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haha It shouldn't be that difficult. Just way up the pros vs the cons
I'm just bored of the place really... And still doing a job I would never have done at home.... Maybe if I was fresh out of college... Plus the pay isnt great.. (but by Toronto standards its probably not that bad)
I have a decent job waiting at home for me, so it feels like the right thing to do.0 -
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sashafierce wrote: »This post has been deleted.
Another one here going home once the visa expires
Living downtown is great but I can see it as being ultimately unsustainable - the time will come when a 1-bed apartment just won't cut it any more. Then it's case of moving further out into the outskirts and commuting in and I'd rather do that back home - I can't stomach the thought of living amongst the identical strip malls.
I also accepted a step down career wise just to work here (Toronto) which was fine for a while but it pisses me off to know I can do better, have more responsibility and earn more back in Dublin.
I'll miss the real summers, beer selection, feeling of safety on the streets and local sports teams but they're not enough to keep me here.0 -
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Well I reckon you should only apply for PR if you intend to R P - seems the process can take a long time, and it's not like citizenship in that you can come and go from Canada as you please once you have it.
Best thing to do is probably flip a coin - heads you stay, tails you leave. If it turns up heads and your heart sinks a little at the thought then you know how you really feel. It's a big decision and loss aversion looms large in the mind when trying to tease it out rationally. 0 -
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wittyusername wrote: »Well I reckon you should only apply for PR if you intend to R P - seems the process can take a long time, and it's not like citizenship in that you can come and go from Canada as you please once you have it.
Best thing to do is probably flip a coin - heads you stay, tails you leave. If it turns up heads and your heart sinks a little at the thought then you know how you really feel. It's a big decision and loss aversion looms large in the mind when trying to tease it out rationally.
You only need to be in Canada 2 years in 5 to maintain the PR. It might be worth getting it if you can, just to have a fallback.0 -
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Hey hope things have gotten better for ya since you last posted here!
Was wondering what you had to do to get the Canadian CA designation? Did you do some sort of reciprocity exam over there or did you do it before you left? Do you have to pay the Institute fees here and then another fee for the Canadian Institute? Pretty much every finance job ad I've seen has mentioned having a CA designation is preferable.
Hey,
Sorry was away for a week there and was on a no internet kick!
Nope things haven't gotten any better. I hit the 150 jobs applied for in 2014 mark at the start of August, so I've decided that come June when my visa expires - first plane home! I'll stick out this job until then to 'try' to make back what it cost me to come here.
Anyways on the CA designation...
http://www.cpaontario.ca/Admissions/InternationallyTrainedAccountants/ReciprocalMembershipBody/1010page13643.aspx
This is the link, basically you become a Reciprocal (I still can't pronounce the word!!) Member. So you have a form to fill in, then you need to contact CAI as they need to send a letter of good standing and a certified copy of your results directly to CPA Ontario. They will not accept it if it comes through you.
I think there is an assessment fee at this point, $282.50. Then once they admit you to membership you have to pay a joining fee of $762.75. You then also have to pay your full year's membership fees of $1084.50.
Once you're admitted to membership you have a choice of either sitting an exam or doing an online course to meet the eligibility criteria. I've opted for the course so I can't really speak to the exam. I know you have to do the exam if you want to work in 'public practice' as they call it here, basically in an Accounting firm.
If you go the course route they give you 2 years from your date of acceptance to complete the course. And as with everything else here, the course is $1100. So I haven't done the course yet, partly because the cost of this whole exercise annoys me and partly because I have the CPD I need this year, so no point in doing it until next year. Also, with going home for sure next year, I'm kinda wondering what would happen if I don't do it!! haha!
Ongoing the annual fee is $1084.50 payable around June each year. Be careful when you are getting a job it does seem to be common here that the employer doesn't pay these fees. You do get a tax deduction for them when doing your taxes though if you pay them yourself! But don't just assume that they will be paid, probably best to ask at the negotiation stage if you are offered a job.
So in terms of CAI, when my renewal came up this year, they gave me a working abroad rate of E100. But I had to get a letter of good standing from CPA Ontario sent to them and I think I had to send my contract to confirm my employment here.
