Battlefield 4 Chat

The Red

I have to confess I wasnt into the battlefield series before the end of BF3 and start of BF4 so BFBC2 is totally new to me. Its a bit clunkier to play and a LOT harder for me but amazing craic.

I also noticed I seem to be much better at BF3 than 4 ... (still ****e at both though)


Is it because of the huge open maps I wonder?

5uspect

The maps in 4 are mostly ****e. They have little focus so you always die cheaply because people are randomly popping out from all directions.
There is rarely any coherence to games.

On the other hand BC2 had some great maps where pitched battles could ebb and flow over well designed choke points.

So instead of PTFO in 4 I die all the time and everyone else camps.

BordorFox

5uspect wrote: »

The maps in 4 are mostly ****e. They have little focus so you always die cheaply because people are randomly popping out from all directions.
There is rarely any coherence to games.

On the other hand BC2 had some great maps where pitched battles could ebb and flow over well designed choke points.

So instead of PTFO in 4 I die all the time and everyone else camps.

Still amazes me to this day why they brought the same 4 maps onto next gen instead of just porting the maps from bf3, the current dlc maps are nothing to cry home about but the maps in bf3 were amazing, we had 2 games with oman, caspian etc, they should have brought over sienne crossing, bazaar etc, much more fun if you ask me.

5uspect

There's nothing wrong with trying to build new maps, otherwise we'd all call it BF3.5. But they just seem to have forgotten what a good map is.

The new fancy graphics allow for all sort of light related additions to that, but they don't use it. There are no more pitched battles across streets or over flags. It simply isn't fun getting killed by some random guy back behind you whenever you attack a group when PTFO.

I honestly don't think I've even seen most of the levolutions. They happen and I'm too busy being frustrated with the game to take notice. I seem to have had particular trouble with it so maybe it's just me.

MajesticDonkey

This new SWAT game confirms the BF series is heading in the COD direction. SWAT means no large maps, you would think.

Stone Deaf 4evr

Was tempted to buy wolfenstien this weekend,but said I'd start the bf4 campaign again and hope my save didn't get deleted.


I'm actually really enjoying it. Bar the fact that Irish may be the worst soldier ever.

gimli2112

Stone Deaf 4evr wrote: »

Was tempted to buy wolfenstien this weekend,but said I'd start the bf4 campaign again and hope my save didn't get deleted.


I'm actually really enjoying it. Bar the fact that Irish may be the worst soldier ever.

buy wolfenstein
BF4 campaign is awesome though
save to usb

5uspect

gimli2112 wrote: »

BF4 campaign is awesome though

lol, it's probably the worst thing ever.

glued

Where is the cheapest place to pick this up at the moment in store?

Riesen_Meal

glued wrote: »

Where is the cheapest place to pick this up at the moment in store?

Adverts tbh

Glico Man

I was wondering how long it would take EA to do Something like this. I'm genuinely surprised it actually took this long. Greedy bastards

The Red

Isnt it unbelievable? I cant understand how they want to try to piss off their own fans... who the hell thought this would be a good idea?? a big fat EA exec with sweat beads on his neck, thats fu**in who.

hallo dare

can't believe the pr1cks followed through with this. There was rumours of this months ago but it died off very quick.

People are worse if they actually go and buy these.

BordorFox

Battlefield Hardline Unveiling
June 9th 12:00pm PDT
Watch Online at www.ea.com/e3

DeWinterZero

From the CTE details about the fixes for the retail game. Due for release soon. Also lists some fixes that they might release to retail sometime in the future.

PATCH – NEXT RELEASE
The next release in the retail game will include a bulk of the changes and fixes made on the CTE. We think this collection of changes to the game, which were tested through the CTE is significant enough to warrant its own release as early as possible.

