Hurler of the year?

redzerologhlen

So now that the Hurling championship is all wrapped up who do you think is worthy of the award lads. Im finding it very hard to call myself. Would have said Nash or Podge Collins up to yesterday but neither had a very good game.

Amprodude

Shane O Donnell after yesterday?

keeponhurling

Bugler or Kelly?

Fireball07

Collins or Kelly imo.

yomtea98

redzerologhlen wrote: »

So now that the Hurling championship is all wrapped up who do you think is worthy of the award lads. Im finding it very hard to call myself. Would have said Nash or Podge Collins up to yesterday but neither had a very good game.

Nash couldn't have done anything for 4 of the goals

basillarkin

Shane o Donnell could get an all star sure they gave joe canning one a few years back for one match v cork. He got 2.10 ,screwed john mulane out of one I think

redzerologhlen

Amprodude wrote: »

Shane O Donnell after yesterday?

Pushing it a small but id say amprodude

KevIRL

Tony Kelly a shoe in for Young Hurler of the year, could he pick up both awards?

redzerologhlen

yomtea98 wrote: »

Nash couldn't have done anything for 4 of the goals

He had set a very high standard for himself in fairness, I couldnt believe what was unfolding in front of me but they were almost impossible to stop.

Amprodude

redzerologhlen wrote: »

Pushing it a small but id say amprodude

Hes got to be a late inclusion. 3-3 in a final. Not a bad return at all for the youngster.

yomtea98

Conor Ryan possibly

marco_polo

Still think Collins will get the nod, he's really had an outstanding year and one quiet game shouldn't change that.

Shane O'Donnell is of course already a bona fida Clare lidgind but that what the man of the match award is there for.

redzerologhlen

Amprodude wrote: »

Hes got to be a late inclusion. 3-3 in a final. Not a bad return at all for the youngster.

Tis fairytale stuff alright!! For playmaking and grabbing the game by the balls I thought Conor Mcgrath really stood out. If Cork had one it would have been easy to pick wither Nash or Harnedy but I'm finding it a tuff call to be honest.

thinkstoomuch1

basillarkin wrote: »

Shane o Donnell could get an all star sure they gave joe canning one a few years back for one match v cork. He got 2.10 ,screwed john mulane out of one I think

Big difference between an all star and hurler of the year.


Kelly should get it.For hurler of the year,the word year is important to bear in mind,nt just one game but the season as a whole.


All ireland final should have bearing two.Bar the june game,kelly has been unreal.six from play in the drawn and replay,he should shade it ahead of collins.

Collins hadnt a great game but thats more the excellent murphy than a poor collins.The only man to hold him scorless all year ,and then he kept kelly quiet in june.But kelly got the better in the drawn game,but murphy still done okay,and got a point.


Cork were caught between a rock and a hard place , kelly or collins for murphy.

As both had to be marked.

Kelly was clares best forward over the two games,and with the amount of ball he hurled outside the points should get it.

Podge young hurler of the year.

Nash cant be blamed for the five goals bar one,and even at that its cause he has set hes standards so high,and makes saves others cnt dream of.


But clare won,i think hurler of the year should be a clare man.

BobSloane

KevIRL wrote: »

Tony Kelly a shoe in for Young Hurler of the year, could he pick up both awards?

He'll probably win it. Really think David McInertney should run him close though.
Nash will prob win hurler of the year. Bulger Clares best hope I'd say

@thinkstoomuch It would make little sense for Kelly to win hurler of the year and podge collins to win YHOTH

redzerologhlen

BobSloane wrote: »

He'll probably win it. Really think David McInertney should run him close though.
Nash will prob win hurler of the year. Bulger Clares best hope I'd say

@thinkstoomuch It would make little sense for Kelly to win hurler of the year and podge collins to win YHOTH

HOTY nearly always comes from the winning team so I doubt Nash will get it.

BobSloane

redzerologhlen wrote: »

HOTY nearly always comes from the winning team so I doubt Nash will get it.

True but Waterford players have picked it up a few times I think. Tony Browne got it in 98 and they didn't even make the AI final or win munster. Normally I'd agree with you but I think this year could be an exception. Clare haven't really had a standout player and Nash had a weirdly memorable year - scoring a lot and only conceding one goal (until yesterday obv!). Plus he's Tommy Quaids nephew which could swing a few votes his way somehow?!? Is there a market anywhere? Can't find one on PP.

