the wrongdoer being stricken from public records so as not to infect the reputation of the town.

Todd's been as charming as always.

nbar12

just finished watching that episode there, sickened there's only one episode left, I refuse to believe it #nothingpersonal

jaykhunter

Hmm. After so many life-shattering, heavy-hitting episodes, I was underwhelmed by this one. Maybe it's being devastated after last week's, but the story was quite slow settling into Walt's new life. Walt still has to make his play for Jack's gang and the Jesse story will have to intertwine. This ep did bring up a great point though, how can he legitimately get the money to his family? They can't just suddenly have millions, and even with a legitimate front & many car washes they couldn't hope to launder that much. Anyway, here's hoping for a bloodbath and Breaking Bad to go out in a blaze of glory leaving us (happily) emotionally devastated.

Full theme song played at the end of the episode :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMt1ILTzCac

lahalane

My God, I have never felt so bad for a character as much as I felt for Jesse there. Finally hitting home with me that this time next week it'll be finished and it genuinely saddens me. What a show. Can't go back to sleep now so may as well watch it again.

johnpatrick81

Like one review said, it was a much needed pause before the last episode. A chance to catch breath.

But even still, the scene with the balaclavas and the one with Andrea were every bit as chilling as last week.

Kinda want Walt to take Grey Matter down, something entirely not likeable about those 2:D

Can Jesse please get a ****ing break in the last episode? Give him Brock at least Vince!!!! He sure is one stupid bitch for not making a better escape though:mad:

Is it me or did Todd pick one of Lydia's hairs off the back of her jacket as they sat?:D Such a great creep.

Thank feck I am off next Monday. Probably spend the day crying.

April O Neill

I mean this in the nicest possible way - who gives a SHÍTE about awards?

I never put any stock in them, so many of them are bought anyway, and we can all, I'm sure, think of really undeserving recipients of these awards.

We know BB is great, we know Bryan Cranston is a fantastic actor. Why do we need some back-slapping ceremony to confirm what we already know?

April O Neill

toodleytoo wrote: »

Walt junior at the emmys.

Lookin' good.

lahalane

Lydia - '92%? That's Heisenberg territory.' **** you Lydia. You know so little. Also, talking back to back is way more conspicuous you dopey dope. I hope you are dead next week and I hope Todd does it...and maybe has sex with your dead corpse

fitz

lahalane wrote: »

Lydia - '92%? That's Heisenberg territory.' **** you Lydia. You know so little. Also, talking back to back is way more conspicuous you dopey dope. I hope you are dead next week and I hope Todd does it...and maybe has sex with your dead corpse

beks101

gosplan wrote: »

The simplest conclusion is the most likely.

That's literally never been Breaking Bad's style to date though.

I have a sneaky suspicion that Walt Jr is being grossly underestimated in all of this. I feel with everything that he's found out and everything he's been exposed to of his Dad in the last few episodes, he'd be more than capable of taking him down if given the chance.

I'd like to think that Jesse would finally catch a break and come out on top against the Nazi crowd and the newly energized Heisenberg, but that'd be too neat, satisfying and formulaic an ending for BB; it's going to be messy, uncomfortable and infuriating for the audience.

lahalane

fitz wrote: »

Just seems like something Todd is capable of...and I still wouldn't dislike him? Am I actually ****ed up in the head? Think I should go to bed.

Torqay

Turpentine wrote: »

Todd's been as charming as always.

Will he charm his way into Lydia's woodchipper?

kmart6

Serious episode, they have really set it up for next week. They really should have made it a 3 hour finale just to give us one last hurrah!

Basq

Watched it before work this morning - definitely the calm before the storm!

Lads, I've had to delete probably 10 - 12 posts with links to live streams..

.. I know ye are all excited to watch it, but this sort of stuff is not on!

Have warned a number of users and you're lucky I didn't take out the banhammer for the finale!

No more of this next week please - you have been warned!

mrkite77

iMuse wrote: »

Grey matter coming back into it was unexpected, will he go after them or Jack & co is the question?