I started the process with CPA, Ontario about 2 months I think before I left Ireland, it takes a wee while for them to process, 8 weeks I think. Try to plan it though so that you're in Canada before you get accepted. That way you can claim the $700 odd joining fee against your income tax return. You can only claim it if it's paid after you're resident in Canada. I guess if you waited until getting here to apply you might be able to claim the $300 application fee on your taxes. I didn't so I couldn't claim it, but for the amount of tax you'd save on it I figured it was better to be applying for jobs saying that my application was in!
If you have any other questions just let me know! 0 -
Hey,
Sorry was away for a week there and was on a no internet kick!
Nope things haven't gotten any better. I hit the 150 jobs applied for in 2014 mark at the start of August, so I've decided that come June when my visa expires - first plane home! I'll stick out this job until then to 'try' to make back what it cost me to come here.
Anyways on the CA designation...
http://www.cpaontario.ca/Admissions/InternationallyTrainedAccountants/ReciprocalMembershipBody/1010page13643.aspx
This is the link, basically you become a Reciprocal (I still can't pronounce the word!!) Member. So you have a form to fill in, then you need to contact CAI as they need to send a letter of good standing and a certified copy of your results directly to CPA Ontario. They will not accept it if it comes through you.
I think there is an assessment fee at this point, $282.50. Then once they admit you to membership you have to pay a joining fee of $762.75. You then also have to pay your full year's membership fees of $1084.50.
Once you're admitted to membership you have a choice of either sitting an exam or doing an online course to meet the eligibility criteria. I've opted for the course so I can't really speak to the exam. I know you have to do the exam if you want to work in 'public practice' as they call it here, basically in an Accounting firm.
If you go the course route they give you 2 years from your date of acceptance to complete the course. And as with everything else here, the course is $1100. So I haven't done the course yet, partly because the cost of this whole exercise annoys me and partly because I have the CPD I need this year, so no point in doing it until next year. Also, with going home for sure next year, I'm kinda wondering what would happen if I don't do it!! haha!
Ongoing the annual fee is $1084.50 payable around June each year. Be careful when you are getting a job it does seem to be common here that the employer doesn't pay these fees. You do get a tax deduction for them when doing your taxes though if you pay them yourself! But don't just assume that they will be paid, probably best to ask at the negotiation stage if you are offered a job.
So in terms of CAI, when my renewal came up this year, they gave me a working abroad rate of E100. But I had to get a letter of good standing from CPA Ontario sent to them and I think I had to send my contract to confirm my employment here.
I started the process with CPA, Ontario about 2 months I think before I left Ireland, it takes a wee while for them to process, 8 weeks I think. Try to plan it though so that you're in Canada before you get accepted. That way you can claim the $700 odd joining fee against your income tax return. You can only claim it if it's paid after you're resident in Canada. I guess if you waited until getting here to apply you might be able to claim the $300 application fee on your taxes. I didn't so I couldn't claim it, but for the amount of tax you'd save on it I figured it was better to be applying for jobs saying that my application was in!
If you have any other questions just let me know!
Cheers for the reply.
With your experience, you will walk into a job back home so at least you have that. Plenty of stories for the water cooler too from your time in Canada!
Just sat the FAEs so I'll be about a month in Canada when the results come out. Do you still get to use the Canadian designation even if you haven't completed the course yet? Those fees are quite steep but would be manageable as long as you had the CA for getting a job in the first place.
Is the course just a couple of lectures on Canadian tax and law, sort of like a CPD day or is there also an exam at the end? With that assessment fee of $282.50, do you have to do an actual assessment or is that just them confirming with CAI? Wondering should I bring some notes over if an exam is needed.
I've served my time in practice so the other option doesn't appeal to me at this stage. From what I read, it looks like it you need it for signing off on accounts which I wouldn't be able to do anyway without 2 years post qualification experience.0 -
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Yeah it kills me too, I'm 10/10 people guessing Scottish not Irish, which is fine, it's when they go 'same thing' I tend to see red!!
I used to get a bit of this in work too. Once I started replying with "Could you repeat that? It's a bit hard to make out through your American accent" they soon stopped 0 -
wittyusername wrote: »I used to get a bit of this in work too. Once I started replying with "Could you repeat that? It's a bit hard to make out through your American accent" they soon stopped
I must start doing that!! Cheers!!0 -
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