Manchester United vs Liverpool Match Thread 25/9/2013. League Cup. *MOD NOTE POST 325

Kess73

slingerz wrote: »

Any idea of possible lineups? I reckon Liverpool will be pretty much first XI, dont reckon they have many other players to start than the first choice.

Mignolet
Kelly
Sakho
Toure
Enrique
Gerrard
Lucas
Henderson
Suarez
Moses
Sturridge

Subs: Jones, Skrtel, Wisdom, Sterling, Alberto, Aspas, Ibe

Possibly the worst bench in the history of Liverpool allowing for injuries to Allen, Cissokho, Coutinho and Agger

United is a lot more difficult to predict. I would imagine that there would be a share of rotation but its hard to say what side will play

Think Sturridge may be on the bench as he is still not 100% and that one of Gerrard or Lucas will be on the bench as they have each been gassing badly in the second half of games.

Henderson to go into the centre instead of Gerrard or Lucas, and Alberto to take the AM slot would be my guess.

One of Sterling or Aspas to go into the attack with Sturridge out and that would see Suarez most likely in the central striker role unless Rodgers decides to play Aspas in that position.

Kelly is another that may or may not be ready for the game, so that could see Wisdom start at RB.


With Johnson, Agger, Coutinho, Allen, and Cissokho out with injuries, and the trio of Kelly, Sturridge, and Enrique all carrying knocks/still coming back from injury, we are not exactly spoilt for choice in terms of being able to bring a very strong team to OT tonight.

Crash Bang Wall

Kess73 wrote: »

Think Sturridge may be on the bench as he is still not 100% and that one of Gerrard or Lucas will be on the bench as they have each been gassing badly in the second half of games.

Henderson to go into the centre instead of Gerrard or Lucas, and Alberto to take the AM slot would be my guess.

One of Sterling or Aspas to go into the attack with Sturridge out and that would see Suarez most likely in the central striker role unless Rodgers decides to play Aspas in that position.

Kelly is another that may or may not be ready for the game, so that could see Wisdom start at RB.


With Johnson, Agger, Coutinho, Allen, and Cissokho out with injuries, and the trio of Kelly, Sturridge, and Enrique all carrying knocks/still coming back from injury, we are not exactly spoilt for choice in terms of being able to bring a very strong team to OT tonight.

Is Allen definitely still injured? Just havent heard anything re his injury in any of the press conferences or in the press

Dickerty

Kess73 wrote: »

One of Sterling or Aspas to go into the attack with Sturridge out and that would see Suarez most likely in the central striker role unless Rodgers decides to play Aspas in that position.

Given the way Aspas played first half against Soton, he needs a day off, not a tough away game when he'll see little of the ball.

Suarez central for me, Moses and Sterling either side. Might have to start with Lucas, Stevie and Hendo central, as we are still without Allen and Coutinho. Alberto is not a CM, he doesn't work hard enough yet to play that role as a CM with defending and a #10 when attacking.

Kess73 wrote: »

Kelly is another that may or may not be ready for the game, so that could see Wisdom start at RB.

Has to be Wisdom, Kelly has nowhere near his sharpness yet, and Wisdom will have a point to prove after losing out to Toure on Sat...

5starpool

Liverpool have named essentially their first choice squad, minus Agger for this game. Allen is included and will start if fit I reckon. It will either be Toure/Kelly or Wisdom at full back. I would like it to be Kelly, but suspect it will be Toure again. How I think Liverpool will line out:

Mignolet
Toure
Skrtel
Sakho
Enrique
Gerrard
Allen
Henderson
Moses
Suarez
Sturridge

It is nearly as strong as they can go at the minute, but I'm still not confident of a positive result. I think Utd will mix and match, bringing in a few fringe players who some are calling to be first team players anyhow. I think Utd will start a team like:

Amos (seems to be first choice backup now?)
Fabio
Evans
Jones (if fit, not sure)
Smalling
Carrick
Cleverly
Rooney
Kagawa
Nani
Hernandez

It's hard to argue that even on paper that Liverpool lineup is as strong as Utd's with only a few first team regulars, but hopefully it'll be a good game anyhow, one that doesn't go to extra time, and one that is a Liverpool victory. It shows the lack of depth of Liverpool's squad, but obviously with no CL (or real prospects of it) it is difficult to maintain a larger squad with real quality.

jamaamaj

RasTa wrote: »

Heading over to this, don't really care about the result. Don't think there is any pressure on Moyes. I will treat it the same way as Chelsea knocked us out last year if it happens. I'm more interested in the team selection. Hopefully see Jan, Nani, Kaga and Hernandez start

Yeah right!