Gerry91

Shane O'Donnell could definitely get an All Star

He scored two goals in the championship before yesterday by the way and started a few games

Tony Kelly would be my POTY and YPOTY

[-0-]

Collin Ryan for me.

angelfire9

Kelly for HOTY
Collins for YHOTY

Can't see them going anywhere else to be honest

Bench Press

Tony Kelly or Podge Collins

BobSloane

angelfire9 wrote: »

Kelly for HOTY
Collins for YHOTY

Can't see them going anywhere else to be honest

Why not Kelly for both then? How can he logically be HOTY but not YHOTH?

Amprodude

Amprodude wrote: »

Shane O Donnell after yesterday?

Savage performance from an unreal talent but i honest believe it would be ludicrous to give it to a lad based on 1 game. Bugler seemed to have a terrific year.

Gerry91

Deleted User wrote: »

Savage performance from an unreal talent but i honest believe it would be ludicrous to give it to a lad based on 1 game. Bugler seemed to have a terrific year.

I know you're saying POTY maybe ludicrous and it is IMO but an All Star certainly wouldnt be.

As I said he got two goals earlier in champ, one v Waterford, one v Wexford. He started both games as far as I know

5 goals in the championship, unreal return

randd1

Bugler for me.

Purely because he was the man who consistently kept the opposition at bay, dominated the high ball so much in games, and never mind how he was setting up so many attacks. Clare's best and most consistent players this year, I can't think of a game in which he actually played bad.

Ryan is also a good shout, but Bugler was more consistent.

One_More_Mile

randd1 wrote: »

Bugler for me.

Purely because he was the man who consistently kept the opposition at bay, dominated the high ball so much in games, and never mind how he was setting up so many attacks. Clare's best and most consistent players this year, I can't think of a game in which he actually played bad.

Ryan is also a good shout, but Bugler was more consistent.

Id give it to Tony Kelly, with paudge collins unluckey not to get it.
I'd give Bugler fist pumper of the year!

dartsfan

Pa Horgan was 11/10 before the first day, don't think he did enough from play in either game to warrant it

Cilldara11

Surprised Pat Horgan hasn't got a mention. He was consistently good (ignoring red card against Limerick).
Looking at Clare, can't see past Bugler or Kelly. Podge Collins having a quieter game yesterday, I think would swing it for Kelly if it were to come down to a debate between the two of them.

Cilldara11

dartsfan wrote: »

Pa Horgan was 11/10 before the first day, don't think he did enough from play in either game to warrant it

I think you may be right!
Although he got 9 points yesterday, 3 from play. A good day out for most forwards in an AIF.

One_More_Mile

Sunday Game team of the year was a joke- Only Paudge Collins & Paul browne for Limerick got a mention---best full back in the country is Ritchie McCarthy by a country mile

Limestone1

BobSloane wrote: »

True but Waterford players have picked it up a few times I think. Tony Browne got it in 98 and they didn't even make the AI final or win munster. Normally I'd agree with you but I think this year could be an exception. Clare haven't really had a standout player and Nash had a weirdly memorable year - scoring a lot and only conceding one goal (until yesterday obv!). Plus he's Tommy Quaids nephew which could swing a few votes his way somehow?!? Is there a market anywhere? Can't find one on PP.

Good point -and Dan won it in 07 despite being quiet in the semi but had a dream year before that with goals galore. So Pa Horgan/Nash and Tony Kelly/Podge from Cork and Clare. Team efforts all round and no dominant players so what about the other counties ?
Dublin winning a historic provincial title - Keaney or Paul Ryan ? Maybe Dotsy for the resilience
Richie McCarthy from Limerick - first Munster in nearly 20 years.
KK/Tipp/Galway/Waterford - no POTY nomination though KK did win the league.
Overall - I can't see a standout candidate so all of the names mentioned above wouldn't be a surprise nor would O Donnell or even bugler or Donnellan.....I think you might be right with Nash

TeddyTedson

Shane O Donnell would be getting the womens votes anyway. They were all drooling over him with he was giving his interview.

Mountainlad

Think Pat Donnellan will be close to getting it. Even though he wouldn't be my choice. Thought Bugler was poor enough yesterday.

thinkstoomuch1

Cilldara11 wrote: »

Surprised Pat Horgan hasn't got a mention. He was consistently good (ignoring red card against Limerick).
Looking at Clare, can't see past Bugler or Kelly. Podge Collins having a quieter game yesterday, I think would swing it for Kelly if it were to come down to a debate between the two of them.

In contention but not our best forward over the two games.Got five from play,but harnedy got one four from play ,two games,our most effective forward in that he was involved in 40 per cent of our scores in the drawn game,and again yest had 15 plays ,our most effective forward yesterday.

