My leaving cert 2013 is a disgrace.

Paddylol

So yeah... Please don't judge me as iv'e been judged enough. I went threw alot in school and now am annoyed at people. I sat my leaving cert in june 2013, August came around and ilearned what i got. It was 5 points. I am not the brainiest person but i am smart enough.. I don't know what to do anymore. My father suffered a severe stroke when i was starting primary school and it affected my life and my brothers lifes. It just got worse from there on.. Although i had to deal with it. i got bullied the whole way up severely and nothing was done about it although teachers were alerted.

I went to secondary school at a very you age being 12. in first year i had a bebo page set up about me by a few students. They posted on the page everything i did for days.

A past lad then came to my school in 5th year he had made my life hell in the past. I was just unhappy. I then had to leave or just suck it up. I sucked it up for so long and lasted till the end of fifth year from first year doing no work in school at all and just sleeping when i came home, i look back and feel sick about it. I didnt think anyone could treat people as bad as i was treated. Although it was my own fault. My family got me threw it. I then was getting "you dont have a real dad" so that upset me quite a bit and i fought rather then go to the teachers as they done nothing about it for so long. I got suspended... This then led onto me being jumped in school they then realised i was not lying. Its wrong. the lad got suspended but so did i for 1 day... I then fell out with teachers and had no time for them so they put me in the corner of classroom or thrown me out...

Now i am lost with a **** leaving cert to my name but a good junior cert and don't know what to do, no school will accept me to repeat because of my referance from past school.. I just dont know what to do and stressed over it.... Anyone that may know any options?

dee_mc

Hiya, have you approached schools re repeating or are you assuming you won't be accepted based on your reference?
Maybe if you had a good relationship with one or more teachers in the school, or the counsellor, they would give you a more positive reference which might give a more balanced picture of you as a candidate for repeating in a new school?

Paddylol

Yup i have tryed for 5 different schools and they just didnt get back to me, i had a good relationship with 2 teachers but my overall is not great

Ms. Koi

I'm really sorry to read that post, you sound like you had a rough few years. You sound like you really want to do something about it and , so that's all positive.

Have you considered going to a school which specialises in repeats? I agree with dee_mc in trying to contact a teacher you got on well with. It could help your case. If you want to PM me, I might be able to offer you a little more advice?

I think you should definitely try and get in to repeat your leaving cert somewhere away from your original school. Give yourself the best possible chance at doing your very best, make some new friends and hopefully a fresh start.

Good luck!!

HansHolzel

Paddylol wrote: »

So yeah... Please don't judge me as iv'e been judged enough. I went threw alot in school and now am annoyed at people. I sat my leaving cert in june 2013, August came around and ilearned what i got. It was 5 points.

A wind-up wouldn't say 5 points. If you are genuine but pissed, come back to this thread you started but only when you're sober. You won't be sorry.

miller50841

Try and get work and yes I understand your position is very difficult but it would give you the option of returning as a mature student and show you work and keep a good work ethic.

You seem to have learnt something from school because your typing is actually quite good.

Look nobody is perfect and I had a similar problem with school where I was bullied from play school all the way up till the end and I was surprised I finished at all because getting up and having to face the sh1t was terrible and I will never forget.

I passed my leaving but obviously could have done a lot better and just gave up and didn't even study.

I hope things work out for you and best of luck.

dee_mc

Maybe ask for written references from them, make it clear that you'll also be using the one from the principal, and make an appointment with the principal of your favourite of the new schools.
Dress well and make it clear you're ready to work hard, present your good Junior Cert results and explain that the situation which led to your poor Leaving Cert results is now behind you.
All you can do is present yourself as well as possible, make it clear that you're more mature and motivated now, try not to be so down on yourself, and make sure not to blame others too: positivity is key!
I'm sure others will have advice for you on here too, keep us posted on how you get on Best of luck

Paddylol

Sober i am 100% sober as i dont drink.......

bezerk

There's plenty of places like that do the leaving cert and its not like a prison like secondary school. You come and go as you wish. Speak to Fas and they will point you in the right direction. You will be able to keep your dole as well. Its a one year leaving cert and only two subjects you can't do honors in is Irish and Maths(well ya can if ya want but they don't teach higher in them). A lot of things like Biology, Home Ec is kind of self study but they will give you notes on them and try to give you a study schedule to keep on top of them. Most of them are 9 to 4 everyday. Most people in them are adults so won't have to put up with teenage ****e every day

SpaceTime

You might be better looking at places that are aimed specifically at people repeating their Leaving Cert or adults who want to go back to take the exams.