Pull the other one, it's got bells on it.

FamousSeamus

I'm unsure about this, I'd like United to win but if Moyes plays youngsters and loses then I wouldn't be too upset. I'm just hoping Moyes changes up the team a bit, start Kagawa and Hernandez would be one, as for pressure on Moyes I dunno it is only the league cup and all that's at stake here would be bragging rights!!

SlickRic

Moyes won't play youngsters.

Rodgers won't play a second team.

what Moyes might do is put Rooney on the bench, giving Kagawa a run out. plus he might give Evans, Nani, Chico and Fabio a game.

having said that, i do expect Rooney to start.

Mitch Connor

SlickRic wrote: »

Moyes won't play youngsters.

Rodgers won't play a second team.

what Moyes might do is put Rooney on the bench, giving Kagawa a run out. plus he might give Evans, Nani, Chico and Fabio a game.

having said that, i do expect Rooney to start.

There are very few youngsters to play.

Januzaj and Keane would be it, imo.

---

Amos/Lindegaard
Rafael-Evans--Jones--Evra
---Cleverley-Anderson
Nani----Kagawa---Zaha

---

Hernandez

not beyond the realms of possibility.

Can't see Vidic or Rio playing. Fellaini is cup tied so Cleverley and Anderson quite possible (with Carrick rested). Surely Valencia and Young have to be dropped from this game. Kagawa should really starting and Hernandez has to (imo) but could see one benched for Rooney - though could see Rooney instead of Zaha, Kagawa pushed wide.

Would be happy, but CM would be a massive potential problem, obviously.

RikkFlair

Last time this fixture was played with an evening kick off (at either ground) was 05/06...am I right? Can't recall any more recent than that.

Luckycharms_74

slingerz

Would Welbeck not be in the United lineup?

RasTa

jamaamaj wrote: »

Yeah right!

Pull the other one, it's got bells on it.

The league cup is as important as the charity shield to me. A good performance is what I want to see.

Cantona's Collars

slingerz wrote: »

Would Welbeck not be in the United lineup?

Judging by how he played the other day,I wouldn't let him into the ground let alone the squad tonight.

COYW

I wouldn't play Suarez in this game, if I was BR. Liverpool play Sunderland at the weekend, which will be a far easier fixture for his return. Suarez is quite likely to get wound up tonight and end up doing something daft. I think Liverpool can win the game without him.

I'll go for 1-2 to Liverpool in normal time. United are just not playing well at the moment, at all. They have a nice run of games coming up after this. I expect that they will find their feet under Moyes during that period and push on with a serious title challenge after Christmas.

FutureGuy

Lads, as a United fan, I just want to say something. I know there will be die-hards on either side that will disagree strongly with me but that's life.

We are all fans of football. We can all spot supreme talent, regardless of the side he plays on. We can see when a player brings something unique to the game, and I hope we can all agree that tonight marks the return of such a man. A player who hasn't donned the red shirt for an age, and I for one have missed watching his skill, determination and finishing every week. I already have a tenner on him to score first at really good odds. Welcome back Nicklas Bendtner.

Donnielighto

Agueroooo wrote: »

and I thought I was bad at Photoshop....pheeew

Whats the deal with the aguerooo thing, city fan/like him/abu?

Rasta is heading over to the game and doesn't care about the result.

Best post yet!

Donnielighto

rarnes1 wrote: »

Rasta is heading over to the game and doesn't care about the result.

Best post yet!

you don know rasta only supports united because of dion dublin. Loop the loop looked like a Jamaica flag in his throwback jersey

5starpool

Donnielighto wrote: »

Whats the deal with the aguerooo thing, city fan/like him/abu?

Liverpool fan who likes Aguero I believe. It was asked before in (one of) the LFC thread, but I can't be bothered to search.

I can't imagine having my username based on a player from a different club, but each to their own, etc.

Professional Griefer

Giggs will probably start,

Donnielighto

5starpool wrote: »

Liverpool fan who likes Aguero I believe. It was asked before in (one of) the LFC thread, but I can't be bothered to search.

I can't imagine having my username based on a player from a different club, but each to their own, etc.

Ya, thought it was odd. Eyore a tribute to heskey?? :pac:

(seriously though, like heskey, love him in fifa 12)

Rayne Wooney

Moyes just can't lose this, losing twice to pool, beaten by City and a draw with Chelsea will surely start some alarm bells ringing.

You'd expect that from Everton not the PL champions.


