Manchester City vs Manchester United Match Thread 22/9/2013 k/o 16.00 Sky.

Cantona's Collars · 20-09-2013 10:25am #1

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GavRedKing · 20-09-2013 10:32am

City havent started that great and Utd are putting together some form.

I reckon a score draw anyway.

Backstreet Moyes · 20-09-2013 10:37am

Will be interesting how United line up. City have dominated the midfield against United in recent games but i think Fellaini will give United a big boost in this area. If the team below is played for the first time in awhile i will be confident of beating City. Unfortunately i fear Giggs and Jones will end up in the team somewhere.

De Gea

Smalling Rio Vidic Evra

Fellaini Carrick

Valencia Rooney Welbeck

RVP

DoctorGonzo08 · 20-09-2013 10:45am

Nuts102 wrote: »

Will be interesting how United line up. City have dominated the midfield against United in recent games but i think Fellaini will give United a big boost in this area. If the team below is played for the first time in awhile i will be confident of beating City. Unfortunately i fear Giggs and Jones will end up in the team somewhere.

De Gea

Smalling Rio Vidic Evra

Fellaini Carrick

Valencia Rooney Welbeck

RVP

Not sure where you're getting your confiddence from. The addition of Fellaini to the team isn't going to allow for a team that attacking away from home. I'd agree with Gav, and taking into consideration all the games at City over the last couple of years have been fairly poor. I'd imagine this would be a low scoring game, if not a 0-0. Utd will want to go to keep it tight and take the point. If they did chose to go all out attack, they would be left very exposed, and I wouldn't favour Evra in a counter attack against Navas at all.

Nothing is won in September! I think both Managers will be determined not to lose. Although, I have heard a rumour the there is a clause in Pellegrini's contract that he must win Sunday games. He hasn't started that well, losing to Cardiff on his first attempt, but it will be alot worse losing his first derby on the Sunday if true. The basis for the clause apparently is to do with international broadcasting and how it will affect the overall brand the owners are trying to build.

Cantona's Collars · 20-09-2013 10:46am

Gonna be great to have somebody (Fellaini) in midfield that can stand up to YaYa's physicality.

Pepe LeFrits · 20-09-2013 10:47am

I reckon City will win this.

richierichballs · 20-09-2013 11:15am

United have been poor all season, Moyes is completely out of his dept I think.

City will rise to the occasion for this one, especially after an impressive second half this week in the champions league.

RVD420 · 20-09-2013 11:28am

richierichballs wrote: »

United have been poor all season, Moyes is completely out of his dept I think.

City will rise to the occasion for this one, especially after an impressive second half this week in the champions league.

Did you see Tuesday's game?

richierichballs · 20-09-2013 11:42am

RVD420 wrote: »

Did you see Tuesday's game?

I did yeah.

Backstreet Moyes · 20-09-2013 11:45am

richierichballs wrote: »

United have been poor all season, Moyes is completely out of his dept I think.

City will rise to the occasion for this one, especially after an impressive second half this week in the champions league.

If United have been poor what's your opinions on how City and Pellegrini have done so far this season.

GavRedKing · 20-09-2013 11:47am

richierichballs wrote: »

United have been poor all season, Moyes is completely out of his dept I think.

City will rise to the occasion for this one, especially after an impressive second half this week in the champions league.

So youre saying City will rise for the game after a 2nd half display but dismiss Utds performace against a superior team on the same night?

Thats flawed logic IMO.

richierichballs · 20-09-2013 11:47am

Nuts102 wrote: »

If United have been poor what's your opinions on how City and Pellegrini have done so far this season.

been awful for the majority of it, kompany and nastasic both being injured certainly didn't help things. especially with no decent cover.

Both are fully fit for Sunday and I hear Silva may also be fit to play.

richierichballs · 20-09-2013 11:48am

GavRedKing wrote: »

So youre saying City will rise for the game after a 2nd half display but dismiss Utds performace against a superior team on the same night?

Thats flawed logic IMO.

City have a fully fit back four for the first time this season (clichy maybe still doubtful.)

It showed the other night and will show on sunday.

Blatter · 20-09-2013 11:56am

richierichballs wrote: »

City have a fully fit back four for the first time this season (clichy maybe still doubtful.)

It showed the other night and will show on sunday.

You were playing Victoria Plzen the other night. That shows next to nothing. Sunday will be a proper test.

Mocha Joe · 20-09-2013 12:10pm

DoctorGonzo08 wrote: »

Nothing is won in September! I think both Managers will be determined not to lose. Although, I have heard a rumour the there is a clause in Pellegrini's contract that he must win Sunday games. He hasn't started that well, losing to Cardiff on his first attempt, but it will be alot worse losing his first derby on the Sunday if true. The basis for the clause apparently is to do with international broadcasting and how it will affect the overall brand the owners are trying to build.