INCLUDED FEATURES
The upcoming release will contain the following features and fixes (PC, see coming patch notes for detailed list per platform):

• Fix for explosion packs not being shootable sometimes
• Fix for reducing damage mismatch between client/server
• Fix for third person player orientation mismatch
• Character collision improvements
• Improvements for client side packet loss
• Various server performance improvements
• High Frequency Bubble
  Server to client “tickrate” improvements for damage, position, rotation, projectiles and stance (infantry/vehicle)
• High Frequency Bubble: Added client option to set frequency of server to client update rate (OFF/LOW/MED/HIGH, default: OFF)
• High Frequency Bubble: Added server kill switches to disable feature for rest of round based on low server performance
• Dampened explosive camera shake
• Reduced FrameHistoryTime by 33% (less time for a client to inflict damage to enemy during packet loss)
• Various server side network improvements and fixes

FUTURE FEATURES
The following fixes and improvements did not make this release – and will continue to be tested on the CTE for upcoming releases.
Not all fixes and improvements are guaranteed a release however – some will not meet our quality demands or are simply tests for the CTE environment.

• Possible fix for PC chat delay (unconfirmed)
• Hainan Resort: Under-terrain exploit fix
• Deathshield fix (already live, CTE integration)
• Obliteration Competitive mode
• Operation Metro 2014 exploit fix (partial)
• PC-Client stability improvement
• High Altitude Jet fix (Released separately very soon)
• Changed the way FOV slider option works – the UI now correctly displays vertical FOV
• Improved the Uniform Soldier aiming based on CTE player feedback
• Added Jet 3P rear view camera
• Implemented FOV slider for vehicle 3P chase camera (option)
• Visual fix for weapon sticking out of ragdoll and rotating weirdly
• Fix for Hardcore killcard not showing up properly

jumbobreakfast

High frequency bubble - that type of terminology is stolen from DayZ standalone!

These are badly needed improvements all the same. 5v5 obliteration is shaping up to be good fun too.

eyeball kid

The Red wrote: »

^ this. Exactly this. Escept BF3 and BFBC2.. I still like to run them every so often.

Is there many still playing the older BF's? I'm only new to the series and have BF4. Would it be worth picking up BF3 for the PS3?

The Red

Oh god yes... BF3 should be in EVERY collection. Its still better than BF4 to me and im new to the series too.

I can understand all the BF vets that are nostalgic to the oldies but thats not just the case with BFBC2 and BF3. They (especially BF3.. BFBC2 can feel the slightest bit clunkier) are really really good. I just feel guilty playing BF3 when BF4 is out but damn, it is so much more fun to play...

BordorFox

eyeball kid wrote: »

Is there many still playing the older BF's? I'm only new to the series and have BF4. Would it be worth picking up BF3 for the PS3?

As a battlefield veteran myself, it is nostalgic on most look backs, this for example..

DeWinterZero

Patch notes for todays 230mb patch.

June 03 PC Game Update Notes:
- Improved/reduced explosion induced camera shake
- Character collision improvements
- Fix to reduce object damage mismatch between client/server.
- Fix explosion packs not being able to be shot sometimes
- Improvements for client side packet loss
- Client crash fixes
- AMD Mantle multi-GPU improvements
- Carrier Assault game mode reports bug fix
- High Frequency Network update
-Added High frequency “bubble” updating player movement, stance, rotation, damage and projectiles at a separate rate on foot and in vehicles
-Added option to control client side update rate setting

The Red

Finally...

Noxin

Guess I'll reinstall just to test this

The Red

Yeah the CTE works well.. most of the time.

Felt like I really wanted to play CTE more than main game but still wanted to rank up my player more, so played Main anyway... this will be great now.

hallo dare

Anyone confirm if this patch is also out for ps4 today?

DeWinterZero

hallo dare wrote: »

Anyone confirm if this patch is also out for ps4 today?

No patch notes for PS4 or Xbone so its probably not out for the next gens this week.
There are notes for the PS3 & Xbox360. A few differences from the pc patch.

http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/forum/view/2955064768683845646/

June 03 PS3 Game Update Details:
- Improved/reduced explosion induced camera shake
- Rental server bug fixes
- Character collision improvements
- Reduced object damage mismatch between client/server.
- Fix for explosion pack not being able to be shot sometimes
- Improvements for client side packet loss
- Added controller option to swap functionality of the bumper and trigger buttons
- Carrier - Invisible walls stopping bullets fix


June 03 Xbox 360 Game Update Notes
- Improved/reduced explosion induced camera shake
- Rent A Server bug fixes
- Character collision improvements
- Reduced object damage mismatch between client/server
- Fix for explosion pack not being able to be shot sometimes
- Improvements for client side packet loss
- Added controller option to swap functionality of the bumper and trigger buttons
- Physics optimization for Naval Strike Wave Breaker rocks
- Carrier: fix for invisible walls stopping bullets
- Fix for issue where clients with low bandwidth would not be able to enter squad menu

Noxin

Logged in to test new patch. Had previously uninstalled everything to do with BF4.