It would be a completely different environment where people are just knuckling down to learn rather than all of the nonsense that can go on with teenagers in school settings.

There are also other routes like the Leaving Cert Applied and Leaving Cert Vocational programmes which might be options.

SpaceTime

HansHolzel wrote: »

Why did you...

That's really not very helpful!

The OP came on here looking for advice. You have no idea what their circumstances are or what they got in their LC.
It's perfectly possible to fail subjects if you're in a bad situation or under a lot of stress and get low points and it's absolutely not the end of the world either.

There are loads of options for re-sitting it in your own time or looking at alternative routes into jobs and careers. Despite what LC students and teachers would have you think, it's not all it's cracked up to be and there are *always* other routes into interesting careers!

Paddylol

Thanks dee_mc, I really appreciate your help, I am gonna do as you said is a good idea ring the teachers i had good relationships with and get a referance.

Also kellief, thank you also i hope i can re-sit it, i want to go onto collage as i did from the start so hopefully now i get it sorted but just was pure lost like didn't know what to do and sitting at home every day is so annoying like,

Hansholzel, I'm sorry i'm not shy to say what i got to anyone mate? I did get 5 points with only passing english. It's quite annoying that you think i am drunk as i don't drink. I just posted this because i noticed it could help with everyones awnsers one of them are bound to work.

Miller, i was going to do exactly that but i realized it is very difficult to get work, i did work experience and my refferance back to the school from the company was amazing but company later shut down

SpaceTime

Go in and have a chat with Youthreach too or give them a ring.
There are options available through both YouthReach and FAS for people who have left school without a LC.

You'd quite likely be eligible.

http://www.youthreach.ie/aatopmenu/AboutYR/about.html

There are also some FAS courses that you'd be eligible for without a Leaving Cert. So, go in and have a chat with them too. You might actually find something that you're really interested in.

There are also some routes into PLCs (Post Leaving Cert Courses) especially for people who have relevant work experience or major interest and can demonstrate they can do the course etc.
It can be worth contacting course directors and having a chat.

peekachoo

Sorry to hear about your circumstances.
As the others said, you should focus on an institute/repeating facility that has no connection to your previous school. You should be given the chance to redeem yourself and i wish you the best of luck with it, i really hope you manage to do well!

HansHolzel

I'm sorry for asking practical questions like what you got in the Junior Cert, so we might know where your subject strengths lay. No offence intended. 5 is the points score for a D3 in pass English.

Paddylol

thats what i got in my lc i only passed ordinary english. I failed english in jc, and passed every other subject with d's and c's, all ordinary.

Paddylol

SpaceTime wrote: »

Go in and have a chat with Youthreach too or give them a ring.
There are options available through both YouthReach and FAS for people who have left school without a LC.

You'd quite likely be eligible.

http://www.youthreach.ie/aatopmenu/AboutYR/about.html

There are also some FAS courses that you'd be eligible for without a Leaving Cert. So, go in and have a chat with them too. You might actually find something that you're really interested in.

There are also some routes into PLCs (Post Leaving Cert Courses) especially for people who have relevant work experience or major interest and can demonstrate they can do the course etc.
It can be worth contacting course directors and having a chat.

Thank you so much space time i will be looking into these tonight and will be ringing tomorrow

SpaceTime

I think if you know a teacher you can sit down over a cup of tea with and discuss options, that might be the best approach.
Or, contact FAS as soon as you can and ask if you can meet with someone for advice.

