Pedestrian Crossing Lower Mallow Street-Shannon Bridge Roundabout

Popoutman

If the crossing is within the braking distance of a car from the exit of the roundabout, the crossing is simply too close to the roundabout. The average driver has enough trouble keeping the situational awareness at a high level regarding the real dangers to themselves on a roundabout (cars/trucks entering). The last thing that you would expect on a roundabout is the car in front slamming heavily on the brakes, especially when monitoring cars coming from the side.

I've seen a large number of small collisions at both the Groody and Kilmurry roundabouts in Castletroy, and I've heard of too many pedestrian-car connections. Putting a pedestrian crossing across three lanes of traffic was a stupid idea, as well as having the crossing so close to the exit.

The ideal situation would be to move the crossing out further from the roundabout. The primary purpose of a roundabout is to facilitate smooth traffic flow - not to provide a pedestrian crossing position. After all - cars are *not* supposed to stop at entry on a roundabout (they are signed for "yield" not for stop..) and this is why they work well, with cars taking safe gaps in the other traffic, ensuring smooth traffic flows, when used properly.

The standard of the average driver's use of roundabout lanes and signalling suggests that the extra mental processing load on the driver is probably a bit too much to allow for safe use - and as such should be accounted for in the road design. How Irish is it to do something wrong this repeatedly? How many deaths will it take before the council design groups make the changes?

steveon

Popoutman wrote: »

If the crossing is within the braking distance of a car from the exit of the roundabout, the crossing is simply too close to the roundabout. The average driver has enough trouble keeping the situational awareness at a high level regarding the real dangers to themselves on a roundabout (cars/trucks entering). The last thing that you would expect on a roundabout is the car in front slamming heavily on the brakes, especially when monitoring cars coming from the side.

I've seen a large number of small collisions at both the Groody and Kilmurry roundabouts in Castletroy, and I've heard of too many pedestrian-car connections. Putting a pedestrian crossing across three lanes of traffic was a stupid idea, as well as having the crossing so close to the exit.

The ideal situation would be to move the crossing out further from the roundabout. The primary purpose of a roundabout is to facilitate smooth traffic flow - not to provide a pedestrian crossing position. After all - cars are *not* supposed to stop at entry on a roundabout (they are signed for "yield" not for stop..) and this is why they work well, with cars taking safe gaps in the other traffic, ensuring smooth traffic flows, when used properly.

The standard of the average driver's use of roundabout lanes and signalling suggests that the extra mental processing load on the driver is probably a bit too much to allow for safe use - and as such should be accounted for in the road design. How Irish is it to do something wrong this repeatedly? How many deaths will it take before the council design groups make the changes?

Totally agree with you, seen lots of crashes as a result of pedestrians running out without looking and running off....no1 is against the crossing just move them back from the roundabout....how some1 hasnt been killed or mamed yet beggers belief...

Also can some1 tell me how the hell a truck is meant to fit between the end of the roundabout and the pedestrian crossing my van barely fits? Its hard enough for a truck to make it across the road in the first place whoever designed the road should be made explain why its the way it is as all over Europe there removing lites and changing these bad designs yet we are putting them in.....is it simply another way of keeping their pals in contracts.???