So connected to my first game. Killed a few. Died a bit. Jumped into a heli. Game crashes to black screen and PC freezes.

Yup... game uninstalled again, and this time it's for good. Suck my balls battlefield.

The Freeman

Much much smoother. This is the game in was hoping for.how do ye guys find the update?

Riesen_Meal

Noxin wrote: »

Logged in to test new patch. Had previously uninstalled everything to do with BF4.

So connected to my first game. Killed a few. Died a bit. Jumped into a heli. Game crashes to black screen and PC freezes.

Yup... game uninstalled again, and this time it's for good. Suck my balls battlefield.

Silly question but -

Did you enable it from the options menu of the game yeah?

I see a lot of PC heads on Reddit saying its playing amazingly well now, could your issue be a dodgy driver or HW issue?

jonski

Played a lot better for me today and tonight , I was having trouble with close up fire fights but it seems gone now . I know there are new settings in the options page but I didn't have to change anything .

Riesen_Meal

jonski wrote: »

Played a lot better for me today and tonight , I was having trouble with close up fire fights but it seems gone now . I know there are new settings in the options page but I didn't have to change anything .

Think the smoothing is off by default and you have to enable the 30hz by :

PC players having just got this new awesome patch. It doesn't remove the suck from BF4 by default... the option that does so, High Frequency Network Update under the Gameplay tab, is set to Off by default. Set this to High to remove terrible infantry gameplay and enable fun times.

Noxin

Fieldog wrote: »

Silly question but -

Did you enable it from the options menu of the game yeah?

I see a lot of PC heads on Reddit saying its playing amazingly well now, could your issue be a dodgy driver or HW issue?

Yea I had the updates turned on. Had network originally set to high. I felt I could kill much better but the game was also stuttering or something. Kinda hard to describe. I might try a full gfx driver reinstall and give it another shot over the weekend. Never had this problem until a few patches ago though.

hallo dare

Almost a 1.5GB update for BF4 on ps4 as of now.

Spear

hallo dare wrote: »

Almost a 1.5GB update for BF4 on ps4 as of now.

Sounds like the next expansion content. It's too big for the recent patch.

hallo dare

Spear wrote: »

Sounds like the next expansion content. It's too big for the recent patch.

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/battlefield-4-player-testing-results-in-new-update-improving-netcode/1100-6420065/

miju

"high frequency bubbles"????

Anyone who's played in test environment can say how this will affect sniping, long range engagement with jets, chippers , tanks and AAs etc.

Sounds like another layer of complication rather than simplification but would be nice if it actually worked.

The Red

Apparently the bubbles are pretty big and in some cases cover most of a map. Cant remember where I read that though... sorry.

DeWinterZero

The CTE is making changes to Rush. The changes aren't live yet. CTE patches are usually out over the weekend.

As promised, we will be giving the gamemode Rush some love this initiative!
The first pair of maps up for testing is Siege of Shanghai and Zavod 311.

WHY CHANGE RUSH?
We’ve heard your feedback, we’ve checked our telemetry, we’ve watched countless hours of streamed gameplay and of course played Rush in the live environment ourselves. We decided on this initiative because we felt we could increase the quality of the Rush experience in the BF4 base game maps by small means such as tweaking vehicle setup or MCOM placement. With CTE up and running, we have a great opportunity to get some player feedback on some changes we’ve playtested internally and see if it’s something we want to push live.
The main focus of the changes has been to increase the balance and flow of Rush rounds. Often this means making it easier for the attackers to tackle certain MCOMs that were frustrating. Worst offenders were maps where it’s rare to see attackers progress past the first base.
Although there is no accounting for bad team mates, I hope you’ll find the most difficult bases less frustrating than before.
PTxO
-Tompen

WHAT ARE WE TESTING?
We’d like to get your feedback on the changes to the gamemode in general, and to these two maps in particular. Please direct your feedback to the appropriate forum for each map!