I think we just found the recipients of the Ricin Cocktail Award.

bellinter

Well I thought that was savage.

Robert Forster was brilliant in it. Great line to Walt about whether he'd pass on the cash to his family.

Todd was at his creepy, creepy best in that meeting with Lydia, taking the hair from her back! And as polite as always when killing Andrea. Jesse just can't catch a break. It will be a happy realease when Walt kills him next week. I can see him just firing the gun into Jesse's cage as the show ends next week, never revealing if he killed him or not... but I guess that would go against what they have always said about there being no ambiguity about the end.

The shot of the whiskey glass on the bar at the end, complete with opening credits music, was brilliantly done. Grey Matter dissing him could mean the ricin ends up being for them? It was a relatively "slow" episode and all the better for it, given whats come before and what is likely to happen next week. I can't wait.

Full-haired, bearded Walter White is a Walter White I am fully behind!

acquiescefc

i think its gonna be simple enough from now on. I reckon Jesse will get a happy ending with Brock.
Walt dies in a hail of bullets/ricin surprise.
Gray Matter get either of the above.
The money is hidden and never found.

Cant believe Lydia was in Kevin and Perry. Thats the big shock.

batistuta9

how long would people say passed in that episode?

will the next episode just start with walt buying a car & heading back

acquiescefc

batistuta9 wrote: »

how long would people say passed in that episode?

will the next episode just start with walt buying a car & heading back

Wasnt the guy making his second trip to the cabin, so 2 months?

But yeah id say it starts in the Dennys.

Essien

Was it not supposed to be longer than that? I was a bit disappointed when I saw the running time on netflix.

willmunny1990

Essien wrote: »

Was it not supposed to be longer than that? I was a bit disappointed when I saw the running time on netflix.

Probably down to the fact you have no ads on netflix.

batistuta9

how long is it on netflix?
53:05 is the one i have, cuts off at the vince gilligan screen though

Essien

willmunny1990 wrote: »

Probably down to the fact you have no ads on netflix.

Obv. But people were talking about 70 min running time for the last 2. It's not much to write home about if it's only barely 25% longer. There's heaps left to cover, they could easily have got 1 or 2 feature length episodes.

batistuta9

acquiescefc wrote: »

Wasnt the guy making his second trip to the cabin, so 2 months?

But yeah id say it starts in the Dennys.

yeah that's what i got from it, he said he forgot something on his last trip there so at least 2 months

Table Top Joe

Very disappointed with the running time too, I knew it wouldn't be the full 75 minutes because of ads but its only about 5 minutes longer than normal.....moan out of the way another crackin episode, I just hope its not an "oh ffs" ending like The Sopranos but I don't think Vince would do that to us

dark crystal

Well I loved that episode.

Todd and his Manson family neo Nazi thug cohorts need to die soon. Seriously, shooting Andrea like that was psychotic in the extreme. Poor Brock! Poor Jesse! The scene in the White nursery was equally chilling. Jesus, Gus was a gentleman compared to these bastards.

The Walter White story arc was amazingly played by Cranston (and a great cameo by Robert Forster too). Lonely, sick and powerless, now even Saul isn't intimidated by him any more. I thought he would read the news report about Andrea's death, hear about the blue meth and put two and two together at the end, but no, it was his former best pals at Gray Matter dissing his reputation that finally sent him back into Heisenberg mode.

Amazing penultimate episode from an amazing final season. I'm bereft at the thought of this show ending next week.

hynesie08

So after absolutely hating last weeks episode, they completely won me back. The finale is now 90% set up for me and I actually cannot wait to see how it goes.

ricero

cant wait for walter white to open a can of whoop ass next week

Kilkenny14

Great ending with the music - next week will be epic.

Also, loved how the writers managed to insert some levity into the episode with mention of 2 copies Mr. Magorium’s Wonder Emporium DVD

FloatingVoter

I can see the Nazis getting wiped out (maybe by the Feds) but due to an oversight Jesse is left to starve to death alone in his cage. Maybe the final shot of the series.
Walt is certainly coming for Grey Matter. 'bout time too.

begod

Bit of an emphasis on Lydia using Stevia, product placement or a hint on who the ricin is for?