:pac:

Blatter · 20-09-2013 12:19pm

DoctorGonzo08 wrote: »

Although, I have heard a rumour the there is a clause in Pellegrini's contract that he must win Sunday games. He hasn't started that well, losing to Cardiff on his first attempt, but it will be alot worse losing his first derby on the Sunday if true. The basis for the clause apparently is to do with international broadcasting and how it will affect the overall brand the owners are trying to build.

This is surely a piss take?

DoctorGonzo08 · 20-09-2013 12:20pm

Mocha Joe wrote: »

:pac:

You'll need to clarify what point you are referring to, or is it all of it? Top contribution though!

Mocha Joe · 20-09-2013 12:21pm

DoctorGonzo08 wrote: »

You'll need to clarify what point you are referring to, or is it all of it? Top contribution though!

The entire paragraph I quoted. Clearly a joke yeah? You don't actually believe that.

DoctorGonzo08 · 20-09-2013 12:23pm

Blatter wrote: »

This is surely a piss take?

No, can't confirm it by anything other than what I was told, hence why I said rumour. The owners are heavily branding the team on Etihad, and it is their view that the Sunday game has the widest catching audience, therefore the best oppurtunity to advertise themselves. Sounded a bit mad to me, but it was coming from someone who works in PR for the club.

Mocha Joe · 20-09-2013 12:24pm

DoctorGonzo08 wrote: »

No, can't confirm it by anything other than what I was told, hence why I said rumour. The owners are heavily branding the team on Etihad, and it is their view that the Sunday game has the widest catching audience, therefore the best oppurtunity to advertise themselves. Sounded a bit mad to me, but it was coming from someone who works in PR for the club.

It's complete and utter nonsense. Pellegrini isn't Steve Kean. He wouldn't work under any ridiculous conditions.

Lovely Bloke · 20-09-2013 12:27pm

that's an amazing rumour

Blatter · 20-09-2013 12:27pm

DoctorGonzo08 wrote: »

No, can't confirm it by anything other than what I was told, hence why I said rumour. The owners are heavily branding the team on Etihad, and it is their view that the Sunday game has the widest catching audience, therefore the best oppurtunity to advertise themselves. Sounded a bit mad to me, but it was coming from someone who works in PR for the club.

It's odd from the pov that surely a minimum requirement for a City manager is to do his best in every game. Stipulating that he has to win on Sundays kind of negates that!

DoctorGonzo08 · 20-09-2013 12:30pm

Mocha Joe wrote: »

It's complete and utter nonsense. Pellegrini isn't Steve Kean. He wouldn't work under any ridiculous conditions.

Given the involvement of the board in the club over the last 12 months, it wouldn't surprise me. If it was put to Pellegrini that he would recieve a bonus for such results, I wouldn't see why he would reject it.

It's not like The Sheil has bought the club for the love of the game. The main reason he invested in England was to push his company Etihad. Given his investment in the surrounding area and business, he would hardly want a dead duck fronting his advertising. If anybody has travelled with Etihad you will have seen the team used to the point of cringy in their adverts.

mike65 · 20-09-2013 12:31pm

*needle on my Stupidometer is now bent*

Mocha Joe · 20-09-2013 12:32pm

DoctorGonzo08 wrote: »

Given the involvement of the board in the club over the last 12 months, it wouldn't surprise me. If it was put to Pellegrini that he would recieve a bonus for such results, I wouldn't see why he would reject it.

Jesus Christ man. There is zero chance this is true. I can maybe understand a bonus incentive to win the game. Though I doubt a bit of extra cash would make him want to win the game more than he does already. But he has to win big Sunday games or he'll be sacked? No chance.

richierichballs · 20-09-2013 12:38pm

DoctorGonzo08 wrote: »

No, can't confirm it by anything other than what I was told, hence why I said rumour. The owners are heavily branding the team on Etihad, and it is their view that the Sunday game has the widest catching audience, therefore the best oppurtunity to advertise themselves. Sounded a bit mad to me, but it was coming from someone who works in PR for the club.

Absolutely ridiculous talk, embarrassing really.

GavRedKing · 20-09-2013 1:10pm

DoctorGonzo08 wrote: »

I have heard a rumour the there is a clause in Pellegrini's contract that he must win Sunday games. He hasn't started that well, losing to Cardiff on his first attempt, but it will be alot worse losing his first derby on the Sunday if true. .

Pellegrini to be sacked on Sunday afternoon. :pac:

Cantona's Collars · 20-09-2013 10:20pm

onemorechance · 22-09-2013 2:29pm

Mocha Joe wrote: »

It's complete and utter nonsense. Pellegrini isn't Steve Kean. He wouldn't work under any ridiculous conditions.

City are a marketing tool for the Emirates; although I doubt something specific about Sunday games is written in his contract, there will be conditions pursuant to their aims of promoting the image of the Emirates.

HazDanz · 22-09-2013 2:34pm

I reckon a draw today.

8-8

rightyabe · 22-09-2013 2:37pm

I'm goin either 2-1 r 3-2 to utd...

Kylo Ren · 22-09-2013 2:39pm

I also heard Pelligrini needs to win at least 89.5% of his games in December because it will increase Christmas sales and is the optimum month for boosting their brand.