Season 5, Episode 16: Felina

Seve OB

banquo wrote: »

That's what all the heads on the page said, but the official folks saying it's from the finale!

Padraig Mor wrote: »

Think they might be messing! The clothes in the still are different from those in the bar, and in the FFs. He hardly changed and then changed again!

Picture is definitely from Granite state.

clothes are what Walt was wearing when he got dropped off by Mr Vacuum and he went straight down to the gate and instead of marching straight out... said "tomorrow"

look at the still... no hair under that hat is another giveaway, and i don't think he was wearing the Heisenberg hat when he went down to the pub

Seve OB

Padraig Mor wrote: »

Definite final episode spoiler if accurate. Not massive, but gives a strong indicator of some of the content. You have been warned!

SPOILER ALERT!

http://theater.nytimes.com/2013/05/19/theater/jessica-hecht-on-the-assembled-parties.html?_r=0
The actress playing Gretchen did scenes in ABQ for the final season. The TV interview in Granite State was filmed in New York (very final scene to be filmed apparently). Therefore, we haven't seen her ABQ scene yet! Flashback I reckon.

x43r0 wrote: »

I don't see Walt physically harming the Schwartz's but rather finding a way to ruin them financially by bringing down Grey Matter

banquo wrote: »

Still reckon he uses the G&E to get the cash to his family in a legit way and in a way that they accept it.

I still reckon that it's no flashback.. they are getting the Ricin!

Padraig Mor

stevieob wrote: »

[speculation]

I'd spoiler tag that if I were you!

Seve OB

Padraig Mor wrote: »

I'd spoiler tag that if I were you!

i'm making an assumption... why do you think i should spoiler tag and others are free to make their own assumptions?

Padraig Mor

stevieob wrote: »

i'm making an assumption... why do you think i should spoiler tag and others are free to make their own assumptions?

Because your post makes the content of my spoiler obvious.

Torqay

stevieob wrote: »

they are getting the Ricin!

2 questions though:

Why he would want to kill Gretchen and Elliott with ricin? (Why not just blow them away with the machine gun?)

And how is he going to administer it? (Surely they won't invite him to a dinner party.) Maybe Jesse's paranoia is a hint ("have me sit on a poison needle").

NicoleL88

Gretchen and Elliot will have no part to play in the finale. Their appearance was just to reinforce both in Walt and in the audience that:

"Whatever [Walt] became, the sweet, kind, brilliant man that we once knew long ago, is gone".

P.Walnuts

NicoleL88 wrote: »

Gretchen and Elliot will have no part to play in the finale. Their appearance was just to reinforce both in Walt and in the audience that:

"Whatever [Walt] became, the sweet, kind, brilliant man that we once knew long ago, is gone".

Seems kinda excessive to bring to characters, so close to the heart of Heisenberg, back to state the obvious?

Surely a police news conference could of done the same job, I dunno it would be odd for me after that interview for them not to be involved somehow in the finale.

NicoleL88

P.Walnuts wrote: »

Seems kinda excessive to bring to characters, so close to the heart of Heisenberg, back to state the obvious?

Surely a police news conference could of done the same job, I dunno it would be odd for me after that interview for them not to be involved somehow in the finale.

I get where you're coming from, but a police news conference wouldn't have hit as close to home to Walt as Gretchen delivering that same statement did.

Sanguine Fan

Sorry if this has been mentioned already but whatever loose ends are tied up in the last episode, there is one that must be resolved.

Walt has to send the co-ordinates showing where Hank is buried to Marie. The Nazis certainly won't and Jesse - as of now - is unable to.

Sanguine Fan

NicoleL88 wrote: »

Gretchen and Elliot will have no part to play in the finale. Their appearance was just to reinforce both in Walt and in the audience that:

"Whatever [Walt] became, the sweet, kind, brilliant man that we once knew long ago, is gone".

A bit more than that surely? But for that appearance, Walt would have been arrested.

No, Walt won't allow his legacy to be written off so easily.

NicoleL88

Sanguine Fan wrote: »

A bit more than that surely? But for that appearance, Walt would have been arrested.

Good point! I guess we'll all know for certain in... 107 hours! :eek::D

Torqay

Sanguine Fan wrote: »

there is one that must be resolved.

Walt has to send the co-ordinates showing where Hank is buried to Marie.