If we play the way we have for most of this season we'll lose.

DaveSuarez

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

Moyes just can't lose this, losing twice to pool, beaten by City and a draw with Chelsea will surely start some alarm bells ringing.

You'd expect that from Everton not the PL champions.


If we play the way we have for most of this season we'll lose.

And if we play the way we have for most of the season we'll lose.

So someones definitely losing.

5starpool

Donnielighto wrote: »

Ya, thought it was odd. Eyore a tribute to heskey?? :pac:

(seriously though, like heskey, love him in fifa 12)

Eeyore is more of a reference to my particularly cheery outlook on life.

SlickRic

i'd make a prediction, as pointless as that is, but I need to see the teams first.

if Giggs starts, Liverpool might have a chance.

otherwise, Utd should really win this, though Suarez is the wildcard. he could do anything.

Donnielighto

5starpool wrote: »

Eeyore is more of a reference to my particularly cheery outlook on life.

Come to the dark side, we have titles and cake.

Donnielighto

SlickRic wrote: »

i'd make a prediction, as pointless as that is, but I need to see the teams first.

if Giggs starts, Liverpool might have a chance.

otherwise, Utd should really win this, though Suarez is the wildcard. he could do anything.

5starpool

Donnielighto wrote: »

Come to the dark side, we have titles and cake.

I do like cake, but I hate utd. Hmm.

shadowcomplex

Dcully wrote: »

Hattrick of dives maybe :P

We might get 3 pens so

dfx-

5starpool wrote: »

I do like cake, but I hate utd. Hmm.

The cake will soon be gone and utd will still be there..

Donnielighto

dfx- wrote: »

The cake will soon be gone and utd will still be there..

Always.

5starpool

dfx- wrote: »

The cake will soon be gone and utd will still be there..

I'd at least like to find out what type of cake it is. It's probably like the 'stress test' thing that scientologists use to get their hook into you. You can do the test but still escape, so I might try to have the cake (and eat it too), then not actually go through with it.

It all depends on the type of cake though.

slingerz

Anderson to start alongside Giggs

RikkFlair

Anderson to start alongside, and eventually eat, a cake.

mayordenis

5starpool wrote: »

Eeyore is more of a reference to my particularly cheery outlook on life.

always thought it was an ode to me

Rayne Wooney

The fate of this game will be sealed in an hour when the teams are released


#prayforkagawa

RasTa

Damn I love these ales. 2.29 a pint!

.E_C_K_S.

Hi lads, what channel is this on? Didn't see it mentioned! Thanks

Mr.Crinklewood

Who mentioned "Cake"?.

Mrs Crinklewood will be all over this thread now.

Thanks.

Nunu

.E_C_K_S. wrote: »

Hi lads, what channel is this on? Didn't see it mentioned! Thanks

Skysports 2

www.liveonsat.com

mike65

#LFC squad traveling to Manchester : Mignolet, Wisdom, Kelly, Toure, Skrtel, Enrique, Gerrard, Lucas, Henderson, Moses, Suarez,Sturridge, Jones, Sakho, Allen, Alberto, Sterling, Aspas, Ibe.

Rayne Wooney

Could probably make Liverpool's best 11 out of that

Waiting game for the United one now

Milkers

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

Could probably make Liverpool's best 11 out of that

Waiting game for the United one now

Glen Johnson?

Rayne Wooney

Milkers wrote: »

Glen Johnson?

Do you understand the word probably

Milkers

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

Do you understand the word probably

Agger? Coutinho?

mike65

could be, straight off twitter

Liverpool XI Vs ManUtd: Mignolet, Toure, Skrtel, Sakho, Enrique, Lucas, Henderson, Gerrard, Moses, Suarez, Sturridge

Liverpool subs: Jones, Alberto, Aspas, Sterling, Ibe, Kelly, Wisdom

Stevecw

mike65 wrote: »

could be, straight off twitter

Liverpool XI Vs ManUtd: Mignolet, Toure, Skrtel, Sakho, Enrique, Lucas, Henderson, Gerrard, Moses, Suarez, Sturridge

That's the starting side alrite great to see Suarez thrown straight in there. Strong team

klose

: De Gea, Rafael, Evans, Smalling, Buttner, Nani, Jones, Giggs, Kagawa, Rooney, Hernandez

Paul Tergat

CM just not good enough im afraid

Rayne Wooney

Is that a CM of Giggs and Jones?

Lol


Other than that a front four of Hernandez, Rooney, Nani and Kagawa is one of the best around. Pity Liverpool will probably just dominate in midfield and not allow them to play.