Help deciding on a bike

cojomo2

Since I've now passed my bike test, I am thinking of changing to a sport bike. Currently have a lovely z750, I really love it but at the same time want to try something else.

I was originally thinking r6/gsxr600/zx6r etc, but my mate was asking my opinion on a daytona675r which I hadn't really thought about before, and it looks lovely and has got great reviews. I'm not looking at any 1000cc sports bikes as I just wouldn't trust myself on one.

At the same time I also like the look the ktm's .. the 690 superduke and also the 990.

This is all just based on looks, haven't got the chance to ride any ktm or sports bikes and probably won't.

I'm basically looking for something that will put a smile on my face.

Anyone here owned any of the bikes I mentioned, what are they like to live with?

Eight Ball

Fazer 1000 or the newer shape FZ1. I had a 2008 FZ1 as my last bike regret selling it more than any other bike I have owned. Don't get me wrong I love my Ducati but the Yamaha did everything brilliantly.

Wonda-Boy

Have a look at the Street Triple too....great bike by all accounts. What about a GSXR750, if I was getting a sportsbike thats what I would have. That or the 675R, no harm taking a spin up to Antrim to Phillip McCallens very nice shop and pleasure to deal with and you can test ride any bike no probs.

AgileMyth

I recently had a KTM 990 Adventure for about a month. Most fun I've ever had on a bike.

Just throwing it out there.

cojomo2

Yep heard great things about the street triple but want to try something very different from what I have. I really like the look of the r6 ..as sports bikes go..is it one of the more uncomfortable ones? My upper back isn't great but most of my time on bikes are short spins and commuting . I'm guessing all the 600 sports bikes inc the 675r are about as comfortable as each other? I had an aprillia rs125 when I was younger and don't remember any comfort issues..

Yep I'm still open to a KTM but think the superduke looks best...am leaning more towards a sports bike tho ..don't know what it is about them !

RosieJoe

What about a gsxr 750?

cojomo2

RosieJoe wrote: »

What about a gsxr 750?

Yes I'd be certainly open to one of them if I could fid a nice example.

It seems hard to find a nice 600 but there are a few 1000cc sport bikes around..I'm thinking if I saw a good deal on a clean 1000 should I think about it? I'd regard myself as a novice and I'd just be worried I'd kill myself, but is a 1000 going to be much more dangerous than a 600?

Wossack

I reckon theres a certain sense of in 'for a penny' with sports bikes tbh. Probably slightly more likely to loop yerself on a 1000cc vs a 600, but danger is certainly there with both. Could be argued that you might be more careful on a 1000cc knowing that its is a caged animal but ymmv..

Ive a street triple and a zx6 (636), and sorta miss the torque on the zx in and around town. I can launch the Street alot easier at traffic lights (though that could just be me). Initially I was a bit underwhelmed by the ninja - thinking, geez, this yoke is a bit gutless (compared to the street, which pulls from like 0 rpm). But eh, all hell sorta breaks loose ~10k rpm, but its something you dont really hit on your morning commute - me at least

fatbast

cojomo2 wrote: »

Yes I'd be certainly open to one of them if I could fid a nice example.

It seems hard to find a nice 600 but there are a few 1000cc sport bikes around..I'm thinking if I saw a good deal on a clean 1000 should I think about it? I'd regard myself as a novice and I'd just be worried I'd kill myself, but is a 1000 going to be much more dangerous than a 600?

i am seling this honda fireblade 954 model which is more like a 600 physically, and not as mental as some of the 1000s, good alternative to a gsxr750, and the finish is good on these. only 13500 miles......bike is very clean. full ad on adverts.ie

RosieJoe

cojomo2 wrote: »

Yes I'd be certainly open to one of them if I could fid a nice example.

It seems hard to find a nice 600 but there are a few 1000cc sport bikes around..I'm thinking if I saw a good deal on a clean 1000 should I think about it? I'd regard myself as a novice and I'd just be worried I'd kill myself, but is a 1000 going to be much more dangerous than a 600?

Try up north for a 750. All reviews say it has the lightness of the 600 and the pull of a 1000 making it the best of both worlds. It'd be one I'd go for if I could.

Wonda-Boy

GSXR750 all the way if you want the best of both worlds. So many lovely examples around too, black and gold being my favourite.

Wossack

fatbast wrote: »

i am seling this honda fireblade 954 model which is more like a 600 physically, and not as mental as some of the 1000s, good alternative to a gsxr750, and the finish is good on these. only 13500 miles......bike is very clean. full ad on adverts.ie

crackin bike as usual fatbast - that'd be certainly one to consider. The 954 is very highly regarded, pretty comfy too I hear

galwaytt

fatbast wrote: »

i am seling this honda fireblade 954 model which is more like a 600 physically, and not as mental as some of the 1000s, good alternative to a gsxr750, and the finish is good on these. only 13500 miles......bike is very clean. full ad on adverts.ie

I may ride a Harley, but that FB is gorgeous

Kenz

Cojomo2 - I know, I know... it's a boring stupid sensible question to ask, but how old are you... and how many no claims do you have? Have you checked with your insurance company to get an idea of what you'll be paying for insurance on a "sports" type bike? It used to be a big jump in money the last time I checked when you were going from a street type bike to a sports type machine. You wouldn't want to get your hopes/dreams up and then have the nasty insurance company smash them (been there, done that, gsxr6, sad story, she could have been mine, etc). :O(

hunter23

Bmw s1000rr....its a dream....not for the faint hearted though.....i have come up through the ranks on all sizes....my guess would be a gsxr 750...or a r6....
just my thoughts....