Why does he have to do that? He told her already, "You're never gonna see Hank again".

Anyway, Marie better be dead by the end the series!

Sanguine Fan

Torqay wrote: »

Why does he have to do that? He told her already, "You're never gonna see Hank again".

Anyway, Marie better be dead by the end the series!

Walt said that to Skyler during the phone call in Ozymandias.

I am hoping he has enough humanity left to do the decent thing by his sister-in-law. It would cost him nothing.

Dave!

Torqay wrote: »

Why does he have to do that? He told her already, "You're never gonna see Hank again".

Anyway, Marie better be dead by the end the series!

Don't worry, that's where the ricin cigarette comes into it - Walt offers one to Marie because she's so stressed about not knowing if Hank is dead or alive, and then she sh*ts herself to death. Ahaww, Heisenberg you've done it again!

Ricin cigarette lol

Torqay

Sanguine Fan wrote: »

Walt said that to Skyler during the phone call in Ozymandias.

Knowing full well that the police and Marie were listening.

Dave! wrote: »

Don't worry, that's where the ricin cigarette comes into it - Walt offers one to Marie because she's so stressed about not knowing if Hank is dead or alive, and then she sh*ts herself to death. Ahaww, Heisenberg you've done it again!

Ricin cigarette lol

spoiler lol

Wacker The Attacker

stevieob wrote: »

I still reckon that it's no flashback.. they are getting the Ricin!

If Grey Matter get the ricin could Walter find a way to profit from Grey Matters downfall?

Wacker The Attacker

Torqay wrote: »

Why does he have to do that? He told her already, "You're never gonna see Hank again".

Anyway, Marie better be dead by the end the series!

With Jesse and Lydia

Timmyctc

trashcan wrote: »

I'm not entirely clear as to why Saul felt the need to go on the run. Was he really implicated in any criminal activity ? Had he anything to fear from the Nazis or Lydia ? Didn't really make sense to me.

He knew something was up with Huel. Sure he was wearing that Kevlar vest once Huel's phone stopped working.
Likely he figured Huel had made him and wanted to get out of there.

Degag

While it would be an interesting plot line, I can't see Walt using Grey Matter to get the money to his family. Why would they go along with it? There would be nothing to gain for them and everything to lose.

Wacker The Attacker

Degag wrote: »

While it would be an interesting plot line, I can't see Walt using Grey Matter to get the money to his family. Why would they go along with it? There would be nothing to gain for them and everything to lose.

True.

It makes little or no sense. What if Walter pulls some kind of blackmail move on them?

[-0-]

Sorry of this was already posted.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/daves4/questions-that-need-to-be-answered-on-breaking-bad

Patty O Furniture

NicoleL88 wrote: »

Was trying to work out with a mate what the finale title means.

Anagram of "Finale" is the obvious one.

But...

Fe = Iron
Li = Lithium
Na = Sodium

Blood, Meth, and Tears!

Thought we were total geniuses and were going to post it online, turns out someone on Reddit got there two weeks before us! :pac:

I checked the thread if this was posted on the explanation of Felina, as i googled it, dont look if you dont want to spoil it,

told you not to look

• "Felina" is an anagram for "finale",
  and is also the feminine version of the word "feline" in Spanish.
• The word "Felina" can be made from these three chemical element symbols: Fe (Iron), Li (Lithium) and Na (Sodium).
• Vince Gilligan's exclusive tease for this episode (as seen on Talking Bad) was one word: "Woodworking".
• The title may be a reference to the 1959 song "El Paso" by Western music artist Marty Robbins. The song concerns an unnamed cowboy who falls in love with a woman named Faleena.

it's from the Breaking Bad wikipage

Also here's a promo pic for the finale

Shifty11

Anyone know what time <SNIP>? I usually watch it on netflix on Monday, but there's not a hope I'm waiting that long!!!

Mod: No Torrent/Download Talk.

banquo

^^^ I am not answering the above question, which would obviously be against forum rules.

On a completely separate note, I find myself waking up in the middle of the night on Mondays recently around 3:30am. It's a very strange problem that's been affecting me the last 7 weeks.

irishgirl19

dave1982 wrote: »

All bad things come to an end

*****No Spoilers in trailer****

I got goosebumps watching lol.

All hail king Heisenberg!

bezerk

Walt and Jesse to finally declare there feelings for one another and ride into the sunset on horses holding hands.