GENERAL RUSH CHANGES
These are the general Rush changes:

• Removed Commander by default in Rush
• Reduced radar sweep range around attacker bases
• Round start timer addition (we are investigating final solution, not active in this release)
• Made sure final attacker tickets are not reset after the last base explodes

SIEGE OF SHANGHAI CHANGES

• Removed all air vehicles to make this a land strike in Rush.
• Cut the power to all the elevators in the map.
• Tweaked MCOM positions of all bases. Base #2 was especially problematic for attackers if they didn’t have enough of a momentum.
• Tweaked vehicle setup.
• Slightly tweaked certain combat areas, spawns
• Added a few cover pieces to go with the updated MCOM positioning.

ZAVOD 311 CHANGES

• Wanted to make this map easier for attackers particularly on bases 1 and 4.
• Major rebalance on vehicle balance in favor of attackers. For example: transport helicopter given to attackers from base 2 and onwards. This is especially helpful on the “impossible last base”.
• Tweaks on MCOM positions and minor changes to elements such as combat areas, spawns etc.
• Added a few pieces of additional cover.
• Reduced terrain crater depth.

paul_booth_fan

DeWinterZero wrote: »

The CTE is making changes to Rush. The changes aren't live yet. CTE patches are usually out over the weekend.

This is genuinely great news and really long overdue. Sadly, its very typical of the treatment this game has received since release. Considering it's been a staple mode of Battlefield for years, it was arguably the worst thought out and implemented in this version. It'll come as too little, too late for a lot of players unfortunately. I love Rush(when it actually works like it should) but the vehicle balance is nothing short of atrocious on some of the maps.
As silly as it is having a test environment 7 months AFTER the game has been released, if it actually helps and improves the core game then at least it's a step forward.

TheGoldenAges

Glad to see the Zavod base 4 MCOM is getting moved. What an absolute ludicrous place to put it half way up a aerial tower with only one way up. It's not like the attackers are given air vehicles to even drop on top of it. I don't think I've ever won an attacking round of Zavod.

gimli2112

TheGoldenAges wrote: »

Glad to see the Zavod base 4 MCOM is getting moved. What an absolute ludicrous place to put it half way up a aerial tower with only one way up. It's not like the attackers are given air vehicles to even drop on top of it. I don't think I've ever won an attacking round of Zavod.

It's the same in Defuse. You almost can't lose when attacking A. Sometimes you plant at B for the easy win 'cos there's just no point. They must have been pretty wasted when laying out the MCOMs that afternoon.

DeWinterZero

TheGoldenAges wrote: »

Glad to see the Zavod base 4 MCOM is getting moved. What an absolute ludicrous place to put it half way up a aerial tower with only one way up. It's not like the attackers are given air vehicles to even drop on top of it. I don't think I've ever won an attacking round of Zavod.

An airbursting UCAV flow through the window of the tower tends to clear the room of defenders . But even then you still have to hope your team can get up the stairs. We'll see whether the changes make it no fun for the defenders or make it balanced.

mozattack

Love these changes to Rush... yippie

dreamers75

An ability to move the bases manually would have been nicer.

GottaGetGatt

dreamers75 wrote: »

An ability to move the bases manually would have been nicer.

Yeah that's the one thing the game is missing.the ability to customise where the mcoms are located and could be so much fun,there's parts of maps that would just be epic in a infantry only rush.

The paddy fields around the back D flag on dragons teeth come to mind.Dice really dropped the ball since BC2 in making the maps suit Rush

the_syco

For anyone who has this, and wants a mate to play, http://www.greenmangaming.com/ea-eu-deals/ are doing a deal for €29.99 atm.

paul_booth_fan

Video showing some of the changes to Rush for us console peasants who can't access the CTE........

MiskyBoyy

miju

Cool and all as easter eggs are id much rather prefer they spent their efforts on the game problems

Mad_Dave

To be fair to DICE LA, the amount of progress they've made in fixing the game since they took over is nothing short of amazing.

5uspect

miju wrote: »

Cool and all as easter eggs are id much rather prefer they spent their efforts on the game problems

In fairness something like this is probably pretty easy with their dev tools.