Wonda-Boy

hunter23 wrote: »

Bmw s1000rr....its a dream.......

With more buttons than Cadburys......:pac::pac::pac::pac:

hunter23

ahhh.....wouldnt worry about any buttons.....she in race mode all the time.....just concentrated on the road ahead

cojomo2

Kenz wrote: »

Cojomo2 - I know, I know... it's a boring stupid sensible question to ask, but how old are you... and how many no claims do you have? Have you checked with your insurance company to get an idea of what you'll be paying for insurance on a "sports" type bike? It used to be a big jump in money the last time I checked when you were going from a street type bike to a sports type machine. You wouldn't want to get your hopes/dreams up and then have the nasty insurance company smash them (been there, done that, gsxr6, sad story, she could have been mine, etc). :O(

Hi, yep I've checked i out, not much difference to what I'm paying on the z at the moment as I have recently passed my test. I have zero ncb now - I had 3 yrs from 125cc bikes when I was a kid but that is no longer taken into account as it's been over 3 years.

@hunter,yeah I absolutely love the look of the r6 but from what I have read it's a bit useless for street use/commuting? The gsxr 750 is nice too, just wondering if it would be more sensible to go for a gsxr600 first? I really don't have a clue- the only sports bike I've ridden was over 10 yrs ago, an rs125! I have by no means grown out of my current z750, I am still very much a novice and have a lot to still learn, but have always had a soft spot for a proper sports bike, and since I just passed my test, now is the first time I can get insured on one so I'm itching to change.

hunter23

hi cojomo2
its a hard one to call..the gsxr 600 is also nice....never had one...but did get a few spins....most of these sports bikes are hard on the wrists and get very hot in around town....my advice if you can....try a get a spin on one before you commit....as mentioned earlier a fazer 1000 could be an option? i use an XJR in around town, its easy to drive etc. to bring the sports bike in on a regular basis wouldn't be my preferred option...as its 1000 its hard to hold back on it....i hope i can shed some light on this or i probably have confused you more...:)

gunning84

If your thinking 600 try get a spin on a cbr600rr, their a cracking bike in my opinion. I have a 08 one for the last few years and it never missed a beat. I have it for sale but wouldn't mind keeping it as a second bike either, hard to let it go!

Wonda-Boy

Maybe look into a sports tourer? They are every bit as fast as a sports bike with comfort and practicality thrown in too. Seating position is more or less the same depending on the bike.....Blu30rion off here got a savage Honda Blackbird for very little money and its spotless goes like Gary Glitter in Thailand too!

If its a 2nd bike you are getting then go for a pure hooligan ride....if its an everyday bike then think with the head not with the heart.

cojomo2

opinions on this one?
http://www.donedeal.ie/motorbikes-for-sale/suzuki-gsxr-750-k7-mint/5779837

whats the craic with the bazzaz fuel injector thing, would this make insurance more expensive, and does it mean the bike has more likely seen more track use?
Cheers

Wossack

exhaust + bazazz would make insurance more alright (performance mods)

bazazz dont make more likely to be tracked any more then a powercommander would really imo. Lack of mirrors on the other hand... Lack of license plate would make me think its not on an irish bike either, so keep in mind. Be a bit of work de-stickering too make sure they're not hiding anything..

Wossack

oh, and its just the bazzaz fuel module, no automapper, quickshifter or traction control. Not taking away from it, but when people rave about bazzaz stuff, its usually the complete works kit they're reviewing (1000e++)

cojomo2

Cheers ..can't believe I didn't notice the lack of mirrors!

Theres one more here:
http://for the he first time ww.donedeal.ie/motorbikes-for-sale/gsxr-750-2007-for-sale/5575238

Does 5000 km over nearly 7 years seem suspicious or am I just over thinking things !?

Another thing..if I buy a brand new bike now, don't register it as it will be a track only bike, and then in 3 yrs time decide to convert it to a road bike and register it for the first time , will it get a 131 reg or a 161 reg?

Wossack

5k over 7yrs is very low alright, but could be a genuine reason for it (weekend only bike, or only used on track, or impulse buy and had a scare etc). Be unusual to spoof such a low mileage too, as the rest of the bike would give away it having more - as you say, you're already suspicious at it being that low. Be expecting shiny shiny downpipes, original tyres (check dates on em), perfect bolts and fixings through out etc etc

Dunno about your other query, but I'd imagine a 131/132 reg (as date of purchase would be easily found). Also a track only bike will have easily discernible features that would betray its track origins - valuing it alot less then a road only 131/132.

cojomo2

Had a look at a few gsxrs over the weekend. I saw a 2011 reg gsxr1000, looked pristine but noticed it was actually a k7 model from around 2008. Very low miles also. Not sure what to make of it..

Also saw a couple of low miles 600 gsxrs, very nice.. but am still confused as to whether I should go for the 600/750/1000. Im thinking the 750 but have yet to see a nice one.. I'm thinking the 600 wouldn't me much of an upgrade powerwise from my z750 and that I am too much of a novice for the 1000...although I have read that the 1000 is the best choice if the bike will be a full time road bike...confused!