Harnedy would have have been not seen as a contender,i cnt c why horgan who was not our best guy in two games would get it.

Nash would deserve it,but it has got to be a clare man.

Kelly,as when the need was greatest got six points in the two games,and three of one of the best man markers the game has ever produced in murphy the last day.


Up to friday nash and horgan were the favourites but that changed id say.

Mergal

Tony Kelly 1/10 on Paddy power

Depp

yomtea98 wrote: »

Nash couldn't have done anything for 4 of the goals

yeah and his goal was an absolute cracker aswel

Amprodude

TeddyTedson wrote: »

Shane O Donnell would be getting the womens votes anyway. They were all drooling over him with he was giving his interview.

Fame is gas isn't it.

grenache

Donnellan and Bugler In particular had a great summer for Clare. But hard to see past Tony Kelly to be honest. He was everywhere in the semi, final & replay.

thinkstoomuch1

Mergal wrote: »

Tony Kelly 1/10 on Paddy power

Nailed on so collins young player of the year.could not argue with that.

buck65

BobSloane wrote: »

True but Waterford players have picked it up a few times I think. Tony Browne got it in 98 and they didn't even make the AI final or win munster. Normally I'd agree with you but I think this year could be an exception. Clare haven't really had a standout player and Nash had a weirdly memorable year - scoring a lot and only conceding one goal (until yesterday obv!). Plus he's Tommy Quaids nephew which could swing a few votes his way somehow?!? Is there a market anywhere? Can't find one on PP.

No , they've had half a dozen.

almostover

Seamie Harnedy was probably the most consistent player all year in the championship. Played out of his skin in both finals and was worth 3-4 points in nearly every other game. Takes a special player to play so well in a team who were outplayed in the 2 final. My vote for hurler of the year especially seeing as he has come from relative obscurity.

Other than yesterday when Brian Murphy held him quiet, Podge Collins was a livewire all year in the Clare attack. Should get YHOY.

My (biased) vote:

HOY: Seamus Harnedy
YHOY: Podge Collins

Keano

Bugler would get my vote but Tony Kelly will win it.

Gerry91

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

Nailed on so collins young player of the year.could not argue with that.

How could Kelly be HOTY and not YHOTY?

He's a year younger than Collins like

marco_polo

Gerry91 wrote: »

How could Kelly be HOTY and not YHOTY?

He's a year younger than Collins like

It would be pretty rare that a player would be in contention for both I suppose, and really giving the Young hurler of the year award to the winner of the main award would be rather pointless IMO. I'd imagine the voting committee will probably be of the same view.

angelfire9

BobSloane wrote: »

Clare haven't really had a standout player

Not sure what Clare team you've been watching?:eek:

Maybe it's hard to pick because we have had so many?
Kelly
Collins
Donnellan
O'Donnell
:rolleyes:

buck65

angelfire9 wrote: »

Not sure what Clare team you've been watching?:eek:

Maybe it's hard to pick because we have had so many?
Kelly
Collins
Donnellan
O'Donnell
:rolleyes:

Bugler, McInerney, 2 Ryans,

premierstone

angelfire9 wrote: »

Not sure what Clare team you've been watching?:eek:

Maybe it's hard to pick because we have had so many?
Kelly
Collins
Donnellan
O'Donnell
:rolleyes:

buck65 wrote: »

Bugler, McInerney, 2 Ryans,

So is it the term 'standout' that ye don't quite grasp or are ye actually agreeing with Bob

buck65

No just 6 or 7 standout hurlers on the Clare team. Cork have 3 or 4. Limerick the same Dublin the same.

thinkstoomuch1

BobSloane wrote: »

He'll probably win it. Really think David McInertney should run him close though.
Nash will prob win hurler of the year. Bulger Clares best hope I'd say

@thinkstoomuch It would make little sense for Kelly to win hurler of the year and podge collins to win YHOTH

It would make perfect sense.Both very close to the main award,but kelly over shadowing him in the two games,with six from play.

Collins has been so majestic in the year,u21 as well,and the magnificent point the first day must win an award.

elguapo

Both Jamesie O'Connor and Daithi Reagan on Off the Ball last night picked Bugler.

premierstone

buck65 wrote: »

No just 6 or 7 standout hurlers on the Clare team. Cork have 3 or 4. Limerick the same Dublin the same.

Well then by their very nature they are not standout - by your logic there were 19 standout players and thats before KK, Galway, Tipp, Wexford, Waterford etc are taken in to account.