Youthreach isn't a bad option either, even if you just want to sit down and discuss options with someone.

The main thing is don't stress about it. It's just an exam and there are loads of ways of re-sitting or coming up with alternative ways to get on with your life and make a good living!

Just make sure you get some advice and sit down with someone and have a proper chat about options.

If you've got the funds, or someone could help you out with them, perhaps even go to a private career guidance councillor, even for one or two sessions max. It could be worth it.

SpaceTime

Paddylol wrote: »

Thank you so much space time i will be looking into these tonight and will be ringing tomorrow

Even if you end up say doing a FAS programme for a year and getting a job or whatever, you can always head back and repeat the LC when you're more in that frame of mind at some stage in the future.

Main thing is to get some solid advice from someone who knows their way around the education system.

Perhaps even approach a VEC school or VEC college and ask if you could meet with the careers advisor / guidance councillor as you want to look at options like repeating.

Best of luck with it though and just don't worry about it too much. You'll figure it out!
The Leaving Cert is built up to be a huge thing, and in reality it's not. Most of us don't even remember it

HansHolzel

When you get to the age of 23, points don't matter for most courses, as you are classed as a mature student. School hasn't worked out for you so you might be better off learning by yourself, in things you are interested in, before you choose what you want to study, officially. In the meantime you're probably better off in a job, if you can get one. Are you willing to leave the country to do that? Would that be a big problem to organize re money, contacts etc?

What the other posters are saying is reasonable too.

Paddylol

HansHolzel wrote: »

When you get to the age of 23, points don't matter for most courses, as you are classed as a mature student. School hasn't worked out for you so you might be better off learning by yourself, in things you are interested in, before you choose what you want to study, officially. In the meantime you're probably better off in a job, if you can get one. Are you willing to leave the country to do that? Would that be a big problem to organize re money, contacts etc?

What the other posters are saying is reasonable too.

Yes i know but its pretty hard to get a job with that to your name.... I have family in england, taiwan, canada, germany, australlia but i had though about england but i dont know if i could get a job? I want to go into computers as iveused computers my whole life but had wanted lit but fell threw, I am going to do what space man has ttold me i think

randylonghorn

SpaceTime wrote: »

Perhaps even approach a VEC school or VEC college and ask if you could meet with the careers advisor / guidance councillor as you want to look at options like repeating.

Most VECs have a central Adult Guidance Service which may be easier to access.

KST123

The advice of the previous post above,hopefully has given you a path to getting what you want.
All i can say is you are a strong individual, and you haver been battered by life but yet your still standing, everything you have gone through let that be your motivation to improve and achieve your dreams,let your hurt be your pushing factor and please never give up , you have a chance to achieve greatness just be focused,work hard and have the right attitude.
I do hope you get a chance to repeat the leaving cert hopefully
youll be standing with results you are proud of and a huge smile on your face next year starting a course in Uni.

jr22

Paddy, don't worry man, don't stress. You've got some great advice there from SpaceTime and the other posters. Look into all the options and talk to plenty of people who can help you get things sorted. If you really want to turn things around you'll manage it.

You sound like a sensible and smart guy even if things haven't gone well in school up to now.

Best of luck with everything.

Compu Global Hyper Meganet

The advice to this point has been very good so I'm not really able to add anything to it. All I can say is that I did a college course that required high points. 6 people in that course came in as mature students. One of them had a leaving cert comparable to yours. He got a first class honours, and is now a year away from finishing his final accounting exams with KPMG. He will be a chartered accountant and earning between 60-100K per year. Like other posters have said, the leaving isn't the be all and end all. You just have to be prepared to work your ass off from here on in. Good luck to you.

randylonghorn

Posts deleted, thread tidied up.

Hans, please make a point of being more courteous on this forum.

I presume that you initially thought the OP was trolling, but even if so, report any posts you suspect of trolling and leave them to be dealt with by the mods.

Also, do not use Boards to advise people to forge documents.