Rosy Posy

begod wrote: »

Bit of an emphasis on Lydia using Stevia, product placement or a hint on who the ricin is for?

She always uses Stevia- its her thing. I liked that Todd has started drinking tea for her. The hair picking thing gave me the absolute creeps. I actually thought that scene was quite humerus, in that she was talking and gesturing with her hands and he was turning around in his seat- way more suspect than if they'd just sat down together. So Lydia's putting the pressure on to have Skyler topped- ruthless.

I felt very sorry for Skyler and Walt Jnr, hearing about their circumstances second hand and seeing how Jnr has been effected. It looks like there hasn't been a reconciliation between Skyler and Marie either if Skyler is having a neighbour look after Holly while she goes to work. I thought that the phonecall between Walt and Jnr was telling in that Walt is still focusing on the money and can't see the bigger picture. He makes a big song and dance about how its all for his family but at the end of the day his huberis wins out when his reputation is threatened by Gretchen and Elliot's belittling his professional contribution to Grey Matter, and perhaps to some extent, the suggestion that his meth is still out there being made by someone else to the same standard.

All in all quite a depressing episode, not even starting on poor Jesse's predicament, but with some stellar acting and development despite the slower pace. I love that we're going into the finale still not having a clue what's going on in the flash forward scene.

Essien

I'm struggling to think of a gruesome enough end for Todd. I'm praying him and Uncle Jack go for a bath in hydrofluoric acid.

I'm can't really decide whether Jesse Plemons is a good or bad actor. He's never shown even a trace of character or emotion but somehow always manages to give a subtle little insight into what's going on in Todds messed up head. An example is his creepy smile when he heard Jesse talk about him killing Drew, he was more proud of killing the kid than he was concerned about the possibility of Jesse maybe having told someone about it. Creep!

willmunny1990

I don't get this whole "poor jesse" thing. He is getting what he deserves.

Walt and jesse are both getting what they deserve imo, Walt has lost everything, rotting away alone in a cabin, family gone, money and empire all gone and the chances of the money he has left ever reaching his family are slim.

Jesse may not be as bad as Walt but he's still bad, the only innocent people in it at the moment are Jr, Marie and Holly.

I think the ending will be fairly straight forward, Walt comes back to hit the nazi group and maybe grey matter, he'll come across jesse while doing so and there will be a showdown between the two.

begod

willmunny1990 wrote: »

I don't get this whole "poor jesse" thing. He is getting what he deserves.

Walt and jesse are both getting what they deserve imo, Walt has lost everything, rotting away alone in a cabin, family gone, money and empire all gone and the chances of the money he has left ever reaching his family are slim.

Jesse may not be as bad as Walt but he's still bad, the only innocent people in it at the moment are Jr, Marie and Holly.

I think the ending will be fairly straight forward, Walt comes back to hit the nazi group and maybe grey matter, he'll come across jesse while doing so and there will be a showdown between the two.

Yes but who's the ricin for? Its killing me and still a week to go! Thank god it's over in a week because any longer and I think I'd be divorced.

willmunny1990

begod wrote: »

Yes but who's the ricin for? Its killing me and still a week to go! Thank god it's over in a week because any longer and I think I'd be divorced.

I reckon the ricin will have something to do with grey matter.

I just can't see walt using it on the nazis or jesse on account of how slow it kills.

Jimmy Bottlehead

Christ, my stomach hurt when Todd shot Andrea. What an absolute ****.

And the ending... goosebumps... I've always adored the long version of the intro song & it's setup next week as being Heisenberg's last stand.

Can't understand everyone saying this episode was 'a breather'... I'm still reeling from it all.

Seifer

People banging on about Jesse's lock picking skills; try hanging off a bar one handed. Then doing a one-armed pull-up to undo the latch. Even the writer's couldn't figure out how he actually opens the hatch so it was just; cut to Jesse running away.

Other than that I loved it