Patty O Furniture

bezerk wrote: »

Walt and Jesse to finally declare there feelings for one another and ride into the sunset on horses holding hands.

You mean like this

Vaxxine

I could never take Grethcen seriously, I see her and think, "Hey, she's the lesbian in 'Friends'!" (Ross's ex wife's missus, susan)

(Dunno if it's been mentioned before)

Edit: Nothing against lesbians mind you, it's just the contrast between the two characters, and I never liked either of them )

banquo

Vaxxine wrote: »

I could never take Grethcen seriously, I see her and think, "Hey, she's the lesbian in 'Friends'!" (Ross's ex wife's missus, susan)

(Dunno if it's been mentioned before)

Edit: Nothing against lesbians mind you, it's just the contrast between the two characters, and I never liked either of them )

THAT'S what I know her from!

Thank you.

bezerk

Who's Walt going to poision with The Ricin behind the Wall Plug I wonder?

Zyzz

bezerk wrote: »

Who's Walt going to poision with The Ricin behind the Wall Plug I wonder?

He may use it to take down Grey Matter..or kill Elliot..well thats what I got from the last episode and the way that it ended (Walt's angry face lol)

TerrorFirmer

I swear to god, after the absolute farce that was the Dexter finale, I've placed all hope in this. It needs to deliver.

Wacker The Attacker

bezerk wrote: »

Who's Walt going to poision with The Ricin behind the Wall Plug I wonder?

Lydia's taking that in her camomile

snausages

I am tumescent with anticipation.

Felina is the name of the finale btw. It has to be because the next preloaded Talking Bad episode is named Felina.

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snausages wrote: »

I am tumescent with anticipation.

Felina is the name of the finale btw. It has to be because the next preloaded Talking Bad episode is named Felina.

Great word.

Seve OB

snausages wrote: »

Felina is the name of the finale btw. It has to be because the next preloaded Talking Bad episode is named Felina.

ehhhh did you even look at the thread title? we know that for ages!!

snausages

stevieob wrote: »

ehhhh did you even look at the thread title? we know that for ages!!

There was some scepticism for a while over the fact that AMC didn't officially confirm it. All we had was an image of a script held by Marie.

Padraig Mor wrote: »

I read somewhere - can't remember where - that "Felina" hasn't been officially confirmed as the episode title, and is just based on someone seeing the actress playing Marie with a script with that title.

dave1982

Felina= finale

Wacker The Attacker

snausages wrote: »

I am tumescent with anticipation.

Felina is the name of the finale btw. It has to be because the next preloaded Talking Bad episode is named Felina.

I'm also distended with excitement

Wacker The Attacker

dave1982 wrote: »

Felina= finale

Felina = Finale = Climax

Seve OB

Wacker The Attacker wrote: »

Felina = Finale = Climax

I'm nearly climaxing at every episode I watch lately.....:D

Reebrock

I'm going to climax in my pants with this final episode, I'm sure of it.

snausages

Sounds like the finale will be a seminal moment in TV history.

Wacker The Attacker

Reebrock wrote: »

I'm going to climax in my pants with this final episode, I'm sure of it.

There will be chunkies a plenty on sunday\monday

Wacker The Attacker

snausages wrote: »

Sounds like the finale will be a seminal moment in TV history.

One can only hope so.

Patty O Furniture

This could break viewing records in the US, as i think the final ep of MASH has it or maybe the Sopranos.
As i remember George Wendt/Norm was asked on the LLS on the Cheers finale, he had said it was only a tenth of what Mash had.

So i assume Mash has it, as i dont know how many watched The Sopranos?

Seve OB

Patty O Furniture wrote: »

This could break viewing records in the US, as i think the final ep of MASH has it or maybe the Sopranos.
As i remember George Wendt/Norm was asked on the LLS on the Cheers finale, he had said it was only a tenth of what Mash had.

So i assume Mash has it, as i dont know how many watched The Sopranos?

hmmmmm........

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_watched_television_broadcasts

Neil McCauleys Cooler Brother

I think they are expecting around the 8 million viewers mark. Well down the field.

Torqay

AMC's cutomer base is way too small. They're competing with the likes of HBO and Showtime, not the big networks. I even doubt if BB has a fighting chance against GoT in the torrent "hit list".